The more Robin Muller thinks about her nightclub getting red-tagged
twice since May, the angrier she gets, as she wonders how the city can
allow a policy—originally developed to discourage rowdy college
parties—to affect a 15-year-old business based on the complaints
of one person.
Muller and Lisa Oberstar are co-owners of Ain’t Nobody’s Bizness,
aka The Biz, a lesbian nightclub on Broadway Boulevard just west of
Country Club Road, in the same shopping center as Laffs Comedy
Caffé. They claim that during the club’s 15-year history,
including the three years they’ve owned it, they’d never heard
complaints before.
That changed on May 1, when the nightclub got its first red tag.
In reaction, Oberstar says, they went to great lengths to keep noise
down. They modified a back patio built for smokers in January 2007.
They say the porch originally cost them about $20,000, and additional
modifications—including a sound barrier that can be opened or
shut, depending on the crowd—cost more than $10,000. A set of
speakers on the patio were disconnected about a year before, too.
Muller says The Biz suffered a 40 percent decrease in sales during
the week following the first red tag.
“People thought we had closed. Rumors,” she says.
Despite the modifications and changes to keep noise down, neighbor
Ann Kipnis—who made the call that resulted in the first red
tag—called TPD again, on Nov. 5. According to the police report,
there were about 25 people in the nightclub, and the manager
voluntarily closed the bar.
Meco Wade, who was in her second week as a manager at the bar, says
there were closer to 10 or 12 people inside the nightclub. She also
says she didn’t voluntarily close the bar, but was told by the officer
to get everyone out; she says the officer even checked the back patio
to make sure the place was empty before Wade locked the doors.
“They made sure we closed the bar that night before 11 (p.m.),” Wade
recalls.
Wade says she takes the blame for the second red tag; she knew the
nightclub had been red-tagged in May, but didn’t know about the
precautions to keep noise levels down, including the sound barrier.
However, Muller says she wonders why the second red tag was
necessary.
“Why couldn’t the police officer just ask us to shut the door? Or
why couldn’t (the neighbor) call and let us know that we were too noisy
for her that night?” Muller asks. “We’ve been doing what we need to do
to be good neighbors. I even left a note at (Ann Kipnis’) door with our
contact information, asking her to call us if there were any problems.
Why didn’t she call us?”
Any speculation that this is an attempt to pick on a gay bar is
untrue, according to Kipnis and her husband, Theo.
While Oberstar and Muller suspected that Kipnis might be new to the
neighborhood, Kipnis says she and her husband bought their house back
in 2002. They never had a problem with the nightclub before; they’d
even open their windows to listen to the karaoke, she says.
“Before we bought our house, we went by there at night to see if
we’d have problems with noise from the bar, but we didn’t,” Kipnis
says.
That changed, however, when a voter-approved state smoking ban in
restaurants and bars went into effect in 2007, and the nightclub built
a patio to accommodate smokers.
“They installed speakers outside, and all of a sudden, the noise
level shot up. I called to ask if they could quiet things down. The
first couple of calls, they were polite, but the last couple of calls,
they were like, ‘Take a hike,'” Kipnis says.
Kipnis says the real problem is that the noise started to wake up
her 8-year-old son.
“The second time I called, when they were red-tagged again, it was
as loud as I’ve heard it in months. I even kind of laughed, because
someone was singing ‘Bohemian Rhapsody.’ I really love that song. And
you know, I really like the bar,” she says.
In an e-mail to the Weekly, Theo Kipnis wrote: “The
neighborhood we live in is chosen by people who want to be part of
Tucson’s local and urban culture. … The Biz is part of our local
culture of small businesses, and we like it. When The Biz has sent
advance notice of likely noise from upcoming events, we’ve had no
complaint. But now there are times we can’t sleep, and the bar’s staff
and ownership don’t seem to care. Our only recourse has been TPD, and
they’ve been helpful.”
While Ann Kipnis has been listed as the only complainant on the
red-tag police reports, she and her husband say they aren’t the only
neighbors who have concerns regarding the noise from the nightclub.
Bob Tracy, a member of the Broadmoor-Broadway Village Neighborhood
Association board, confirmed this fact. He says numerous neighbors have
shared concerns regarding the noise.
“The issue with The Biz is that before the red tag, the noise was
too loud,” Tracy says.
The hearing for the second red tag is scheduled for Dec. 8 in Tucson
City Court. If the judge doesn’t dismiss the case, Muller says, the red
tag will stay on the door of the nightclub for six months. If there is
another violation in that time, the bar will be fined $1,500.
Muller and Oberstar say they’ve thought a lot about Woody’s, a gay
bar on Oracle Road that dealt with its own red-tag issues last year
after an apartment-complex manager complained about noise, even though
tenants reportedly never complained. (See “Red-Tagged,” Currents, Dec.
18, 2008.)
