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Re: “The Skinny

VICTOR E -
You are delusional if you think that anything said by Comey proved that 45 was not involved in collusion with Russia. When asked that question, Comey referred the Senate Intelligence Committee to Special Counsel Mueller. In no way did he say that 45 was innocent, nor did he say that 45 was not under investigation. 45's attorney was lying through his teeth when he claimed that Comey's testimony vindicated 45; it definitely did not.

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Posted by Darren on 06/11/2017 at 4:13 PM

Re: “Doug Ducey, CEO

The "AVERAGE" pay for teachers in Arizona is $46-$49K per annum? Could you provide your sources for that figure? When I served on a public school Site Council in Arizona, in a school with unusually high faculty retention rates, with teachers who had been teaching for decades, some of them not too many years from retirement, there were no salaries on the salary schedule we reviewed that were higher than the high $40s. And you say that's the "average" salary?

"All this talk about salaries is about something with absolutely no meaning to education other than to distract. A much more meaningful discussion would be to determine why teacher job satisfaction in this nation has plummeted over the last 10 years?"

Let's pay physicians what we pay teachers. What would that do to our health care system? We would see, as we've seen in teaching in this state, a drastic drop in the number of people willing to do the job. But perhaps that analogy may not be acceptable to state level decision makers, in a context where many of the assumptions underlying their education policy seem to be fantasy-land throwbacks to outmoded forms of family structure and non-existent conditions in family economics.

Talk to teachers. They can't even offset the expense of working with what they are paid. Many of them have stayed home with their own children during the preschool years to support their children's optimal social, emotional, and intellectual development -- an expensive choice. When they consider returning to the workforce, they often find themselves back at the bottom of the salary ladder for teaching jobs, with no credit granted on the salary scale for previous years worked in the field. When they take into account the services they would have to pay for to replace the labor they are removing from their households if they take a teaching job, the salary is barely break-even. It's a net loss if they do what most I know do -- pay for some of the unfunded supplies their students need out of their own pockets. There is ZERO or LESS THAN ZERO financial benefit to doing the job. So if they find they are in a position where they need to contribute to the family's savings for the children's college educations (and fewer and fewer these days find themselves NOT in that position) they take on higher paying work in another field.

Perhaps the teachers our state legislators like to talk to are the wives of plutocrats. Those are the only teachers who have the luxury of taking only job satisfaction, not salary levels, into account when deciding whether or not to fill one of the thousands of open teaching positions in this state. Sorry to disappoint RE the likely results of recent reductions in credentialing requirements, but given what the current income distribution is in this state, I think you'll find that there aren't enough college-educated wives of plutocrats around who can afford a net loss in the salary vs. expense ledger and want to do work as difficult as teaching is, even when you make it easier for them to do so by ensuring they don't have to "waste" time in any of the teacher preparation programs which seem to be regarded by our state legislators as bastions of lefty group-think rather than as dispensers of valid professional knowledge.

It's hard to make out what kind of a value system and world view is behind education policy in this state, but it's definitely not real world economic analysis that fuels it. Connections could be drawn between our education policy and the desire to return to Father-Knows-Best and Leave-It-to-Beaver land, when women whose husbands were the main wage earners might choose to work in exchange for "job satisfaction" rather than in exchange for the type of salaries college-educated professionals in other fields earn. But in those days higher education costs were much less as a percentage of average family income and the only jobs available to women were teacher / nurse / secretary, drastically and artificially limiting available options.

"The legislature can only control the average salary, not the shortage salary?"

This statement doesn't even make sense. The legislature controls how much funding is available to schools. The legislature's budget cuts are part of the background behind insupportable, destructive cost-saving measures like outsourcing substitute teacher labor and destroying long term subs' ability to qualify for benefits, what we saw recently in TUSD, a district serving more than 40K students in schools with an unusually high number of permanent teacher vacancies. The legislature can't "control" that? They caused it and / or permitted and / or encouraged it, both through budget cuts and through disastrous failures of oversight and regulatory negligence and through the encouragement of privatization practices.

Is there any use in responding to some of the talking points in these streams? Perhaps not, but it's hard not to express incredulity.

