The young woman sitting at a kitchen table with her father looks like any other Arizona teenager. Her hair is pulled back in a ponytail, and she’s wearing jeans and a T-shirt emblazoned with a large silver peace sign.
Moments ago she was running around her family’s house in slippers being chased by a little black puppy her family got her—a perfect distraction from her family’s worries that her father faces deportation back to Mexico, where the family came from more than 14 years ago.
At the request of the family’s attorney, the Tucson Weekly will not identify her or her father or mother. The family is undocumented, in the country illegally. But this 18-year-old wants you to know a few things about her. She wants you to know that she works extra hard to be a good person. She obeys the law, works hard in school and cares about her community. She is in almost every way a model U.S. citizen.
“I’ve always had to work harder than most of the other kids I know, kids who have their papers, kids who are here legally and always getting into trouble,” she explains.
She entered the United States when she was three years old. Now she plays a bit of a waiting game, hoping for the passage of the Dream Act legislation, which would allow young adults who entered the U.S. illegally as young children to stay in the country and be able to eventually apply for citizenship.
“We’ve been here for 14 years. My father came here—jumped over the fence. My brother and I came here in a car with friends, and my mother came over in a different car,” she says with just a slight accent.
“We’ve been here most of my life. I don’t remember anything about Mexico.”
Part of the waiting game for her also centers on her father, who was apprehended in early July during a traffic stop and spent three weeks in detention while his family figured out the process to post bond and have him released.
Eventually, her father may face deportation proceedings, although she says an attorney is working with the family to help him avoid deportation or at least slow the process to allow him to continue staying with his family as long as possible.
Her father says he was going to work in a truck with two other people for a job he had doing drywall. He was driving in a construction zone that changed the speed limit abruptly to 25 miles per hour and he wasn’t able to slow down fast enough. The police officer who stopped him gave him a ticket for speeding and another ticket for a problem with the car and then another for an expired drivers’ license. The cop also asked the other two people in the car for their identification and asked about their legal status.
“The (SB 1070) law hadn’t (taken effect) yet, but the police asked if they were Mexican. They didn’t have any ID. At that instant my dad showed them a G-28 paper that indicates he has an attorney representing him. I think it’s what eventually helped us get him released on bond.”
She also thinks what helped her father was the information she has learned being involved in local immigration organizations, such as Tierra Y Libertad. Through Tierra, she says she’s learned what to do if she’s stopped and asked about immigration status. She taught this to her parents and other members of the community. Her father followed her advice, while the two men with him did not.
When the Border Patrol showed up, an officer asked all the men to sign a document regarding their legal status, but her father didn’t sign anything and only presented a copy of the G-28 form. The two men with him signed the forms and went through immediate deportation proceedings. Her father went to detention in Florence and because there wasn’t enough room he was transferred to a facility in Pinal County, where he waited almost a month before he finally saw a judge.
His daughter says it was difficult because they knew he had been arrested, but when they called Border Patrol they were told his name wasn’t in the system. It took a long time to figure out where he was and get his proper identification number so an attorney could begin working on his case.
Her father tells her that the best thing to do right now isn’t to worry, but continue to work, go to school and move forward. She takes that advice to heart, as he took her advice on getting stopped by police.
“But don’t get me wrong, when this happened, when I was out of this house people saw me as a strong person, confident and getting out there, but when I got home I would fall apart. I cried almost every night,” she says.
“It is hard, and at the same time you have to suck it up and continue. My dad is a really strong person. ‘You shouldn’t worry. If it is going to happen, we have to continue our lives.’ I’m going to use this experience to help people out. I want to tell them what I know because it is a really hard situation to be in. Be prepared.”
Rachel Wilson, a Tucson immigration attorney who represented the father when he was first detained, says the man and his 18-year-old daughter are an example of why most perceptions of the current immigration process are false.
“Out there, there is this perception that there is a process you can easily go through to become legal, but let’s say you’re Mexican as an example, since most of the immigrants in Tucson are from Mexico. You decide you want to move to the U.S. for economic opportunity, but if you don’t have any family members here … that will sponsor a visa for you, there is no way for them to come legally to the U.S.”
The U.S. immigration process can be frustrating for her and her clients, as well as the dozens of people who walk into her office seeking help only to be told that there is nothing she can do because of the way the law is set up and how the individual arrived in the country.
