As the Media Watch Columnist for the Tucson Weekly, I’ve covered my share of firings in radio and television. That typed, it’s still admittedly a bit odd writing my own epitaph.
On Thursday, August 8, Cumulus Tucson Operations Manager Herb Crowe took the time to call Brad Allis and I and let us know the station had decided to make major changes to its radio pre and postgame broadcasts for UA football and men’s basketball. I’ve been involved in analysis for UA sports since the late 90s when I teamed with the likes of Eric Thomae and Ryan Radtke on KNST AM 790. When KNST lost the contract to KCUB AM 1290, I was able to transition into a pre and postgame role there. Brad was brought on board shortly thereafter, and we’ve acted as something of a fixture on those broadcasts for most of the last decade.
Management at Cumulus Tucson decided now was the time to shake things up a bit.
“We wanted to get a different feel for the show, and being able to get Kevin as part of the broadcast along with Rob allows us to extend the brand of the show, and that all feels like good stuff,” Crowe said.
Kevin is Kevin Woodman. Rob is Rob Lantz. They host In the House, the station’s daily afternoon talk show. Rob has teamed with Brad and I on pre and postgame broadcasts for at least the last four years. Woodman, a gifted natural radio talent who has done excellent things alongside Rob, is one of two new additions. The other is Glenn Howell.
And therein lies the real different direction. Howell, who is really good people and handled sideline reports for UA television broadcasts prior to the contract with the Pac-12 Network, brings what management views as that special athlete’s perspective.
A decision on who will help to host basketball pre and postgame shows has yet to be determined.
I’ll try to be as careful as I can with I type next, because I don’t want this to come off as being disparaging to Glenn, who can be a very engaging person. Nor do I want this to come off as sour grapes, the slighted media guy angry because he’s out of a gig. But since I’ve made reference to the dynamic in past Media Watch columns, it seems disingenuous not to include it here.
Not always, but usually, adding a former athlete to the broadcast is rarely a move that incorporates actual insight. The position is supposed to provide the listener access into the mind of a performer before, during and after the game. What’s being discussed? How are they preparing? What do they do and how do they react during big game sequences? What are the various personality traits and dynamics? These are things a former athlete could allegedly provide. After all, they at one point had unique access and an understanding of the competitive psyche not available to members of the media.
Instead, the former athlete generally utilizes the forum by doubling down on a litany of tired sports clichés while being an apologist for the home team when things aren’t going well.
Brad, Rob and I were not apologists. We may have differed on the severity of the performance or a given situation that didn’t go as well as we thought it should, but we took pride in presenting our broadcasts in a way that valued our take on objectivity. Brad and I graduated from the UA. Rob loves the Wildcats, and has lived in Tucson most of his life. As broadcasters, we wanted to see the UA do well. But when they didn’t, we weren’t going to sugarcoat it either.
But in the off-season, once 1290 and IMG, the network that produces UA sporting events, re-upped on a renewal portion of the contract that runs until 2019, IMG has also included a series of requests to try to use the flagship station as a branding platform for Wildcat athletics. It’s certainly possible that the Brad and Schu version of call-it-like-we-see-it objectivity didn’t jive with the way IMG wants to brand the product.
“I respect what you guys have done and the work that you’ve put in, but I feel like we just need to try something else and go in a different direction,” Crowe said.
Even though, with us at the helm, Wildcat pre and postgame broadcasts got better numbers and drew more traffic to the website than any station in the cluster other than KIIM 99.5 FM, the country station that leads the market in listenership.
Not to toot our own horn, but here’s what 1290 gave up. Brad Allis has covered UA athletics in some capacity for the better part of the last 20 years. He is a recruiting expert who has sifted through an obscene amount of video for the purposes of understanding and interpreting what strengths and weaknesses a player possesses before they come into the program, and how they might benefit the program upon their arrival. He is also a walking depth chart encyclopedia and possesses a historical knowledge of the program matched by only a handful of people. And none of that handful is doing commentary on the radio.
In his personal life, Brad and his wife involved themselves in raising foster children and recently adopted twins. They don’t know it now, but those are two of the luckiest kids in town, even if their dad is going to have to struggle a bit harder to help to make ends meet because the radio station decided his knowledge no longer served the kind of purpose they required.
I have somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 years of radio experience and another quarter century in print journalism. A lot of that has taken place in Tucson, and much of it has focused on covering UA football, men’s basketball and the university’s other successful sports pursuits. I know what I’m doing, I’m good at it, and know how to bring it across in a way that’s valuable to listeners.
Speaking of whom, the listeners have played an immense role in making that show a blast. It was a fun gig, and I really enjoyed doing it. I relished the audience participation, and valued the many more folks who made the effort to listen on their way to and from the game, whether they loved us, hated us, or were generally neutral. Just to take the time to find some value in what we delivered means more than I can express here.
I can tell you first hand, that played a big role, whether we started a pregame show at 6am for a 10 o’clock matchup that featured the UA on the east coast or remained on the air until 2:30 am following a late-night Fox Sports or ESPN made-for-TV start time. Or say, last December 15, when our day started around 7 with the UA football team’s bowl game against Nevada, and concluded around two am after sharing the excitement of Arizona’s miraculous gridiron win and last-second victory over highly-ranked Florida. That was a rush.
I’m not naïve to the ways of the business. I’ve covered stories about better radio talent losing their jobs, and they had much larger listener segments than I could fathom, and in the process meant more to the fabric of the community. But the product moves on. Occasionally, their names come up in a “where are they now” sort of way.
Even though the ego is a bit bruised I’m also well aware the pre and postgame broadcasts will progress just fine. Rob knows the drill. He’s been doing the show a long time. He knows what to expect and will perform this portion of his seemingly ever-increasing workload extraordinarily well.
