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Re: “The Skinny

To call Mary Matiella an accountant for the Federal Government does her a huge disservice. If you go to her Wikipedia page you will see that the person you call a Federal Government Accountant oversaw a $4 billion annual budget for the National Forest Service as our NFS Chief Financial Officer. She then was the Assistant Secretary of the Army and retired from that position with the civilian equivalent of a 4 star general. A Tucsonan from the age of 6 weeks I think you need to give credit where credit is due.
Meet Mary and you will see she is the one we need to represent CD2

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Posted by Jane Evans on 10/17/2017 at 9:04 PM

Re: “Koch Brothers Infiltrate Pima County Schools With a High School Econ Course

RE the coaching Putnam-Hidalgo received above on how public institutions can have their Transparency cake and eat it too:

It would be a shame if we had additional TUSD converts to Realpolitik and machine-style pragmatism in the coming months.

The neglect of public standards and moral compromises made to forward partisan agendas undermine the strength of public institutions and make them extremely vulnerable to external critique. Within the last few years, the conspicuous process and transparency rot associated with some of our larger local public institutions has persuaded several previously committed supporters of public education that TUSD is a lost cause and choice policy is necessary.

Can advocacy groups that promote the ongoing validity of the public district system be strong enough to call for consistency in public process, even when it means asking for it from allies? Or will they be co-opted by exceptions made for friends in the network and the overall opacity that supports partisan agendas getting rooted in public institutions?

(FYI, Safier: a process of administrative approval (not Board approval) for new curricular materials may empower individual teachers and schools, but process in public institutions is supposed to PROTECT CITIZENS FROM ABUSE, not empower individual teachers and schools. If you object to your kid undergoing what you would consider Freedom Institute brainwashing in a high school social studies course, you have to respect your conservative neighbors right not to have their child taught that Republicans hate Latinos. It cuts both ways (or, more properly, many ways) in public institutions in a pluralistic society. Public review and comment processes protect public trust in public institutions by making sure instructional materials are balanced and fair and give accurate (not tendentiously skewed) information about what various political groups believe and promote as public policy.)

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Posted by Partisan curricula break down public trust in public ed. on 10/17/2017 at 2:16 PM

Re: “Koch Brothers Infiltrate Pima County Schools With a High School Econ Course

But, if they did graduate as political idiots, the Democrats could hold onto their votes. Works in Chicago, it can work here.

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Posted by Wayne Olson on 10/17/2017 at 2:07 PM

Re: “Take Full Advantage of Being a Few Hours Away from These Towns in Sonora

A positive report please about the 1 and 2 roads and pictures of the roads that are being paved that go into Sasabe , Sonora , and the positive effect on Sasabe , Sonora. And the border station.

Posted by Gene Sky on 10/17/2017 at 1:48 PM

Re: “Koch Brothers Infiltrate Pima County Schools With a High School Econ Course

Good for the Kochs! Now somebody should fund a revival of Civics classes so our students aren't political idiots when they graduate.

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Posted by Was a Teacher on 10/17/2017 at 10:40 AM

Re: “Koch Brothers Infiltrate Pima County Schools With a High School Econ Course

Any new curricular adoption should be approved by the board of a democratically controlled district in a public process, with opportunity for public review of curricular materials and public feedback. If this process is not used, the public is not being given the opportunity to understand what is being taught in a "public" institution, and you cannot advertise "transparency" as a virtue that makes public school districts superior to other forms of education (charters, privates).

Yes, it has become pro-forma in TUSD and perhaps in other districts that there are many non-transparent ways of making decisions which should be made at the Board level: for example, by embedding them in district administrations or in Site Council meetings which almost no one other than Site Council members ever attend, and which get little or no coverage from the local media. These are practices that need reform, and not only in instances where the Koch brothers have used them (just as some assert that the creators of MAS used them) to slip politically tendentious classes into the high school curriculum.

David Safier will always turn any concern with process around to try to find a way of saying a process can only be declared wrong when it is used to forward the cause of his political opponents. In this, HE is wrong. And the saddest thing about his dishonest and irresponsible method of argument is that in being selective about defending proper process and transparency, he and others like him utterly wash away the ground on which we should all be standing together as citizens when we object to interest groups manipulating our public institutions.

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Posted by Looking for Consistency in Process & Transparency on 10/17/2017 at 10:18 AM

Re: “Board of Supes Set To Discuss Christy Proposal for Countywide Sales Tax for Roads

As long as it also supports other modes of transportation. Car-scaled infrastructure is too expensive to maintain in the long run.