If a person wants a work visa in the U.S., and eventually to become a citizen, it’s easier if they have a relative in the country who has legal status and can file a petition on their behalf. In those instances there are lines of people waiting—a wait that can go from a period of a few years to sometimes almost a decade.
“If you have an immediate relative who lives in the United States that is your spouse or a child over 21, then you can apply for a visa relatively quickly. It has to be your immediate relative and that person has to be a citizen. So then let’s say you have a spouse who is a legal permanent resident; then you have to get in line and wait probably three or four years. Or you go all the way down to the farthest relative away who can invite a person in, who is a brother or sister who is a citizen, and that line for Mexican citizens is long. There are different lines based on what country you are from. There are some countries that have extra long lines because the United States has determined that there are too many people from that country already,” Wilson explains.
Wilson sits at her computer scrolling through the U.S. State Department website that has all the immigration status information, including what’s called the visa bulletin, a section that immigration attorneys and immigrants often check to find out when their waiting period is going to end.
On the bulletin posted for September 2010 (travel.state.gov/visa/bulletin/bulletin_5113.html) is an explanation of the different visa categories—employment-based visas and family-based visas are all based on specific numbers of visas allotted each year for each category and five countries that have a specific visa quota. Mexico is included in that list, as well as China (mainland born), India, the Dominican Republic and the Philippines.
Every category also has a limit to the number of visas that can be issued, but what’s more troubling for Wilson and other immigration attorneys in Tucson isn’t really the limit on the number of visas, but the backlog that prevents immigration from happening in a timely manner.
Mexico happens to be the most backlogged of all the countries on the bulletin. For example, next month the State Department will look at petitions of brothers and sisters of adult citizens that were filed in January 1994, but if you are from China, they are going to be getting to petitions filed in October 2001.
“It’s really complicated. When they are talking about the preferences they are talking about the degree to the relationship you have and what preference you are in the visa system. So then let’s say you’re Mexican and you have a brother or sister in the United States who petitions for you. Here we are in 2010, and they are processing petitions that were filed in 1994. So that’s a wait of 16 years,” Wilson says.
Rather than wait, many people come over illegally because the system can be daunting and complicated. For example, Wilson says if someone filed paperwork for a relative before April 30, 2001, and they come here illegally and don’t get caught before their visa comes up, they can get a green card. “If, however, your relative filed an application for you after 2001, if you stay here, even if you don’t get caught until your visa comes up, you can’t get a green card because you made an illegal entry.”
The 2001 cutoff comes from 1996 immigration reforms that the U.S. Congress kept renewing and grandfathering, but stopped in 2001—six months before Sept. 11. The father she helped with the 18-year-old daughter who is also here illegally is also an example of the backlog problem. His U.S. citizen brother filed a petition for him long before 2001, but it will probably be another six years before he finally gets a green card.
“It took us three weeks to get him out of detention, and as far as I can tell, he has no relief from deportation except to leave voluntarily, and then in six years when his visa comes up he’ll have to apply for permission to enter … which at this point I don’t know if he can do,” Wilson says.
Is the immigration system and backlog like a bureaucratic mess from a scene in the movie Brazil?
“Oh yes,” Wilson answers. “Some judges have compared it to the tax code, and it’s just as complicated and its crazy and it doesn’t make any sense. Like for example, if you are an asylum seeker and you present yourself at the border and say, ‘I’m seeking asylum,’ they will immediately take you to detention, because that person is what is called an arriving alien. Arriving aliens are subject to mandatory detention and can’t get bond. There is no provision for bond. But if you cross the border illegally and are apprehended somewhere inside the border, then you’re not considered an arriving alien and are eligible for bond. Does that make any sense?”
Wilson says the system is so frustrating because it often goes against all the values that guided her to law school to become an attorney.
“Representing people on a one-by-one basis, it is hard to make any real change in the system; it’s more like just trying to shepherd people through it. I went into law school to fight the man, but I’m not fighting the man, I’m fighting a bureaucracy,” Wilson says.
