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Comment Archives: stories: News & Opinion: Serraglio

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@genesimmons
I do share your concern and we've addressed it: At address below you will find more than 30 articles written by AE911Truth Petitioners and associates. Some are self-published and some are peer-reviewed journal articles (contrary to your claim). In the spirit of the scientific method, all are strongly encouraged perform their own experiments and analyses and publish their own results just like these working engineers and scientists have done.

I do take offense at the suggestion that some of the 1,600 Architects and Engineers who have put their names on a Petiton for a new investigaion are "hostile to the U.S." That is a baseless ad hominem. What evidence do you have of this "hostility" from any of these 1,600 architects or engineers?

Would you consider these two people hostile to the U.S., too? (Hint: I am a relative of the first one.)

** Chairman, 9/11 Commission, Thomas H. Kean, Former Governor of New Jersey
"FAA and NORAD officials advanced an account of 9/11 that was untrue...We, to this day, don't know why NORAD told us what they told us...It was just so far from the truth."

** Vice Chairman, 9/11 Commission, Lee Hamilton, Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Homeland Security Advisory Council
"We got started late; we had a very short time frame...we did not have enough money...We had a lot of people strongly opposed to what we did. We had a lot of trouble getting access to documents and to people. ... So there were all kinds of reasons we thought we were set up to fail"


http://www.ae911truth.org/en/evidence.html#Technical_Articles

Posted by Peter Morse on 10/04/2011 at 11:58 AM

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Controlled demolitions collapse buildings from the BOTTOM UP. Look at any video of one. The WTC buildings collapsed from the TOP DOWN.

Posted by jjohnson on 10/04/2011 at 10:56 AM

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"Was the steel tested for explosives or thermite residues?"

"NIST did not test for the residue of these compounds in the steel."

NIST Responses to FAQs, August 2006

"NIST spokesperson Michael E. Neuman was challenged by Hartford Advocate reporter Jennifer Abel on this glaring omission in the WTC report

ABEL: what about that letter where NIST said it didn't look for evidence of explosives?

NEUMAN: Right, because there was no evidence of that.

ABEL: But how can you know there's no evidence if you don't look for it first?

NEUMAN: If you're looking for something that isn't there, you're wasting your time."

Think about who is pushing the merits of this approach.

The demolitions of the three buildings are not a scientifically controversial subject.

The following three conditions cannot be explained without explosives:

1. Molten iron in the basements of all three buildings.

2. The complete annihilation of all three buildings and their contents.

3. The rate of which all three buildings collapse while they are being destroyed.

It has been demonstrated time and again that the establishment has nowhere to go with this. Presenting these three basic items is the equivalent of placing your hands onto the neck of the establishment and squeezing. They are stuck. As you see in this exchange, the more they dispute it, the worse it gets for them. It has NIST lying about conditions 1 and 3 and every politician using Popular Mechanics and the 9/11 Commission report as their excuse for willful ignorance. It has the Royal Institute of British Architects screaming "anti-Semitism" when Architect Richard Gage makes no mention of Judaism in his presentation.

Pathetic.

Posted by Rip Harvest on 10/04/2011 at 10:29 AM

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The fact that these 1600 professionals have not produced a single technical paper in any engineering journal, in any language, in any country, Even ones that are hostile to the U.S., is very telling. Maybe ten years isn't quite long enough. Maybe they don't really have any evidence. If they had real evidence they'd win a Pulitzer Prize, but it seems their fraud leader would rather tour the world on gullible people's money. I'm sure the author of this article shares my concern.

Posted by gene simmons on 10/03/2011 at 9:10 PM

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Thanks, everybody, for all the comments, pro and con. A spirited debate is a healthy thing.

One observation: Ever notice how the "truthers", as we have been labeled, usually stick to simple, direct, rational arguments based on specific facts and evidence, while the "anti-truthers" (for lack of a better term), usually come at this from a highly emotional level, complete with personal attacks and palpable anger that comes across as more than a little unhinged? And yet it is the "truthers" who get dismissed as wackos. Strange.