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Posted by bslap on 10/17/2017 at 7:13 AM

Re: “Koch Brothers Infiltrate Pima County Schools With a High School Econ Course

Betts, my understanding is, the course was approved, not by the board but by the office of the assistant superintendent in charge of curriculum. Based on my experience as a high school teacher, that's not surprising. Teachers often recommend new courses they want to teach. If they're approved by the school's curriculum director and principal, they're sent to the district administration for approval, which is generally granted. That process makes sense to me, both for efficiency and for empowering individual teachers and schools. I don't know the process that went into approving the course at the other three local districts.

I don't think the problem is with the process, or with TUSD and the other districts. The problem is, the system was gamed by the folks at the Freedom Center. They exploited a normal trait in school districts to slip a course they created into high schools. Now it's time for the boards to take a hard look at the courses and decide if they belong in their district curriculum.

I would rather have something like this happen, then correct it, than tighten up the procedure of approving new courses and take power and authority away from the individual schools by making them jump through more administrative hoops to gain course approval. If the procedure is tightened up, it should be in a limited way -- say, if there are red flags about the suggested new course originating outside of the district, then it should be looked at more carefully and the board should be involved.

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Posted by David Safier on 10/17/2017 at 6:52 AM

Re: “Board of Supes Set To Discuss Christy Proposal for Countywide Sales Tax for Roads

Maybe we should just add a special sales tax to automobile / truck & other vehicles that use our roads. While we are at it make it high enough to finance PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION that might actually get a few of the single occupant gas guzzlers off the road.

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Posted by Adif4entMIND on 10/17/2017 at 6:44 AM

Re: “Koch Brothers Infiltrate Pima County Schools With a High School Econ Course

Mr. Obama brought us out of the great recession caused by the previous administration which got us into expensive military actions in the Middle East. Why do you keep saying he did nothing. Don't like the regulations passed to make your banking a little safer? Poor corporations and CEOs.

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Posted by Caroline Anderson on 10/16/2017 at 9:39 PM

Re: “Board of Supes Set To Discuss Christy Proposal for Countywide Sales Tax for Roads

YES!

Great job Steve Christy ... put part of the cost on the shoulders of EVERYONE who uses the roads (i.e., snowbirds, gem show visitors and tens of thousands of other short term tourists) -- and not entirely on the backs of property owners.

And while we are at it, local gov't should continue to roll back property taxes to MORE sales tax initiatives (like Chuckleberry would like to initiate).

When will all the leadership of Tucson going to realize that we have a huge, temporary population that comes here and uses our resources WITHOUT PAYING FOR THEM?

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Posted by Danehick Sux on 10/16/2017 at 3:14 PM

Re: “Board of Supes Set To Discuss Christy Proposal for Countywide Sales Tax for Roads

"The RTA has the confidence of the entire community." Uh, no it doesn't. The actual ballot proposition was riddled with fraud, including the outcome of the proposition. Many complained that it ignored real problems in an effort to create bus pullouts and unnecessary window dressing rather than deal with tough issues like crosstown inner loop road systems and Houghton north to Snyder Road and connecting that with Sunrise to the west.

But then wasn't the necessary land owned by car dealers? Don't tax me to play your games. Over taxed enough, and besides, more stop lights simply add to the delays and congestion.

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Posted by Wayne Olson on 10/16/2017 at 12:14 PM

Re: “Koch Brothers Infiltrate Pima County Schools With a High School Econ Course

I have searched for that and would also like to read it. I thought it should have been public record but I have not been able to find it anywhere.

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Posted by Wayne Olson on 10/16/2017 at 12:08 PM

Re: “Koch Brothers Infiltrate Pima County Schools With a High School Econ Course

Thank you for the information on how the Freedom curriculum got into a few TUSD high schools, Betts Putnam-Hidalgo. Interesting.

Could you provide some clarification on a few other TUSD curricular process & transparency issues:

On what date was the MAS curriculum approved by the TUSD Board? Id like to go into the archives and read the minutes, and also the agenda for that meeting together with whatever curricular materials were attached for public review.

In the past few months as the MAS trial was approaching, I have repeatedly done web searches to try to access a complete curriculum plan and readings list for MAS. If I understood what I heard RE the recent trial correctly, evidence was presented that the State Department of Education was never provided with a complete curriculum to review during the time when it was trying to respond to complaints it had received about MAS. There were just pieces here and there which had to be evaluated without understanding the larger curricular context in which they were embedded.