“I’ve found that a lot of the people who work in the immigration service don’t even want to enforce the law this way, and don’t want the rules to be like this, but they are. And a lot of times it’s not even the law that gets in the way; a lot of times it’s just the bureaucracy. For example, let’s say the law is on your side. You have the correct relationship with a U.S. citizen … you can file your paperwork, and it gets sent back to you because of some clerical error. It doesn’t get resolved right away. Meanwhile that person doesn’t have authorization to work and have the documents they need to get a job, even though it’s just a little clerical error. … They may not be able to work for three to six months.”
If anything does work in the system it is deportation. Wilson says people who argue that the government isn’t doing its job and deporting people are wrong. “It’s a flat-out lie. … The government is deporting people left and right, and immigration courts are backed up two or three years in deportation hearings. The detention centers are full of people, and Immigration has to rent out space in other facilities. For example, everyone is scattered now between the detention center in Eloy and the detention center in Florence, and the Pinal County Jail and the Central Detention Center, and women are sometimes sent out to (the Goodyear prison) Perryville.”
“What the government isn’t good at is processing people’s (applications)—people who have a right to be here, people who have the ability to get their green card.”
Wilson says this is due to an inefficient system that isn’t funded properly and is now a hot potato for any politician who suggests more funding for immigration services. Right now the only way immigration services are funded is through the collection of fees. People who are eligible for immigration have to pay $1,010 for a green card, and a citizenship application costs $675.
“I think that people who are here and have been here for a long time need to have a way to come out of the shadows and work legally,” Wilson says.
Another lie Wilson often hears is that people who hire illegal workers pay them legal wages.
“Undocumented workers are coming here working for less than a legal wage, which in turn causes more businesses to want to hire more undocumented people because they can get away with paying them less than the legal wage. In my view of it, we don’t have as much of an immigration problem so much as we have a labor problem. We have lax enforcement of our laws and if you go to those legislators in Phoenix and talk about law enforcement, ‘What part of illegal don’t you understand? Tell me, Senator (Russell) Pearce, about the employers who pay less than the legal wage. Why aren’t you cracking down on employers who pay less than the legal wage?'” Wilson asks.
“If we were to enforce our labor laws, there would be less incentive to come here because employers would have to pay the same to everybody regardless of documentation—then there would be no incentive to hire anyone undocumented. At the same time, if we had fewer undocumented people, gave people a chance to get their documentation in some fashion, that would cut down on the exploitation as well.”
Immigration, Wilson says, is a straw man that keeps people from focusing on the real problems. If people are worried about crime, she says that there are already many laws against crimes. “Immigration is just a handy scapegoat for all these other problems, so going after immigration doesn’t solve any of those problems.”
Real immigration reform was bantered about in the past during a different economic and political climate, even by the likes of U.S. Sen. John McCain, who pushed for reform legislation with the late Sen. Ted Kennedy. Now, if you want a job in politics, it’s best to keep reform off the table.
Immigration attorney Maurice “Mo” Goldman says he wonders if Kennedy were still alive if he’d sit McCain down and persuade him to take up reform again. But real comprehensive immigration reform isn’t about creating a guest-worker program and calling it a day.
“People would come here for five years, but not stay here and have no path for a green card,” Goldman says. “That does not make sense to me. The employer isn’t going to want them to go and will have grown attached to individuals and the individuals plant roots here and have children going to school here. I know there will be checks making sure people will have to leave, but we will be in the same boat we are in now with a bunch of people who don’t want to leave.”
Instead, he says, we have to make it easier for people to get their visas, and that will ultimately help benefit the U.S. It puts into practice the philosophy that comes from a country built by immigrants. The argument that other countries, including Mexico, treat their immigrants differently and wouldn’t put up with the problem the U.S. does is also ridiculous, according to Goldman.
“First, this country was really built by immigrants. The U.S. didn’t really have an identity until people were coming across the world. Sometimes they were brought here and enslaved, but our country has flourished because of our acceptance of others in this country. A lot of people come here and do great things,” he says.
Rather than focus on those great things, Goldman says in the past decade people have focused on the bad because of Sept. 11. The argument becomes about security, but most statistics he’s seen have shown that terrorists enter legally from other areas, but not Mexico.
Goldman thinks that rather than using immigrants to distract us from the country’s real problems, people should read a study by Raúl Hinojosa-Ojeda, a UCLA associate professor of Chicano and Chicana studies, who determined that immigration benefits the economy.
