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Re: “Foggy Forecast

Inform tRump and the Republicans how they can personally make BILLIONS from marijuana sales and they will approve it in a heartbeat as a harmless intoxicant with healing properties.

3 likes, 3 dislikes
Posted by Beneal Good on 10/05/2017 at 5:33 AM

Re: “UA's OSIRIS-REx slingshots past Earth

This is a project that should make all Southern Arizonans proud of the work being done at the University of Arizona.

Posted by Jeffrey Patten on 10/05/2017 at 3:26 AM

Re: “Gabby Giffords on Las Vegas Mass Shooting: "This Must Stop"

Well, that was stupid. Next?

25 likes, 9 dislikes
Posted by Peabo on 10/04/2017 at 9:53 PM

Re: “Why I Keep Writing About Those Damn AzMERIT Scores

I agree with you. But your writing uses too much narrative. TLDR.

1 like, 0 dislikes
Posted by jabberw0ck on 10/04/2017 at 7:45 PM

Re: “The Best Way To Get Results-Based Funding Is To Be Well-Off and White

Bottom line is you cant establish credibility as a supporter of EQUITY only by criticizing your political opponents policies. You have to prove that your political allies are capable of implementing equitable policies when they are calling the shots. Neither the policies and administrative actions promoted under the previous Democratic Board majority in TUSD Grijalva-Foster-Juarez (which included twice putting forward a patently inequitable Fruchthendler-Sabino pipeline plan) nor some of the actions contemplated by the current Board configuration (which include giving selective-admissions-University-High-School a separete site and removing its faculty and extracurricular programming resources from the Rincon High School campus where a non-selective neighborhood cohort currently shares them) can be understood to be making EQUITABLE access to excellent education a priority in district planning. If you listen to district reps explain the rationale behind their decisions, its not too hard to discern the pervasive, governing idea: Were desperate! Increase enrollment and suck more children into this operation by any means possible equity be damned if it interferes with us attracting more kids, especially when the kids we attract through inequitable programs we introduce can raise our test scores.

Its an ugly spectacle. So again: why should a network which has this track record in TUSD ask the public for the legislature and governorship in the name of EQUITY?

Get a handle on TUSD and turn it into something whose name is not a byword for self-serving mismanagement and injustice, and then come back and ask for control of the state, in the name of EQUITY.

9 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by And the best way to get your way in TUSD is to be...? on 10/04/2017 at 3:05 PM

Re: “Gabby Giffords on Las Vegas Mass Shooting: "This Must Stop"

We've always had lax gun laws. Indeed, our gun laws now are stricter than they've been during most of modern American history. But we haven't always had mass casualty attacks at this frequency. So guns can't be causing this. What's causing this is general cultural decay, a loss of faith, morality, and a sense of community. No one wants to talk about any of that, however, so we look for easier solutions.

8 likes, 31 dislikes
Posted by Nathan K on 10/04/2017 at 11:29 AM

Re: “The Best Way To Get Results-Based Funding Is To Be Well-Off and White

Yes, this is a stupid way of allocating funding within a states public education system and next year it will become stupider. State legislatures have the power to tamper with public education policy in dangerous, inadvisable ways.

So what now? I suppose your goal is to use the information presented here and elsewhere to get Democrats into the legislature and governorship.

Would a Democrat-controlled Arizona solve our problems with public ed or make education more equitable? Watch a TUSD Board meeting and ask yourself the question. Three of the five board members are or were Democrats. In last nights meeting, you can observe discussions of why the district seems to be moving in the direction of kicking Catalina High students off their campus and moving them to Rincon so University High School can have their site. The presenters on this topic were representatives of a committee composed primarily of a UHS faculty, parents, and alums. If I recall correctly, there were no representatives of Catalina High School on the committee, and representatives of Catalina High School were only notified at 1pm the day of this TUSD Board meeting that UHS would be presenting the recommendation to the TUSD Board that Catalina High School be kicked off of its site so UHS could have it.

Equity in action in TUSD.

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Posted by How do we solve equity problems? on 10/04/2017 at 10:14 AM

Re: “The Best Way To Get Results-Based Funding Is To Be Well-Off and White

Stop with the racist excuses and let's take a look at the facts.

This is shameful TUSD. Our children deserve better.

9 likes, 11 dislikes
Posted by Wayne Olson on 10/04/2017 at 9:20 AM

Re: “Why I Keep Writing About Those Damn AzMERIT Scores

There are a couple of logical questions I have for you.

1. How is the incentive to cheat any different than with grades? If a test with stakes attached teaches administrators and teachers to cheat, doesn't issuing kids grades teach kids to cheat?
After all grades have high stakes attached in terms of parental judgments, grade advancement, privileges like athletics, and eventually college acceptance, scholarships and lifelong higher income. Should we eliminate grading?
2. If having a test causes teachers to teach to the test, isn't that a good thing? Provided the test is testing the right skills that we've agreed students should have and the test measures those skills effectively, then don't we want teachers "teaching to the test"? And if it's not testing the right skills or is unable to measure them, would you support testing if those problems were fixed?

2 likes, 4 dislikes
Posted by bslap on 10/04/2017 at 6:18 AM

Re: “Gabby Giffords on Las Vegas Mass Shooting: "This Must Stop"

Well, Gabby, run again... You were way better than McSally and I think Flake gets more vulnerable as he runs to the Right... like McCain always does. We need to make some changes here...

16 likes, 10 dislikes
Posted by Cascabel on 10/03/2017 at 6:47 PM

Re: “Why I Keep Writing About Those Damn AzMERIT Scores

It is true that high test scores do not necessarily mean "Excelling schools!" and low test scores do not necessarily mean "Failing schools!"

