Rick Spanier 
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Re: “Primary Vote Numbers Don't Look Good For Arizona Democrats

When prognosticating, ignore the largest voting block at your own risk. The "silent plurality" of independent voters can and probably will sway the coming election. If independents turnout actually is a low as projected (10%), that amounts to over 100,000 voters coming to the polls with no stated preference. This year, turnout may well be higher and the role of independent voters more significant. Ignoring over 35% of eligible voters renders analysis meaningless.

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 09/01/2018 at 2:26 PM

Re: “The Skinny

Tomorrow, John McCain will be laid to rest. eulogized by former political foes and presidents. Yesterday, I listened to Joe Biden and others remember a friend and ally they were not ashamed to say they loved and deeply admired. I cannot add to those remarkable comments, I never met the Senator and never voted for him. But at times he made me laugh and made me angry and he always had my respect for what he endured and for the life he led. I think that says a lot and I believe I am not alone.

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 08/31/2018 at 8:05 AM

Re: “Danehy

It's not that Trump is dumb, he's not. Trump ups the ante with gaslighting, essentially rendering facts and truth to quaint notions. Alternate facts. Don't believe what you see and hear. The press is the enemy of the people. The economy is the strongest ever in history but we have to cut federal pay raises because they are too great a drain on the fragile economy. I never said that (despite there he is on tape saying that). We've had dumb presidents in the past, feel free to nominate your own but I will go with GW Bush. We survive dumb - the cards are in the air if we can afford Orwellian carnival barkers.

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 08/31/2018 at 7:37 AM

Re: “Danehy

Must admit to a bit of cognitive dissonance when balancing Danehy's admonition not to say anything too provocative (Abolish Ice) with labeling Trump The Giant Illiterate Turd.

Say what?

Detractors should mildly respond to the federal government's kidnapping young children, separating them from their parents, holding them hostage (and apparently as of today, losing many of them entirely). Instead, we should maunder about seeking a middle ground where we can all agree to be non-provocative while joining hands and singing Kumbayah?

If you haven't noticed, Tom, there is no center today, only tribes of snipers. Problem is the bad guys show up with really exotic rifles while your good sensible folks show up with fistfuls of wilted kale.

Nah, Abolish Ice.

The mere suggestion drives the Giant Illiterate Turd even more insane and gives nervous liberals a serious case of the vapors.

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 07/20/2018 at 3:30 PM

Re: “Danehy

My original post was intended as a rebuttal to Danehy's excusing Clinton's loss to Trump to "the deplorables" alleged idiocy, misogyny, and racism. My point was simply many independent voters (and not just a few Democrats) where sickened by Clinton's engineered nomination despite her lack of appeal, her dithering on issues of importance to the base, her intimacy with Wall Street and her casual relationship with the truth. Trump's election may have come as a shock to many but others saw the passion and excitement of two candidates, Trump and Sanders.

I did. So did a friend of mine who is apolitical but loves the theater (bring on the brew and the popcorn!).

Trump ran a better campaign, read the mood of the nation's voters and was elected president with a healthy share of the electoral college votes. No magical thinking (impeachment, 25th amendment, indictment for collusion with Russia) will overcome the current state of affairs. No excuses (Russian involvement, Comey, misogyny) matter.

So yes, I am angry and disgusted by this president and the circus of horrors he plays ringmaster to every day. But, ultimately, the Democratic Party has only itself to blame for making Clinton's nomination inevitable. By honoring a political deal for a do-over after her second most embarrassing political loss - to Obama for the nomination in 2008 - the party apparatus placed the nation at risk and is now suffering the consequences.

Back to Danehy's profound loss of respect for a former friend who signed on with the dark side. Maybe this friend was, in reality, nothing more than a familiar acquaintance. I'm pretty sure we all have true friends who've done something we consider stupid and out of character. But to write them off because of political differences, even differences as significant as the current muck we are drowning in is telling.

Maybe Tom's and my own understandings of friendship are categorically different. If a friend of mine shoots my dog, he will no longer be my friend. If she votes differently than me, even for someone I detest, we will both get over it.

Because we are friends.

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 07/07/2018 at 7:52 AM

Re: “Danehy

And in the true Alice in Wonderland repartee seen on these boards, we have one anonymous poster (CW13) being attacked by another anonymous poster (CW13 falls again!).

I do appreciate that neither has opted for the familiar sentence-length pseudonym like "Fed up with current illiberal state of affairs but too afraid to use my name because someone may get mad at me and call my employer or sister."

Grow up.

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 07/06/2018 at 3:06 PM

Re: “Danehy

Tom opens with a bit of sophistry - literary legerdemain - if you stretch "literary" a bit. Clinton, Tom notes, was a crappy candidate - so far we are on the same page. But here is the twist, the slight of hand:

"They (pissed off white voters) voted the way they did because they sincerely hated the Crappy One. They hated the fact that she wore pantsuits, that she used words with multiple syllables in them, and that she didn't seem to share their nightmare vision of a brown tidal wave sweeping across America's southern border."

Nope. It ain't me, babe.

Many (including Danahey's despised independents - like myself) didn't care a whit about Hillary's lack of sartorial splendor, do enjoy a well-turned phrase and cogent argument, and celebrate our nation's diversity as a fountain of renewal. So why did we despise and distrust Hillary?

She took millions from Wall Street denizens for "speeches." She and her former POTUS husband ran a monumental pay for play scheme linking her position as Secretary of State to Bill's Clinton Global Initiative. She foolishly thought she could hide behind a private email server in her basement while serving in her capacity as SOS. She was as authentic and compelling as a garden gnome in the Louvre.

Feel free to add to the list of attributes that made Hillary, in the end, a deplorable candidate.

And the rest, as they say, is history. The only Democrat remotely capable of losing the presidency, and our national reputation, to a bloviating, hate-speaking carnival barker with a business record that includies the nearly impossible task of managing to bankrupt casinos accomplished just that.

Yeah, I am one pissed off white guy. I am pissed at the hubris and sense of entitlement and machinations that resulted in Clinton's nomination and the subsequent coronation of a village idiot as president. I am pissed that my grandchildren will be living in a world that has witnessed the decline and fall of their country leaving them to scramble for clean air, water and opportunity.

Thanks Hillary. Thanks Debbie. Thanks Super Delegates. Thanks DNC. And don't let the door bruise your collective butts on the way out.

You were saying something, Tom?

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 07/06/2018 at 2:11 PM

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