According to Hinojosa-Ojeda’s report (immigrationpolicy.org/special-reports/raising-floor-american-workers), comprehensive immigration reform would increase the country’s gross domestic product by $1.5 trillion over 10 years. If the country continues on the same path with detention and deportations, it will change the GDP to negative $2.6 trillion.
Besides the economics of immigration, Goldman says we need to consider that as a society we are allowing families to be torn apart and destroying people’s lives; that in itself is un-American.
“As Americans we are a country that opens our arms to people and allows them to pay for their faults. People have to pay a fine or be pardoned for different reasons. We are a forgiving country, but lately not when it comes to immigration,” Goldman says.
For young people who came into the country illegally as infants or toddlers and are now in high school or fresh out of college trying to get jobs, it is an especially unfair system that needs to be changed with legislation like the Dream Act, Goldman says.
“(They) just want to go to college to better themselves and our society. They don’t want to go out and commit crimes. They want to go out and be nurses and doctors. We need that. We need people to go out and be nurses, we need people who are going to join the military. Our military is thin and needs to be increased exponentially,” Goldman says.
“I wonder what guys like Jesse Kelly or Jonathan Paton would say if you proposed that to them. Being military guys, how do they argue against that? … They’d probably say it would benefit the parents eventually, or we’re going to allow a law-breaker to receive some sort of benefit. But I don’t think that kind of argument is justified when you look at the full picture.”
Sometimes the only way to sway people who are against immigration reform, or who argue based on myths rather than fact, is for them to personally experience the immigration system. When Goldman worked as an attorney in New York, where there is a more varied population of immigrants entering legally and illegally, he found it interesting that people who were typically conservative would change their minds when it involved a nanny or someone else who worked for them.
“Then they finally seemed to get it,” he says.
Jennifer Allen, executive director of Border Action Network, an immigration advocacy and education organization that supports immigration reform, says she thinks lawyers have it the most difficult because their job is to work through a system that doesn’t have a lot of options.
“In my field at least I get to work with people, and sometimes we win—well, sort of,” Allen says.
Goldman serves as chair of the Border Action Network board. Allen says she has seen him provide services pro bono, services for which, she says, many in the community are most grateful.
But besides the legal issues, Allen says her organization also teaches immigrants how to develop political skills to be leaders in their community and in the state in order to reform immigration policies.
“Clearly many of us are frustrated and challenged by the existing system,” Allen says. But she says immigrants get involved with the organization and get over their fears because they realize there is “an enormous disconnect about who immigrants are, their role in this country, and what they want. People are willing to step up and say ‘Whoa, none of that is true. Here’s who I am, here’s who we really are. We want the same things that every other family wants … we want to participate and be part of this country.'”
As it is for Wilson and Goldman, the misinformation regarding undocumented immigrants is troubling for Allen. She often travels to Phoenix to keep tabs on the Legislature and any bills that address immigration. Usually the vitriolic rhetoric comes from Senator Russell Pearce, along with members of the Phoenix Law Enforcement Association. Their presentation equates immigrants with murderers and crime.
“This whole myth of criminality is constantly propagated even though criminologists all over the country over and over again say the opposite, which is why cops are often on the same side as immigrant activists, because they have found that a safe community has a high immigrant population,” Allen says.
Immigrant communities often go to great lengths to be law-abiding and respectful. Pearce and other politicians use myths to justify laws that are “meant to address some perceived problem that is not actually the problem,” she says.
Also at issue is how politicians take separate problems—people who cross over illegally, national security, and criminal activity—and blur them together to create greater problems to support legislation like SB 1070. Militarizing the border isn’t the way to deal with these issues, Allen says, but separating the issues and creating policy responses for each problem is.
Ultimately, what will make it better for everyone and prevent politicians from dehumanizing and criminalizing immigrants through false information is immigration reform, Allen says.
What a relief it would be for immigrant communities and the lawyers who represent them. Wilson says she knows that when someone is caught and faces deportation there is little she can do to help them, even if they have U.S.-born children they might have to leave behind.
“There are people who have been living here 10, 20 to 30 years and have entire families here. There’s nothing I can do for them,” Wilson says. “They can ask to remain, but to win that case they have to show that they have U.S. citizen children or spouse and that their family will suffer extreme and unusual hardship if they are deported.”