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Posted by Expressing incredulity. on 06/11/2017 at 3:15 PM

Re: “Food For Cause

I enjoyed and appreciate this article, but I get increasingly tired of Tucson Weekly not linking to outside sources. Even Stevens has a website: evenstevens.com
Peixoto coffee, The Community Food Bank, Tucson Neighborhood Food Pantry, Interfaith Community Services, and St. Vincent de Paul also have websites and social media accounts!

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Posted by Cyndil Smith on 06/11/2017 at 12:26 PM

Re: “Doug Ducey, CEO

No, the vacancy rate does not "speak for itself." At the average pay for teachers in Arizona, $46,000 to $49,000 there would absolutely be no shortage of teachers. If placed in an open offer, people would line up in long lines to participate in that salary. There would be no shortage of teachers.

That vacancy rate takes place when teachers are paid $26,000 to $30,000. The legislature can only control the average salary, not the shortage salary.

All this talk about salaries is about something with absolutely no meaning to education other than to distract. A much more meaningful discussion would be to determine why teacher job satisfaction in this nation has plummeted over the last 10 years and how we can create more value and job satisfaction for teachers.

We don't even know which school districts have the highest teacher job satisfaction and how they achieve it.

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 06/11/2017 at 12:04 PM

Re: “The Skinny

"Let's pass this fuckin' thing!" McSally blaming Trump is like Roy Cohn blaming Joe McCarthy.

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Posted by Jimmy Zuma on 06/11/2017 at 5:27 AM

Re: “Lamer Lame Lame

I saw it. A 21st-century version of "Network" it ain't.

Posted by Ex-Arizonan on 06/11/2017 at 12:16 AM

Re: “The Skinny

She's voting to gut Dodd Frank and dismantle the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau because both stop banks from ripping off consumers.

Wells Fargo case, those new wire transfer protections, rules banning auto lenders from tapping into military pay...all from CFPB.

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Posted by KatieS on 06/10/2017 at 6:53 PM

Re: “The Skinny

Uh patty? What about OBAMA'S PRESIDENCY WAS OVER do you not understand? Why did he leave office? He had no choice. You think whiners like McSally would have let him stay? No they wanted Trump. Well now they have him. I dont know what news source you read, but my news source is the United States Constitution. I also know for a fact that even though his presidency is up. He didnt just walk away and leave us to Trumps crap. He protected us in a few ways that Trump cannot alter. Obama has gone above and beyond for his country and every one of us. So before condemning please make sure your argument is valid. You sound just like McSally. If Obamas aca that made sure everyone had healthcare and no ins. could raise or deny coverage for preexisting conditions or the part where your employer had to cover your ins. Messed your medical up, Then, wow are you going to be in a heck of a lot of trouble if Trumps Deathmed goes thru.Obama care needs tweaking. Thats to be expected, changes occur, somethings become obsolete. The answer is not repeal or to replace Obamacare but to adjust where any deficiencies occur. The only reason for Trumps Deathmed is because Trump is blind with jealousy for Obama and he is trying to undue all of the protections Obama gave us and also to give corporations their outrageous tax cuts. Republicans are pushing it for the same reason.Money,money,money,and McSally is just as guilty as all the other republicans that are to greedy to stand against him.

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Posted by Stop the lies.. RESIST on 06/10/2017 at 2:48 PM

Re: “God On Our Side

please - you didn't note the times the play is showing or give a phone number -

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Posted by NE needs culture, food, etc. on 06/10/2017 at 2:08 PM

Re: “The Skinny

Martha McSally continues her denial about her own lack of responsiveness to her own constituents. I live in her district and I didn't even find out about her hastily assembled "tele-town Hall" a few months ago because the notice seemed to only go out to Republican constituents.

When I called in she touted the then party-line that "the protesters were paid." Having marched outside her office on many days, I can attest to the fact that no one I know of the hundreds of protesters were paid.

What hurts McSally much more than being tied to Trump is that she appears to hold her constituents in contempt. She only makes pro forma efforts to reach out under duress, and then behind what she thinks are closed doors she trivializes our concerns.

In 2018 we of what is currently known as "Martha McSallly's district" intend to elect someone who represents us and does not demean us. McSally could be that person, but she's got to start being responsive to our constituents. To date, she has shown no interest in doing so.

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Posted by Larry DeLuca on 06/10/2017 at 12:35 PM

Re: “Song of the Day: Billy Sedlmayr Digs Deep Into Classic Velvet Trou for Some Monster Tommy Bolin!