Posted by skinnyman on 10/03/2011 at 1:44 PM

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LMAO!!! @ "Natural Law Proof". You morons have no idea what science is or how it works. The fact is that AE9111Truth and the parade of loons and liars following Steven Jones around have repeatedly hid from academic scrutiny and continue to hide in fake journals & youtube. 0 of Jones's claims of thermite have been corroborated or demonstrated in any academic forum. The fact is that truthers are dazzled by buzz words like "path of least resistance", eutectic, Newton's Laws, "iron-rich", etc. If truthers knew what any of that meant they would know Gage and Jones are FoS.

Posted by grandmastershek on 10/03/2011 at 11:48 AM

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@Wiley coyote
AE911Truth.org has never once said "the big bad government" was "responsible for planning 9/11" All we and many others have done is show, using science, that explosive materials were used at WTC. That has been proven beyond doubt by natural law proof, multiple independent analyses of physical evidence, literally tons of it, and the testimony of over 100 FDNY eyewitnesses (fire fighters & EMTs: see NYT Oral History archive). Who put it there? I don't know, but I'd like to find out and so would the families of victims.

You say there is"no science" at AE911Truth.org's website: if you go to the Evidence page you'll find lots of "science." your Regarding your "vacuum of space" comment: WTC is at sea level, there is no "vacuum of space" at sea level, and, no, thermite is not found in children's sparklers. We cannot be nearly so careless about science, the victims deserve much more.

Posted by Peter Morse on 10/02/2011 at 1:50 PM

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Request for correction;

"...National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), the author of the official collapse story."

to be more precise;

"...National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), the author of the official just poised to collapse;actual global collapse after this point was inevitable and we don't need to look at that part of the collapse story."

Posted by Justdafactsjack on 10/01/2011 at 3:52 PM

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@Wiley Coyote:

Do you have a real explanation of the red/gray chips?

Can you account for the 5-6% iron-based microspheres found in the WTC dust?

What about the steel recovered and analyzed by Worchester Poly Institute which CONCLUSIVELY showed the steel had melted by means of a eutectic reaction?

Until you can explain ALL of these phenomena, you and all the apologists of the official theory are left with childish tactics (like calling "truthers" losers).

There is a lot of disagreement among those who question the official theory, HOWEVER, as others have mentioned, we are UNITED in the fact that we have been (and continue to be) lied to. That doesn't necessarily mean Cheney planted the charges in the WTC towers, but when they refuse to testify under oath, refuse to have a real investigation and ridicule anyone who questions the official story, it gives all the more weight to the notion that they are hiding something that would make them look bad.

Doesn't take a genius to see they and their defense/intelligence network of businesses benefitted immensely. Dynasties were created from the money spent on "fighting terrorism" or whatever we were supposed to be doing in Iraq and Afghanistan.

And there are still morons who believe Saddam Hussein had anything whatsoever to do with 9/11. Those are the real suckers holding the rest of us down.

Posted by Jay Howard on 10/01/2011 at 12:27 PM

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"Why not start with a real investigation of the events of Sept. 11?"

Why not start by providing evidence that the "big bad government" was responsible for planning 9/11 first?

"I think we owe the victims of this massive crime nothing less."

No, what you owe them is to stop accusing them of being "in on it".

"Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, a group devoted to the scientific study"

There's no science to be found any where on their website. Go figure!

"If you want to talk conspiracy theories, the official explanation for the collapsing towers is a whopper."

Would you like evidence with your whooper? Stop making excuses and get with the program.

"A straight-down, nearly free-fall collapse means that the structures met virtually no resistance on the way down."

Guess you never knew about the vaccum of space?

"Subsequent testing of WTC dust samples established the presence of thermite, a high-powered incendiary that cuts through a steel beam like a lightning bolt through a stick of butter."