However, separation from family or loss of that person’s income is not enough. If the child or wife is disabled, that could actually help.
“So I’m constantly asking about that—’Does your child have a learning disability? Does your child have all their limbs?’ I’m just hoping for anything,” Wilson says.
But despite the challenges, once in a while there are a few miracles. Goldman points to a case that occurred in March 2008 when the state raided a Tucson Panda Express restaurant and changed the lives of 11 workers (See “The Panda Express 11,” Nov. 6, 2008), separating them from their families and infant children.
Included among the 11 people was Omar Espino-Lara, who was working as a Panda Express assistant manager when the raid occurred. Now 27, Espino-Lara first came to Tucson at the age of nine. After two years, he says his family moved back to Guanajuato, but returned to Tucson permanently when he was 14.
He was a soccer star at Sunnyside High School and was working at Panda Express because he had to support his family after his father got hurt in an accident, so he had to drop out of Pima Community College.
“I’m back at Pima,” Espino-Lara says. “I’m trying to finish my certification for an A.A. in accounting, and then transfer to the UA.”
After the Panda Express raid, he says he went to the detention center in Florence first, and then spent five months at the center in Eloy. He had applied for a visa in 2000 that would allow him to get his green card, but he had to wait five years. Then the raid.
“When I was taken to detention I didn’t think I’d be able to stay. I thought I was headed back to Mexico, even though I haven’t been there since I was 14,” Espino-Lara says. “After I got out it was stressful. I had to go to court. I didn’t know what was going to happen. Was this the last time I was going to see my family? Was the judge going to send me back to Mexico? Instead, the judge allowed me to prove I wasn’t a dangerous person.”
His permanent visa was finally approved on July 26, 2010. Still, even with a permanent visa, SB 1070 has taken a toll on his family, including all five of his U.S.-born children.
“Even though my wife is a U.S. citizen and I have this visa, my kids are scared. I like to play the radio in the car in Spanish, but my kids would yell at me to turn it down. ‘I don’t want the cop to stop us,’ my daughter told me. I told her nothing can happen to them. ‘You’re citizens.’ ‘Yeah, but you’re not. I’m scared for you,'” he says they told him.
Some of his children’s friends didn’t come back to school this year and left Arizona because of the new law, and their neighborhood has changed, too.
“Yeah, even though I have (a permanent visa) I still feel like a target, since it is based on how you look. But you keep going. I’m almost done with school. I’ve been working at the same time and doing this kind of slow, but I have most of the credits I need.”
Wilson’s 18-year-old client, whom the Weekly agreed to not identify, is trying to get back on track with her application to Pima. Her plan to start college this fall was derailed when her father was put in detention and she spent most of her time rallying the community to help her get him released.
She attended all of her elementary school years at Hollinger Elementary, middle school at Wakefield, and graduated from Pueblo Magnet High School.
“This set me back, but I had to help him, and I felt like I was under pressure because I was the middle man. All the information had to go through me,” she says.
She’s getting ready to take the assessment test and take classes this spring. She wants to attend a four-year college and major in agriculture and Latin American studies. She says she’s also counting on the Dream Act.
“I cannot become a U.S. citizen with my parents; I have to find a different way. My way is going to be the Dream Act,” she says.
“After this happened to my father and after SB 1070, I asked my parents if we should leave. They said, ‘Why? This is our home and we are going to continue to live here.’ Even when my father was in detention, my mother kept working (as a house cleaner). We respect the laws. We respect Border Patrol. We respect the police. We don’t do anything stupid. We follow the rules just like any other person.”
This article appears in Sep 2-8, 2010.



Working for a living is more complicated than you might think. Maybe I’ll just rob banks. I mean, all I want to do is better my life.
Yeah, but folks who come here to work aren’t taking money that rightfully belongs to other people.
That is exactly correct. Taking money that rightfully belongs to other people is the job of governments, local state & federal.
It should be pointed out that they respect all but one law. That the are here illegal.
And in these comments we see the problems caused by not teaching American history honestly and completely. This anti-immigrant fervor and self-righteous attitude about status that comes from luck as opposed to effort make me sick. I am certain (hah!) that these self-righteous bigots have never broken an American law of any kind!
My neck doesn’t look as weird in person as it does in the photo.