I saw Bolin play with Deep Purple in Salt Lake City once -- remarkable performer, and even through a so-so PA he had an amazing guitar sound.

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Posted by Firsttimecaller on 06/10/2017 at 9:00 AM

Re: “Doug Ducey, CEO

The vacancy rate speaks for itself, without an opinion survey.

Take it from the many fully trained teachers in this state who would be working in the field if the net annual compensation would pay even a fraction of the astronomically inflated per annum cost of enrolling their own children in quality 4-year universities, including public universities, which in this state were intended to be "as nearly free as possible." Is estimated annual cost of attendance at the University of Arizona of $25K per annum "as nearly free as possible"? Only when the legislature is derelict in its duty to support the state's public programs of higher education.

Treating education as a commodity and teachers as a low skill, low pay, easily-replaceable-with-untrained-strike-breaker labor pool is having and will continue to have disastrous effects on our schools, our young people, and our teachers.

We do need to increase funding. If we do so, I hope funding will be increased together with responsible oversight of how funds are applied, so the increase will actually benefit students and teachers, and will be sustainable and renewable.

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Posted by Higher pay increases retention and supports competence. on 06/10/2017 at 8:55 AM

Re: “Desert Ordeal

If your religion tells you to let people die in the desert because they committed the horrible "sin" of trying to survive then your religion is wrong. You efforts to seriously try to invoke your ridiculous idea of "god" as justification for such hatred is right up there with those others you hate so much for their "hateful" religion.

And if you don't have a single religious motive but still think allowing people to die in the desert is OK, then you certainly have no heart and are an evil person.

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Posted by Allen Charles on 06/10/2017 at 8:40 AM

Re: “The Skinny

Sadly, Frank Mansell, I've listened to the tape and your supposed good looks don't get a mention. Here's the full recording for anyone else who'd like to give it a listen: http://www.indivisiblesaz.org/multimedia/

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Posted by Janni on 06/10/2017 at 8:26 AM

Re: “Doug Ducey, CEO

Also, a massive teacher job satisfaction measure showed Arizona to fare no different than the rest of the nation. Higher pay does not produce greater teacher job satisfaction.

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 06/10/2017 at 8:20 AM

Re: “The Skinny

There is a very simple solution for Republicans worried that Trump will cost them their seats: Stop being horrible.

You know better than to support him and the absurd policies this administration and its willing lapdog GOP Congress put forward. Even if you don't have the moral sense to know better, basic facts should help you make the right decision. This is not rocket science. A healthcare bill with an 18% approval rating should not even be a hard call for you people, so why is it? Repealing the law that sought to prevent Wall Street from decimating people's retirement accounts? Probably not a great message to send to voters who got stung by the 2008 Wall Street collapse and bailout while bankers got away scot-free and with more money.* Infrastructure bill that focuses on shoveling dollars to cronies rather than fixing our infrastructure and creating jobs? The public is not quite as stupid as you think they are. So grow a pair and try representing the actual people of your districts rather than your wealthy donors for once. Promise this will work!

*Reported in Forbes this week--the bonus pool for Wall Street execs exceeds the total earnings of minimum wage workers across the country. And you wonder why people are angry at you guys--both parties?

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Posted by Pongo1 on 06/10/2017 at 8:15 AM

Re: “The Skinny

McSally, grow up and put your big girl R panties on. Stop riding the fence or go away.

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Posted by Annette Shepherd on 06/10/2017 at 7:57 AM

Re: “The Skinny

You can always spot the religious wacko shills when they start talking about Iran getting money. Take your bronze age fairy tales elsewhere.

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Posted by David N on 06/10/2017 at 12:43 AM

Re: “The Skinny

Ms. McSally, what is "being taken out on you" is in fact your own voting record - which happens to be 100% in line with the president's agenda. Personally, I am opposed to everything he stands for and I will use my constitutional right to call, write and show up at your office - which is actually MY office and that of the 700,000 constituents that live in your district.
You work for US and we will hold those feet to the fire every time we see something we don't like.

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Posted by Gina Reyes on 06/09/2017 at 10:33 PM

Re: “Food For Cause

A nice , informative , awesome , review!
Love, MOM

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Posted by Pamm Ferris on 06/09/2017 at 7:02 PM

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