The Pima County Interfaith Civic Education Organization will host a debate about the fervently discussed, Gov. Doug Ducey-sponsored Proposition 123 this Saturday, April 9 at St. Odilia Catholic Church parish hall. 
The proposition, which voters will decide in a state-wide election on May 17, would “increase education funding by $3.5 billion over the course of 10 years by allocating money from the general fund and increasing annual distributions of the state land trust permanent funds to education,” according to Ballotpedia.com. The Arizona Daily Star reports that the lawsuit was originally filed back in 2010 after the state “failed to adjust the base level per-pupil funding according to inflation as required by a 2000 voter-approved proposition.” 

Supporters of Prop 123 say it would fulfill a long-overdue debt to Arizona schools, while opponents—notably led by Arizona State Treasurer Jeff DeWitt—say the state land trust money in question already belongs to the state’s schools, according to the debate’s press release. 

“The Debate on Prop. 123” on Saturday will feature four speakers—two arguing for the passing of Prop. 123, and two against it. Phoenix natives J.P. Twist, Let’s Vote Yes Prop. 123 chairman, and Andrew Morrill, Arizona Education Association president, will argue in support of Prop. 123, while Tucson natives Morgan Abraham, No Prop. 123 chairman, and Brian Clymer, a local attorney, will argue against it. 

The debate starts at 3 p.m. and will run until 4:30 at 7570 N. Paseo del Norte. Learn more about Prop. 123 here

15 replies on “Learn About the Pros and Cons Behind Prop. 123”

  1. What about that whole separation thingee in the Constitution? It doesn’t apply to liberals does it?

  2. Mo money for illegals, mo money for illegals, mo money for illegals and those that exploit them to line their pockets.

    Analysis of the latest Census data indicates that Arizona’s illegal immigrant population is costing the state’s taxpayers about $1.3 billion per year for education, medical care and incarceration. Even if the estimated tax contributions of illegal immigrant workers are subtracted, net outlays still amount to more than $1 bil- lion per year. The annual fiscal burden borne by Arizonans amounts to more than $700 per household headed by a native-born resident.

    http://www.fairus.org/site/DocServer/azcosts2.pdf

  3. I’m voting no. Somehow paying our kids by shorting our grand kids doesn’t make sense. The Phoenicians will have to find a better way to “do the right thing” for our children.

  4. Yup. I’m going with a big no on this one. All my teacher friends are gonna hang me, but liquidating a big chunk of the state trust fund for schools future to pay for schools now is a raw deal. The slime up in Phoenix need to cut the crap with all the private prison contracts and give the schools back the money the voters demanded, period. This sleight of hand to get out of what the people of AZ already made abundantly clear to the legislature sickens me.

  5. @Moyla75. You may have the correct concept on Prop 123, but the way things are going* our kids may need a better education now. Then, maybe, they will be able to help the grandkids.

    *With a 20T$ National Debt, are grandchildren are already screwed.

  6. As a general rule, I vote no on any proposition, especially those that tie the hands of state government when it comes to budgetary issues, and this Prop 123 shall also enjoy my no vote.

  7. How many more times will our so-called representatives try to avoid giving back the money from Arizona education that they stole in the first place? They’ve been ordered by the courts to do so and yet they continue to try to take from Peter to pay Paul. This reminds me of the case years ago when Arizona was ordered to pay back military veteran retirees who were being double-taxed by the state. Up till this time, they had not taxed active duty military with Arizona as their home of record and their solution was to start taking money from the active duty Arizonans to pay back the wrongly taxed Arizonan retired veterans. I guess they figured it worked then and taking from someone else now is as easy as 1-2-3 with Proposition 123.

  8. Where were all of you when teachers and students were being shorted by the refusal of the state to pay the lawsuit that was filed six years ago and settled in our favor? Now I hear plenty of people up in arms about the proposition, but I didn’t hear from many outside of education before this point about the matter.

  9. i liken 123 as an employer saying to employees, “I know I shorted your pay check and the court says I have to pay you back, so I’ve going to take your 401k money.” The proposal sucks, basically the State Trust Land belongs to the schools so Ducey et al stole money from our kids and now wants to raid the schools own money to pay them back.
    All that said, our schools are desperate they need the money now. If 123 fails it will be tied up in courts for decades – remember Ducey is already trying to stack the supreme court with his cronies so that outcome is all but certain. Hold your nose, but vote yes.

  10. Dear Ducey, you WILL be a 1-termer!

    This is the same BS the legislature pulled with the state employees retirement system! They raided, stole from, and skimmed off the top till the voters put a stop to it. If they’re, once again, allowed to rob the future to pay the bill that was covered back in 2000 it will spiral into an endless cycle of destruction.
    The voters will once again be forced to put a stop to this insane BS!
    It makes this mama bear furious!

  11. I’m voting no on this bad boy this is land you can NEVER get back. So im voting for tommorow tomorrow after tomorrow’s generation that isn’t here to vote NO the only reason this is anonymous is because I don’t facebook. You should think for tomorrow also please.

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