Kevin Woodman has next to no formal radio experience, and is a major market talent who has a chance to make a lot of money in a business where less and less people are doing so.
And again, Glenn Howell is a good guy, and while I think he’s going to realize that filling time on the radio and continuing to come off as engaging and informative isn’t as easy as it might seem—segment after segment after segment—he has excellent contacts with the football program, is very likable and will provide numerous listeners with a perspective they’ll enjoy.
The show will go on. And I’ll listen.
It was a phenomenal privilege to be a part of it.
This article appears in Aug 8-14, 2013.

Without Brad and you, the show will go from 2nd to dead last in the market. Period.
1290 has lost two listeners. My husband and I will never listen to any of their programming again because of this move. Good luck to you, Schu, and Brad. I hope someone out there gives you both awesome jobs and you can flip the bird to the idiots at Cumulus.
“…Herb Crowe took the time to call Brad Allis and I …”
Good thing you are primarily a broadcaster since “I” is the wrong pronoun in this usage.
Herb took the time to call I ??
It’s good to know I’m not the only pronoun geek out here. Really – no irony intended.
Wow @ the last 2 comments.. that’s all you have to say after that article? Gotta love the comments section for an online publication. Always find the most “interesting” people and takes -_____- Douchebaggery at its finest.
I worked with Brad and Schu for about five years on the ore and post game show. Always amazed at their knowledge and insight. I’m sure Tucson listeners are going to miss them. As an aside, did I use “I” correctly?
Pre and post. Dumb spellcheck.
Please agree to come back when management realizes the knowledge and passion they’ve let go. Loved listening to you guys.
I won’t tune back in. I used to listen from Portland.
You two were the main reason to listen to that station. Neither Lance or Kevin provide any real insight. When I listen to the “House” I get aggravated as I get the feeling I am listening to two guys who have no superior knowledge of sports then the guy standing in the checkout line at Walmart. That’s OK, but I can do that with my buddies. When I listen, I expect to hear some good insight. They have little. You guys had a lot.
What does this mean for Nate?
Good luck to both of you. Assinign moves like this only prove once again that the folks in charge of the radio medium know nothing about running it. Exactly why I will never be a part of it again. Terristrial radio blows!
Kick him while he’s down!!!
“…Rob has teamed with Brad and I …”
Good thing you are primarily a broadcaster since “I” is the wrong pronoun in this usage.
Rob has teamed with I??
Despite what your mother told you, you must use “me” as a direct object or an object of a preposition (with)
Look at the general quality of radio in Tucson and it will be very apparent that forward thinking and solid decision making are not found in abundance among radio manangers. Seems to me quality, objective reporting and discussion make for a pretty good brand. But what do we know.
I won’t be listening to 1290 much at all, they’ve really geared the show to the dumbest listeners. 1290, the leader in the race to the bottom.
James hit it on the head with his comment, “When I listen to Rob and Kevin, I actually feel like I know more about sports than what they bring to the table”. Both Kevin and Rob seem like great guys, but they offer no unique insight, and I guess Herb Crowe felt that he needed to double down on this by making them the hosts of the pre and post game shows, with an added dose of dumb jock thrown into the mix.
Just what Tucson needs, even less insight into news and sports reporting. Yuck. And if UA feels it needs more propaganda, I will not be renewing my Wildcat Club membership next year. Hey UA – go sell Groupthink somewhere else, we’re all full up.
I think it’s time for a podcast. Sell advertising there. Make up the money you’re losing from this ridiculous decision by Cumulus.
What a sham, or is it “a shame?” Pardon my lack of grammar skills.
I feel as though I’ve lost a couple of good friends.
This “new direction” philosophy has me perplexed. Does upper management wish to head south for a good reason? Is this the movie “Major League,” but with an epic fail ending (ie. a win for management)? I’m not the greatest of business minds, but I would venture to say, “NO.”
I really feel for Brad and Schu, not to mention our sporting community. What a slap in the face this is to all.
Shame on Cumulus for removing two of the most knowledgable, skillful personalities (true talent) from our local radio dial.
Bitterman
John D. Bitterman said “I feel as though I’ve lost a couple of good friends.”
I feel the same way. I actually feel really sad about this change. I loved listening to Brad and Schu, and I’ll really miss having them around for radio greatness this season (and every season that follows).
This was a horrible decision from Cumulus. I like Rob and Kevin okay-enough…although Kevin has made it clear whilst on In The House that he basically has no interest in Wildcats sports…but I won’t listen to them. I know more about UA football and basketball than Rob and Kevin.
I hope the ratings tank.
1290 sucks in general. for 10 years they’ve run overlapping commercials. who manages the crappy station? if it ain’t broke, yeah go fix it. i listen because i’m a cat fan. schu is the best, very knowledgeable and insightful. brad not quite as sharp but incredibly knowledgeable. woodman doesn’t do his homework and barely keeps up minimally with ua sports. lance is smug but a bit smarter and more knowledgeable. they both interject too much of their own crap, antiquated political views, lance’s steeler love. who cares? i’ve seem howell comment on tv a few times. not impressive. ugh. jody o. was much better than the regular in the house crew. got a ton more calls because he actually talked about the sports people care about. i would love for schu to get that gig, would be a loyal listener.
after listening to the first hour of the pregame show. i already don’t like this glenn howell guy.
This is the absolute stupidest decision that could have been made. I have lived in a number of different cities throughout the West and John and Brad are my 2 single favorite local sports voices I have heard. Rob is fine as someone who allows Brad and Schu to speak, but not as the focal point of the show. They fired the “talent” and they don’t even know it. So sad.