I can’t contain my excitement. Thursday I wrote a post about Nevada’s new vouchers-on-steroids law which allows all Nevada students to set up Education Savings Accounts, unlike Arizona where Republicans have used the elephant’s-trunk-under-the-tent-flap approach to allow only a small portion of Arizona students to set up ESAs, then expand the criteria until it reaches their goal of universal vouchers. In the post, I mentioned Matthew Ladner, who was the education guy at the Goldwater Institute and is now the Senior Advisor of Policy and Research at the organization Jeb Bush created, the Foundation for Excellence in Education. Those two groups were the main forces behind the Nevada bill.
Ladner, seeing his name in my post (I guess he loves Google Alerts as much as I do), chose to respond in the comments section! I’m not excited simply because Ladner is a national figure and a major practitioner of the dark arts of the “education reform”/privatization movement. It’s because Ladner and I have history. We go way back. Some of the most fun I had when I wrote on Blog for Arizona was when he and I, along with a large group of informed commenters, argued in the comments sections of posts where I debunked the nonsense that came out of Ladner and G.I. (I generally used the heading “Fool’s Gold” for those posts. Get it? GOLDwater? Fool’s Gold?). The debates literally went on for dozens of comments and tens of thousands of words.
Good times. When in 2009 I said Ladner’s claim that Arizona spent $9,700 per student on education, rather than the nationally accepted figure closer to $7,000, was absurd, we argued and argued and argued, until he wrote, in one of G.I.’s daily emails, that I was at least partly right.
Over the past couple weeks I have been debating progressive blogger David Safier and his readers about per pupil spending in Arizona public schools. It’s been a good exchange, and I have learned things in the process.
Ladner learned things in the process? Be still my heart! Of course, he didn’t exactly say he was wrong, but he wrote,
In the absence of reliable national numbers, I have pledged not to make claims about where Arizona ranks, even if the usual suspects continue to claim Arizona is ranked 49th.
I remember writing during our back-and-forth that even the numbers in the yearly Report Card put out by ALEC (few people knew about ALEC back then) agreed with my figure, not his, and he acknowledged I was correct about that. Then—this is priceless—Ladner took over the duties of writing the ALEC report cards, which now claim Arizona spends $8,806 per student. His report card also gives Arizona a B- grade because we “provide high-quality educational options to all students.”
Ladner wrote a pamphlet touting the Florida educational miracle back when Jeb Bush was governor. I don’t think it was meant as a job application, but I’m sure it didn’t hurt when Jeb began his Foundation for Excellence in Education and was looking for staff. I debunked major parts of Ladner’s assertions, which were based on selective use of data and questionable assertions of cause and effect, and we went round and round about that as well.
Ladner and I had wide ranging arguments—he loves to argue, and he’s good at it—but my absolute favorite was when he insisted that school bus drivers are “bureaucrats.” So are custodians and cafeteria workers, according to Ladner. Ah, what fun we had arguing that one. I even challenged G.I. to refute Ladner’s “bus drivers are bureaucrats” statement, and I received a letter on Institute letterhead saying the Institute was sticking by Ladner’s absurd assertion.
Matthew, please join us occasionally here at my current home on The Range, like you did Thursday. Sparring with you is always a delight, and I’m sure the wide assortment of commenters here, whose political views range more widely than they did on Blog for Arizona, would enjoy entering the discussions as well.
This article appears in Jun 4-10, 2015.

I for one am glad to see him back. What I find even more troubling (than David’s daily column) is that these two have proven nobody knows what is being spent on education.
I have been told that when you add capital maintenance and improvements, current and un/under funded pension plans, the real number is close to $17,000.
If we don’t know what is being spent, how could we possibly evaluate results? There is currently one very effective way:
Go to a fast food restaurant, and buy something that costs $8.21. When you give the money to the college graduate, give them a $20 bill and .21 (cents). Take special care to look into their eyes and then listen to what they say.
There is your answer. It couldn’t be any plainer. Lat time I did that she opened the cash register drawer and said, “just take what you think is right.”
That’s what public schools have given us.
I hope you don’t hurt your good arm patting yourself on the back. I suspect your quotes were selective in much the same manner as movie companies cherry pick sentences from movie reviews to give credence to an obviously panned movie. Must be a slow blog day.
Did she turn around the cash register first before asking you to dip in, Rat T?
No way do I believe this absurd story.
The Titanic is sinking. Goldwater and ALEC (one and the same) either insist it’s not sinking or that the holes in the hull aren’t that many. Then they insist the water in the hull is good for efficient running of the ship, it trims the ship. Then Ladner and Il Duce trot out an amazing idea, that’s “good policy and good politics,” we will paint the deck pink and move 1200 chairs from one side the the other. See! We have improved the ship, it is much better than before. Just minutes before it goes under. And they get what they wanted in the first place, a new ship without those pesky third and second class passengers. Blob, blob, blob.
The register was bolted down. Lucky for the business owner. There were two other people with me that witnessed it.
Ratso, the only way I will believe your story is if you pinky swear ;-}
I apreciate your efforts to indict the GOP, but the correct legislative term is, “The nose of the camel in the tent.”, not the elephant’s trunk.
Aw, c’mon. Let’s have a little fun here. I’d rather have that trunk snaking around under the tent than to always be listening to a bunch of braying about it ;-}
I pinky swear. What does that mean?
In my world pinkies and fuzzies are baby rats.
Public school failure is a myth.
“In the rush to privatize the country’s schools, corporations and politicians have decimated school budgets, replaced teaching with standardized testing, and placed the blame on teachers and students.”
http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/educatio…
Come on Pima. Take a look at the board. You must be kidding. Stanford grad and founder of living economies? Author of “Life after Capitalism?”
Just another jealous anti corp type that would now praise Walmart for raising pay, when they spent years trying to destroy their economic model.
Their souls are driven by control of others. No thanks.