And yet, millions of us (me included) managed to apply for immigration to this country, follow the rules, obey the law, and become citizens. Admittedly, it was easier for me BECAUSE I CAME HERE LEGALLY! Trust me, generally speaking everything is a lot easier if you don’t start the process by sneaking across the border and thereby breaking the law.
This is a very maudlin mis-representation. The authoress Mari Herreras should be congratulated for being able to turn a story about illegal aliens into a stomach turning story. Yes – you make me want to puke about these unfortunate criminals.
Thank you for your courage, Mari. Telling this story to a country ridden with anti-immigrant sentiment when all consumers profit from their cheap labor is no simple task. I applaud you.
The coexistence of the #1 nation on Earth alongside a failed totally corrupt third world country is causing many injustices to people caught between the two incompatible elephantine govts. like mice beneath the feet of elephants. The real question is why there are two govts. when one will do? Learn about the Megamerge Dissolution Solution that can end the problem with justice for all at http://go.to/megamerge
We need to keep the good immigrants (the educated ones, the ones who work, the ones who love this country) and get rid of the bad ones ( drug and people smugglers, criminals, and people that aren’t welcomed not even in their country of origin). If we keep the good ones and get rid of the bad ones , we will have a win win situation. More people is beneficial for any country, there is an increase in consuming, thus more money flows, and we can fight this recession more easily.
It is a very difficult question from the human perspective but if I may share with you my experience. I came from Canada (ok, not a third world country) and fell in love with someone of the same sex. Were I straight, it would have been no problem. I could gotten married and voila- green card and then citizenship. Instead I had to leave the country and then reapply , and due to my work skills immigrated legally- took 2 years and eventually became a citizen. In the meantime people can cross the border illegally, and live and work here. I understand that people want to better their lives economically, but for god’s sake, so do half the people in the world.Mexico just happens to have the good fortune to be geographically next to the US making it much easier to cross over than someone from Africa, Asia etc who might want to come here. I think that they get a free pass on this issue and no matter which way you cut it, you are still coming here illegally and this is grossly unfair to all the people who try to do it the legal way (such as I did.)
This wonderful country is not full of anti-immigrant sentiment. All of my friends and co-workers are well aware I came to this country as an immigrant, and I have been welcomed, probably because I came her legally. I can see that they might not feel the same towards those who shoved their way to the front of the line and now demand special privileges. That, however, is not anti-immigrant; that is anti-illegal immigrant, quite a different subject entirely.
It’s basically a fight between privileged vs unprivileged immigrants. We are all migrants. Exception are the Native Americans. Duh!!!
Well as a Native American, that is TON , and definatly a PROUD American. I think that we are being fed a big sh*te sandwich by obama and the democrats; we dont have to take it or like it. Enforce the laws. what reform is needed? Illegal entry is illegal, if anyone (even mexicans) would have have taken the time and effort to apply LEGALLY then they wouldn’t have these problems.
Right now we TO’s are required to apply for US passports and passport visa cards to enter mexico. Let me tell you, the state of Sonora is our Traditional Native Lands, O’odham land.
But any of us who travel and do bussiness in mexico are getting in line and starting the process to travel LEGALLY in mexico, big deal. We obey the laws when we travel, big deal. and they cant?? the lady with 40dd’s could tell you that …
No, the Native Americans are not a blanket exception. For example, the Apaches were Athabascan raiders who moved down from Canada. We know they arrived in Arizona less than 360 years ago because they were not here when Coronado explored the region.
azrls yes they were pertty recent. O’odhams (re : Papagos, hohokams,pimas, pimerias, opa, sobas, all the same thing. Archaeology still doesnt have all the answers we have ) have existed evidentually dated to 1200 b.c. but are still much older with many manifestations. We pertty much stayed in our Creator given Homelands, what would nominally be called the “Sonoran Desert”, to us its just called home.
Thank you, Tucson Weekly and Ms. Herrera for this insightful article. I also would like to thank both attorneys Ms. Wilson, Mr. Goldman and Ms. Allen for their exemplary work helping people in need and for once again reminding us all what being an American is all about. It’s thanks to people like you that each day brings hope to the many people faced with the uncertainty and fear of immigration.
I’m sure this detailed explanation as to how the immigration system and bureaucracy is set up, will not be enough to satisfy the many detractors and narrow-minded folk who prefer other scare tactics.