This is also true: you cannot get at the correct interpretations of what any given set of test scores means or how the educations of the students that produced those test scores might be improved simply by engaging in abstract, theoretical discussions about POVERTY and CULTURE and PRIVATIZATION.

You get at the correct interpretations of a set of test scores (and you develop an understanding of how services to the students who produced that set of scores may be improved) by tracking the details of governance, funding applications, staffing, and what specifically is happening in the classrooms, with what materials, delivered by what instructors with what kind of training, under what conditions.

Where is that kind of reporting for our largest local school district, serving more than 50,000 students? Not here, not in the Star.

While TUSD Governing Board members bicker and undermine one another and the Star wastes its time on reporting on every little detail of their infighting (and David Safier philosophizes) there are a lot of important, practical, nuts-and-bolts questions about conditions in TUSD that affect students' ability to learn and to get better test scores that are going unanswered:
--How many subs outsourced to ESI are still covering classrooms that should be covered with permanent teachers?
--What was done to abate the lead problems in drinking fountains? (Lead poisoning at certain levels does affect ability to concentrate and learn.)
--Have teachers at schools experiencing discipline problems (e.g. Secrist, Utterback) received effective training in behavior management?
--Has the amount of desegregation funding re-allocated to increased legal fees under the last TUSD administration been scaled back, and has some of it now been applied to secure more fully qualified teachers for schools with hard-to-fill positions?

Just a few examples of the kinds of questions that should be asked and answered when the goal is to improve, not excuse, test scores in TUSD.

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Posted by A prolix comment with practical questions on 10/03/2017 at 5:28 PM

Re: “Gabby Giffords on Las Vegas Mass Shooting: "This Must Stop"

President John Adams has aptly characterized what is happening in this Country:

"Democracy while it lasts is more bloody than either aristocracy or monarchy. Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide."

15 likes, 10 dislikes
Posted by Francis Saitta on 10/03/2017 at 5:49 AM

Re: “Catalina Foothills Districts Earns Bragging Rights With Its AzMERIT Scores (Or Maybe Not)

Good luck with that, David. Some of the thuggish behaviors on the local political scene may not be quite as easy to correct as you seem to assume they will be. But there is definitely merit in trying.

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Posted by The local scene will be what it is...and show itself here. on 10/02/2017 at 10:15 PM

Re: “Catalina Foothills Districts Earns Bragging Rights With Its AzMERIT Scores (Or Maybe Not)

About the abusive, profanity-laden response to you. I can't edit the comments section. I sent a note the person at the Weekly who can remove the post and haven't heard a reply. Those two comments were pure ad hominem attacks without any substance and they don't belong in the comments thread. I would have removed them if I could have. (If I don't catch something like that, you can click on "report" at the bottom left of the comment and ask for it to be removed. In this case, the comments were so out of bounds, I'm sure your request would be granted -- once the web editor had time to look at it.)

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Posted by David Safier on 10/02/2017 at 8:58 PM

Re: “Gabby Giffords on Las Vegas Mass Shooting: "This Must Stop"

Nothing will change.

20 dead first graders in sandy hook was not enough, last years benchmark of deadliest mass shooting up that point of 49 people was not enough, this event wont change anything either.

24 likes, 9 dislikes
Posted by Palisades on 10/02/2017 at 6:49 PM

Re: “Catalina Foothills Districts Earns Bragging Rights With Its AzMERIT Scores (Or Maybe Not)

Thanks, David. Good tip. If it ever becomes important to me whether you read and respond to my comments, I may take your suggestion and start using a consistent name and / or my own name. In the meantime, I'll keep posting under whatever title strikes my fancy, just like the individual who keeps writing to call me a "long winded fuck." (Your failure and the editors of these streams' failures to police that behavior: duly noted.) I'm not writing to you or to anyone else in particular, just punishing myself for all the years I spent voting for, donating to, and volunteering for candidates in your dishonest and irresponsible political party, and continuing to measure the distance between Party propaganda and what is actually true. Good mental exercise, and they / you provide plenty of material to work on. Thanks for that.

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Posted by No need to respond, David. on 10/02/2017 at 6:06 PM

Re: “Gabby Giffords on Las Vegas Mass Shooting: "This Must Stop"

Gabby Gifford's American For Responsible Solutions should consider runing ads against House & Senate NRA owned lickspittles. Ads showing them saying "thoughts & prayers" along with a graphic illustrating how much cash they've taken from the NRA over their careers.

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Posted by Wileybud on 10/02/2017 at 5:39 PM

Re: “Catalina Foothills Districts Earns Bragging Rights With Its AzMERIT Scores (Or Maybe Not)

To "Include a few more factors if you want an accurate account.": I'm more likely to pay attention to a comment which has a consistent name attached to it. This doesn't mean a real name, just something which, when I see it, I can put it in context of other comments by the same person. If this is your first comment on The Range, I apologize for thinking you might be a returning commenter.

Of course, you're free to continue using a different name as a headline each time, but when someone addresses me directly, I assume that person wants me to read what's written. I'll still exercise the option of reading as much or as little as I wish, but like I say, I'm more apt to take something seriously when I can put it in context of previous comments by the same person.

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Posted by David Safier on 10/02/2017 at 4:42 PM

Re: “Gabby Giffords on Las Vegas Mass Shooting: "This Must Stop"

Grow a pair, Wayne.

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Posted by Peabo on 10/02/2017 at 4:00 PM

Re: “Gabby Giffords on Las Vegas Mass Shooting: "This Must Stop"

Why not wait until we have some details about the shooter, the weapons, some more facts, and the possibility that these weapons already were illegal?

Then start by outlawing hate. I see plenty of it right here in the comments section.

23 likes, 37 dislikes
Posted by Wayne Olson on 10/02/2017 at 3:06 PM

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