“Are we (gay bars) being singled out?” Muller wonders. “I can’t help
but wonder if that’s true.”
As of our press deadline, the Tucson Police Department had not
returned calls asking for information on how many red tags have been
issued to bars within the year.
“We’re not your typical nightclub owners,” Muller says. “We’re
homebodies. … We still have to pay the bills, and every time we get
red-tagged, we lose money.”
This article appears in Nov 26 – Dec 2, 2009.

So why is the Gay bar seemingly targeted here, when the Coffee Xchange has had numerous complaints for a lot longer?!
I’m amazed that the only “red tags” I ever hear about in Tucson are on LGBT bars… On Halloween the local Baptist church half a block from my house had a very loud (and bad) band outside in their parking lot that played for hours. I finally had to shut my doors and windows and still could hear the carterwaling singer and the off-key backup singer doing crappy “Christian Rock.” No one told them to quiet down at all.
It seems that TPD has a thing about tagging LGBT bars while allowing other noisy events and venues to get away with it. Despite Kipnis’ claims, I wonder if she would have been more amenable to “taking part in the culture” if it were a straight club.
This is Ann Kipnis. I’ve spoken with Robin, one of the bar’s owners. She assures me that she isn’t under the impression that I have a problem with her business aside from the issue of noise on weeknights. She did, however, express concern about the motive and legality of the responding officer insisting the bar shut down and his action should be examined, in my opinion. RFS_Buck, I also am vigilant against bigotry in our community. I also am frustrated and furious about the intolerance I witness in Tucson. If we ever have the pleasure of meeting, you will rest assured as to the quality of my character. Please keep in mind that I have enjoyed being a Biz neighbor for 8 years. I called the bar many times to ask for their help over the years. The manager there stopped responding to me in a positive manner. She is now gone. Maybe therein lies the reason why this situation didn’t stay between neighbors. I look forward to the further discussion of this matter and thank you in advance for placing your suspicions of me aside, as I have not earned them. Respectfully, Ann Kipnis
This is silly. Ann Kipnis clearly went through all the appropriate steps to try to improve the situation, and only went to TPD when all other options were exhausted. Implying that she’s a homophobe simply because Biz is a lesbian bar is nasty and wrongheaded.
I totally agree. As pointed out, Ann Kipnis followed all the rules and tried to work peaceably with the bar’s owner. To label her a homophobe is ignorant and wrong.
Seriously? “Gay bar is red tagged for noise”. Take out the word “gay”, and what on earth is newsworthy? There isn’t any indication that the couple are homophobes, other than the bar owner’s unfounded and baseless musing…. “One has to wonder…” No one doesn’t! How about keep your doors closed and employ the “precautions to keep noise down”, which the manager on duty apparantly forgot to do.
“One has to wonder…” why the bar owner is pointing fingers at the neighbors, instead of just keeping the doors closed. Or maybe, it’s just handy to call someone a homophobe instead of taking responsibility for your own failure to train your staff. One has to wonder… if the Weekly would have even taken on this article if this were a straight bar. One has to wonder how many other bars in town need the Weekly to take up their cause.
There is no story here, other than maybe “local gay bar owner impugns character of local couple “.
I don’t believe Ann is the homophobe, I believe T.P.D. to be the bigots. I have seen and heard of other neighborhood bars getting complaints about noise since the smoking ban went into effect. But I don’t see them being red-tagged, just LGBT places. This is, and has always been, the way with the police in this town, doing and saying anything with near impuinity from the same laws they are supposed to inforce!
“I don’t see them getting red-tagged”? Epaul48, you have some sort of tracking system? You keep track of all of the bars in town, you know which ones have received complaints, and of those that have, which ones resulted in a red tag? Or, more likely, are you engaging in hyperbolic rhetoric to support a persecution delusion. Are you writing that “I don’t see” as evidence that it in fact doesn’t exist?
Well, “I don’t see” any gay bars getting tagged at all. I literally have never seen a gay bar get tagged. Does that mean that no gay bar has ever been tagged? Well, I haven’t seen it, so I guess it does…
I am very sorry for the owners that have to lose money because of this ridiculous business entity “red-tagging.” It is hard enough to make a profit nowadays.
I’ve got a tip for TPD: use it toward what is was originally intended–discourage underage drinking and “unruly gatherings.” I’d be happy to give you addresses lol
I don’t see the red-tagging as a problem, per se. It seems like this bar was unnecessarily closed down when it was red-tagged, which was excessive. However, we have enough examples in our society of people not having a voice against the interest of profit.
Bars make plenty of profit. The idea that residents have to sit and take whatever inconsiderate, intrusive noise bars care to make is crazy. It’s good that red tags are available as a civic means of controlling noise pollution. Otherwise, residents will all need to hire lawyers to make sure they can sleep at night. Frankly, that sounds like it would get expensive for our small businesses also.