And yet this thermite is common among sparklers with children hold at events. It must be some kind of "magic" that that small thin steel wire it's coated on doesn't melt. OOPS!

"I remember network news anchor Peter Jennings, mesmerized by video of the collapse, observing, "Almost like a controlled demolition."

And just like Dylan Avery you don't know what a simile is.

Posted by Wiley Coyote on 10/01/2011 at 11:53 AM

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Another thing I forgot to mention.

Truthers are so despite for the truth that they got a petition going at:

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/open-new-independent-investigation-events-911-focusing-twin-towers-and-collapse-building-7/kNg6V5QP

Just look at how many people signed it. Kind of pathetic!

Posted by Wiley Coyote on 10/01/2011 at 10:42 AM

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Everyone, even a child, watching building 7 drop, intuitively knows that buildings don't do that. Ever. Not unless controlled demolition is used. I suspect that's why Americans have never been shown this building dropping on the mainstream media, other than the day it happened. A 610 foot building coming down in under 7 seconds, part of it in measurable free fall, and it wasn't hit by a plane or significantly damaged by the North Tower exploding downward a football field away. Doesn't quite fit the government's story. That's why most Americans have never even heard of the third building.

I bet if you dropped a 47-story building in Tucson, people would have heard about it.

And the government (NIST) took seven years to come up with a ridiculous, scientifically fraudulent report that tells us this modern, steel-framed building dropped suddenly because small office fires weakened a single column. Even a child should know that is BS.

Posted by Even a Child on 10/01/2011 at 8:47 AM

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There's a lot of people:

http://www.mediaroots.org/mark-dotzler-sculpture-artist-seeks-truth.php

Posted by public on 10/01/2011 at 6:17 AM

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Wonderful article!!!

ANYONE who spends 8 hours honestly researching the events of September 11th (and can confront the discomforts of having been duped by our government), will certainly come to the same conclusions that the government has grossly & blatantly deceived the American public.

More and more people are finding out. Approximately one out of 12 people are aware of the 9/11 Cover-up.

Posted by Dallas Truth on 10/01/2011 at 5:14 AM

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THANK YOU! I fully support this patriotic journalist for exercising his god given inalienable right to freedom of speech and salute him for speaking truth to power! RememberBuilding7.org Tell your loved ones. Revolution is in the air.

Posted by Camron Wiltshire on 10/01/2011 at 3:24 AM

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Great article Randy, I suspect you already know your will be subjected to a concerted character assassination for speaking the truth, so kudos to you.

Posted by andrew.w on 09/30/2011 at 11:55 PM

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Hear hear....a voice of reason...the neo conservatives were behind all this....republicans are at war with America.....

Posted by arivaca6 on 09/30/2011 at 1:07 PM

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The preference would be an independent investigation outside of the United States but it would be interesting to see what would happen when the quantity of signatures is met for this White House petition.

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/pe…

Posted by Rip Harvest on 09/30/2011 at 11:11 AM

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Bless you and thank you, Mr. Serraglio! After the nauseating drivel spewed at us by the media (including the Weekly) about this historic event to reinforce the ludicrous conspiracy theory cooked up by the government, your concise, factual commentary is a breath of fresh air.

And if anyone else feels, as PUPITO apparently does, that truthers are losers, I can only respond that that I'd much rather be an honest loser than an idiotic winner with no soul. The available evidence doesn't support the official story-to insist otherwise is simply ignorance on a cosmic scale.

Posted by RJFletcher on 09/30/2011 at 7:43 AM

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Christopher Pringle, you may be too subtle with your gallows humor. Yes, as you say, "We will huddle together and thank our warrior presidents for their war on terror and (their war on) FREEDOM and wish them godspeed that their endless efforts will be even half as successfull as the continuing war on drugs." Of course the war on drugs success is zero.
And what is our chance of restoring our government to represent us before our corporatocracy government declares open war on us? Is it too late already?

Posted by TXJesse on 09/29/2011 at 10:17 PM

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