Your efforts are indeed appreciated and if this article changes at least one person’s view of why the immigration system needs to be revised, as opposed to used as a political “hot potato”, then I would feel satisfied.
Sincerely,
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Most U.S. natives living in a welfare state cannot and will not ever understand the desperation of poverty that most illegal immigrants are trying to escape and that compells them to break a law that defies common sense. I consider these mitigating circumstances that should not be harshly judged by U.S. citizens who talk out of both sides of their mouths, e.g., do you really believe in free enterprise? Do you believe in self-reliance and hard work? Would any U.S. native risk life to cross a blazing desert for the possibility of a subsistence job? Right now, during the Great Recession, how many unemployed U.S. natives are turning down menial jobs. How many laws have you recently broken? Why is illegal immigration such a heinous crime to you. (It’s a federal misdemeanor.) Maybe it’s because you simply don’t want these people here.
Illegals don’t just break one law, but break many, many laws. First they sneak into the country. Then almost all pay to commit “fraud” – a major felony – by buying phony documents. Sometimes they even buy stolen Americans’ ID’s. When they do this, they actually ruin Americans’ lives. One man’s 19 y.o. son I met committed suicide because some illegal from Mexico was committing crimes using this boy’s ID. The boy was hauled into jail so many times, he finally committed suicide. Another couple I met had the husband’s ID stolen and the man was making them horrible debts and moving every 6 months. He ruined their credit and they were unable to buy a vehicle, unable to buy a home for their 3 little children and much, much more. Another lady I know had her son’s (he has polio) SS # stolen by an illegal from Mexico. She & her son were hauled into Court every few months because of this thief. I can go on and on. After they commit fraud, they use this phony ID to steal Americans’ jobs, jobs Americans had and wanted! They also use the phony ID to take Welfare, Food stamps and other Social Services they are not entitled to but steal it anyway. All illegal aliens are NOT “immigrants”. Immigrants are people who come legally but they (the pro-illegal supporters and Aztlan followers – those Mexicans/chicanos who want to take over the SW and even the U.S. or continent if they can hack it) want you to think they are the respected word “immigrants”. This country was built by “immigrants” who respect law – it was not built by “illegal aliens”. Illegal aliens are All criminals. When you break the law, you are a criminal! One more thing: for every illegal alien who takes a place in our colleges or universities, there is an American student who has lost an education. There are just a limited number of places in our colleges and universities, not an infinite amount. They need to go home and have their country take care of them. My friend who was born in Mexico told me that Mexico gives out free university education only to Mexicans and those of Mexican ancestry if they go to a State University. We are now bankrupt as a nation (over $13 TRILLION IN DEBT). WE MUST NOT SPEND ONE MORE PENNY ON ILLEGAL ALIENS BUT ON OUR CHILDREN! ILLEGALS ARE STEALING OUR CHILDREN’S FUNDS & SOCIAL SERVICES!!!
This is to comment on what Justiceforall said. I would like to go point by point. First off more Americans have their identity’s stolen by Natural Born citizens than any demographic you can refer to. Secondly i have piety for the young man who committed suicide however the Law Enforcement community could have easily fixed his problem by acknowledge that his identity was in fact stolen and place an alert on his file. Many Americans go through what this young man went through and in fact fight credit bureaus, the IRS for non existent back taxes etc etc all done by an American. The family that you mentioned that could not buy a home. Well the housing market has always been slanted towards the haves and have not. You can have nothing on your credit and still be denied a mortgage based on the fact that you have a clean credit report. I can also go on and on about how regular everyday Americans are affected by ID theft. You mention that an illegal immigrant takes a space at local universities that a native born citizen would have gotten. When was the last time you tried to enroll into a University like the University of Arizona or ASU with average grades and from a family just above the poverty level? Student Aid is based on your income not where you are from thats why when you graduate from high school if your parents make above that level they don’t get any aid. I know it happened to me and it was almost four years after i got my high school diploma that i got a pell grant. You say that we are $13 trillion dollars in debt, well that debt has been spent on a war that has gone horribly wrong, a war on drugs once again a war that by all means was lost a long time ago, impoverished Americans who cant afford health care and the states taking up the slack of that problem on top of Politicians who mishandle money through pork barrel spending with the good o’l boy networking being involved in that as well. If you were to deport every illegal alien from the US tonight we still would have the same problems that have plagued our nation for decades. Illegal immigrants are the perfect scapegoat because they cant vote, they cant complain when they are mistreated IE illegal wages that most Americans would fight and sue over, and being targeted by criminal gangs who make money to bring them here in the first place. When you add all that in what you say carries little merit except to be a Knee Jerk reaction to a problem that is but a drop in the bucket compared to the problems that are ongoing.
