Picture yourself as a humble small-business owner. You arrive at work one fine, crisp Tucson morning to a surprising letter from your bank. It says you have two weeks to get any and all the assets out of your account before they freeze it indefinitely.
The rent on your office is due next week, and Friday is payday for your employees, and Tucson Electrical Power is wondering when they are going to get their check for last month’s energy usage. The bank offers no explanation of why your account was closed.
This is the daily reality for small business owners who conduct services in the medical marijuana industry throughout Arizona.
For Aari Ruben, owner and operator of Desert Bloom Re-leaf Center, this exact scenario has happened to him six or seven times since opening the doors of his business a little more than two years ago. The most recent note he happened to receive from Chase Bank the morning he spoke with Tucson Weekly.
“Basically they just see the large amount of cash going in on a regular basis and the names of the vendors we’re paying money to and try to get rid of it,” Ruben says. “They don’t give any reason for it, and it’s not something we can ask them to reconsider.”
All banks are FDIC insured, which means they have to abide by federal law in order to keep that certification. Although these businesses are perfectly legal under the Arizona Medical Marijuana Act, they are still illegal federally.
“They don’t want to risk their line of revenue,” Ruben says. “This seems like a big business, but relative to other more developed industries, it’s really small.”
Businesses such as Ruben’s are using their bank accounts in the same way all traditional businesses do—to write checks to pay for rent, utilities, payroll and all of the sales taxes that they incur. The only difference is that these businesses serve medical marijuana patients.
This happens so frequently to Ruben’s business that they already have a contingency plan to deal with their account being closed. By staying ahead of the game they have another bankroll open before the old one is closed and simply transfer the money to the new account.
“It’s an interruption that every other type of business doesn’t have to deal with,” Ruben says. He says it’s a hassle having to deal with this on such a regular basis. Changing accounts requires him to change their payroll, deposit slips and utilities checks.
Similar scenarios happen to patient referral centers as well, even though they are not selling any marijuana product, their accounts get shut down.
Both Chase Bank and Wells Fargo, places where Ruben has had bank accounts related to his business shut down, declined to comment.
Tumbleweed Health Center, the longest running medical marijuana referrals business in Tucson, used different methods to handle their money, but were closed in similar fashion. Kim Williams, Tumbleweed Health Center co-founder says they used both Intuit and Square, mobile banking apps, to serve their patients. The two companies eventually closed their accounts.
“Both Intuit and Square says it was specifically because of medical marijuana,” Williams says, adding that both companies closed their accounts with next to no prior notice.
The strange part is that despite these businesses being illegal federally, it does not stop them from paying federal income tax on all the accounts they have open in their name. Internal Revenue Code section 280E allows for the taxation of illegal income in the same way as legal, but refrains from letting “illegal” business take tax deductions that most businesses would expect.
Administration, labor, utilities, occupancy, everything that’s associated with bringing a product to market is not deductible for Ruben’s business.
“Even though we’re operating a business that isn’t legal under federal law, we’re still taxed heavily and denied our basic deductions,” Ruben says. “The government doesn’t care whether your source of income is legal or illegal, they still expect to be paid their taxes.”
For these businesses, they aren’t trying to do anything shady like selling marijuana to non-medical patients or make drug deals with drug cartels. They are simply trying to serve the people that they view as patients in need of medicine.
“We want to be transparent on that,” Ruben says. “We don’t want to hide any money or play any shell games. We’re just trying to operate our retail service and serve our patient population.”
Until it becomes federally legal, it seems these businesses are SOL in terms of banking. Attempting to open up an account and disguising the fact that your business is a provider of either medical marijuana or medical marijuana referrals could be considered money laundering.
“It’s a nightmare. It’s challenging and it creates a lot on anxiety being in a business that people aren’t readily willing to accept yet,” Williams says. “We’re not going let anyone stop us, we’re going to keep plugging.”
This article appears in Nov 12-18, 2015.

The Banking practices set up by a MMJ business is solely up to the proprietor. If a business is buying their product from out of state then we also have two states or more transferring over state lines put bank in a precarious situation. (possible cartel)
In my opinion this is all brought upon by Bill Montgomery and the like as Arpaio increases his raids and then promotes in resorts and country clubs across the retirement community. This is something that MPP and the dispensaries want so they can say foul too. looking for public support and a kindred spirit of “Legalize Like Alcohol.”
I have about as much concern of most of the dispensaries being in business and staying in business as legalization come to the forefront. I have been to about every dispensary in the valley at least once. Not impressed with the ” PATIENT” term being thrown around this is a joke. It appears most try to administer to the patient first a life style a political view then medicate.
Lets look around the state California is about to legalize. Mexico Supreme Court said it is a constitutional right to use marijuana Colorado while close is legal so surrounding the state is all becoming legal. Arizona wants to economically control this with this BS imprisoning individual defeating “LEGALIZE LIKE ALCOHOL” initiative. Lets look at the freedoms won in Ohio. Look at what the Washington did when it became legal the rule committee changed about everything. Now Washington has problems with Canada and Oregon both going legal was well as Montana. Now they find their rules and methods of tax collection and market control are going south. Colorado their tag a plant and tax a clone is going bad too.
Why is it the medical community has walked away from the medical aspects of Marijuana. Progressive is not a definition it is a individuals understanding of social and political views. With this kind of thinking to deal with in the Medical community they will be cast aside as quickly as a dispensary calling it a medical practitioner of any type.
Sorry Ruben I don’t care there is one thing these dispensaries and the residual business must understand. They have not done a thing but try to set up a business and crawl in bed with the politicians that have their hand out while the patient goes in the ground. I have consumed Marijuana for over 40 years. It has gotten weaker and more abundant and more costly and taxed. I did this before the MMJ 203 was passed just why do I need a dispensary these guys are in the middle of a squeeze one rule change and their gone. They have alienated a huge part of the customer base set up the market to be bulled over by big bank, business,and suppliers this is not staying ahead of the curve.
By the way those little magnetic strips woven inside money they have sensors at the ports in the lobby’s of airports & xray machines as well as some police in some jurisdictions slow traffic and have senors on the road that a car can drive over bingo civil seizure all civil servants get a bonus. I installed them at the Dennis DeConcini port. To me this is a unauthorized search
Life is a little different in Colorado. There are currently 24 banks in Colorado quietly doing business with the MJ industry. They charge monthly fees in the $2,000-$3,000 per month range, and require the businesses to not keep large amounts of money in the accounts, as large amounts of money in demand accounts raises the bank’s reserve requirement with the Fed.
In reflection of this slight encumberment. There several ways to pay obligations wont go into that. Just just pondering the proposed “MARIJUANA CONTROL BOARD” by the mpp initiative. Would this mean that the board would set up its own BANK since being denied access to national banks mentioned here ? It appears that is the case to me reading the proposal on how they disperse funds. The proposal is very precise on how to collect and disburse monies just not on how to make rules yet. The writing is on the wall I would soon be looking investment monies cronies and the paper trail wont be there.
NIDA, the US Dept of Health, and the US National Cancer Institute ALL agree that this plant kills cancer (as such it is clearly a medicine, for those of you in the DEA). Take a minute and sign the petition to force the director of the DEA (Chuck Rosenburg) to resign for his outrageous statements declaring that marijuana is not medicine. If this disingenuous imbecile cannot play with the rest of the team he should stop trying to do the jobs of those far more qualified than he, and resign!
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