If there is a link to complete MAS curriculum materials, please provide it. I doubt that after all the recent media discussion, Im the only member of the public who would like to be given the opportunity to review that curriculum in full so we can better assess the validity of the claims being made about it in both sides of the political spectrum.

Thanks in advance for your help with this...

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Posted by Looking for consistency in transparency & process on 10/16/2017 at 10:58 AM

Re: “Town and County Officials Say Supervisor Miller is Misleading the Public on Bond Issue

Well, its politics and screwing Citizens over again and again... Rhey nicke and dme us to death, and nothing really gets done.

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Posted by MsAzSunshine on 10/16/2017 at 8:22 AM

Re: “Koch Brothers Infiltrate Pima County Schools With a High School Econ Course

Just like Hitler and his henchmen you have to get the impressionable minds before they have been influenced by liberty, equality, and fraternity , to replace them with regimented control, white superiority, and narcissistic behavior. The one thing that you have to always remember is that, "if a Republican ever does anything for you that seems generous and reasonable , you can bet your last dollar that they have set an inescapable trap inside a well concocted enticement that will make it seems as if you have destroyed yourself instead of them doing it to you. Somewhat like the "SAW" movie. Never ever under any circumstance trust a Republican!

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Posted by Beneal Good on 10/16/2017 at 7:49 AM

Re: “Guest Opinion

and dont forget Sean Noble Koch brothers , intro man, who is MORMON, this is what is behing all this, MORMONS taking over government !!! When are people going to wake up in AZ . Do not vote for Ducey he is their puppet .

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Posted by jill schafer on 10/16/2017 at 7:09 AM

Re: “Koch Brothers Infiltrate Pima County Schools With a High School Econ Course

The difference between the MAS program and the Koch program is that one indicates that it is teaching a particular lens on history, and does not pretend to teach all history. The other, however, DOES totalize itself--that is, it purports to teach Ethics, Economy and Entrepreneurship without at all indicating that it is teaching a LIBERTARIAN ethics (?!) including a very one sided Economy and Entrepreneurship. Other than that, though, the writer is correct above--the course was "approved" on a day that there was no Board meeting (as confirmed by Mary Alice Wallace who knows the schedules and the archives) and the textbook appears to have only been confirmed by being bought and paid for (according to FOIA information). According to publisher and Freedom Center information, the course can only be offered in high schools where the administration has committed, prior to its teachers taking the summer 2015 workshop, to hold the course--so one wonders who, during the Sanchez administration, offered so many assurances that the class would be held. Of course given the revolving door of friends from Texas and local administrators, many with very questionable qualifications for those jobs, there is no one from that era left at 1010 in those positions who can answer for how the course ever got authorized to begin with. But Board authorization, unless gathered in famous Board one on one's, never took place.

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Posted by Betts Putnam-Hidalgo on 10/16/2017 at 5:51 AM

Re: “Koch Brothers Infiltrate Pima County Schools With a High School Econ Course

Why did the Koch family become involved in politics? Fred Koch, the father of the infamous Koch brothers, went to Russia in the 1930s to sell them oil refinery technology and befriended many communists. He was there when the purges began and personally witnessed his friends first purged from the communist party and then shot dead in the middle of the night.

The Russian archives now show the plans to murder tens of thousands of Russians. In the margins are Stalin's notes "not enough."

The fathers, mothers, and grandparents of the UofA professors protesting the Koch brother centers thought it was cute and chic to be "fellow travelers" of Stalin in his mission to spread communism to the United States.

Paradoxically, the Koch brothers have created a true communist heaven in the Koch industries, not the evil conception of Karl Marx. In Koch industries, bosses don't reign supreme, they are held accountable to their subordinates and evaluated by them.

As a result, they have proven that "right creates might." People like working for them so much that over 100,000 have chosen to do so. In a country with over a million companies, they are one of the 100 largest.

Our intellectually corrupt universities would never tolerate such creative thought. Have the professors evaluate the Deans? Ha! Not in this lifetime.

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 10/15/2017 at 3:19 PM

Re: “Guest Opinion

God bless the Koch Brothers as a counter to the authors socialist meddling in schools and universities since 1917!

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Posted by Steam-Maker on 10/15/2017 at 1:21 PM

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