“Illegal immigrants are the perfect scapegoat because they cant vote, they cant complain when they are mistreated…”
Except for the illegals who do indeed vote (illegally). And don’t tell me they don’t because I can cite actual convictions for illegals voting.
Can’t complain? You have to be kidding. Have you not seen the demonstrations by the whiney protestors wrapped in the Mexican flag, demanding their “rights.”
Yeah? Cite away, azrls.
Oh, and you know what? The Constitution applies to every person who is present in the U.S., legal or not. So, all those “whiney” people “wrapped in the Mexican flag”? They do have rights. So they can demand them, just like anyone else.
“Three El Mirage women, including a former mayor, have been indicted in connection with a dozen counts of voter fraud. — Margarita Reese, a former mayor and city manager, and her sister, Esther Flores, who was recalled from the City Council in May 2000, are charged with registering people who were not qualified to vote. They both face Class 6 felonies, punishable by up to a year in jail. — Romelia Calderon was charged with registering to vote in 1987 and in 1995, both Class 6 felonies. She didn’t become a U.S. citizen until 1998. She also is accused of illegally voting in six elections from 1992 to 2002, Class 5 felonies punishable by up to 18 months in jail.”
Both my wife and I applied for census jobs. Both of us have held management positions and we wanted to be crew leaders. We took the tests and scored well but never received a call.
Next they did the testing for the census takers and again we went and took the test. Now here is where it gets interesting. The woman giving the tests had a strong Canadian accent and my wife asked her where in Canada she was from, etc. Turns out she is a Canadian citizen working here with a GREEN CARD!
We scored over 95 on the tests but again never received a call.
The census taker tests were held 5 mornings a week for over 2 months. There were 23 people taking the test the day we attended. Turns out they tested over 1,200 people for 85 positions. Now this is just in the Green Valley area. What a waste of money to test this many people.
azrls, that’s it? ONE person convicted of voter fraud from the 90s? That’s all you got?
And that woman wasn’t even an “illegal”– she had a green card! Not allowed to vote, but not an illegal immigrant, either…
Its not that easy to apply to come here legally from Mexico. I have heard that one needs to own property such as a house or vehicle and also have a steady job (and to have that job for at least a year) and that is just to get Visa which one needs to apply for legal residency or permanent visa.
I understand this article and I think it is very well written and interesting. One question I do have though is these younger people who are here illegally or who have parents that are here illegally are attending public schools and public universities that are funding at least in part by a tax base that they as undocumented aliens are not contributing into. How does one justify that?
Evo, you raise a valid question. Despite the fact that they are working illegally, most illegal immigrants are paid in checks, not cash. Those paychecks go through systematized payroll systems that deduct withholding and social security, just like everyone else. Furthermore, because these people tend to not file tax returns, if they have overpaid on withholding, they never receive a refund. Plus, many illegal immigrants own property here in the U.S. and, therefore, pay property taxes. These two phenomena are the main reason that the Congressional Budget Office found that the budget impact of illegal immigration is “marginal.” See study here: http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/87xx/doc8711/12…
I am a citizen of the Ukraine, and a disabled cancer survivor.
I am married to a US citizen, we have known each other for 11 years. I was diagnosed with the deadly form of cancer 3 days after I came over here to the USA. I entered the USA legally.
My husband and I have been fighting with the local USCIS here in Tucson, who refused to help me get a Green Card, even though we paid the fee, they want us to pay it again and don’t even want to listen to what we have to say.
We have already spent thousands of dollars to pay for my immigration on top of my medical treatment related expenses, and I would appreciate Mr. Wilson’s or Mr. Goldman’s help, because what’s going on in Arizona is simply terrible and beats every kind of imaginable human rights logic.
My cancer stage is T2, which means that I might get a Green Card post mortem.
I am desperate. Please, help me. I can’t live like that anymore !