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Re: “Distill My Heart

Elgin Distillery also puts out a damned good gin, as well as some good brandies and whiskeys.

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Posted by lc69hunter on 08/03/2017 at 7:49 PM

Re: “Danehy

Thank you so much for this. As a proud Amphi Panther (class of '81), I didn't play football but many of my classmates did, and I certainly watched a lot of games. Coach always made us proud -- win or lose, we knew that the most important thing was hard work and character. It sounds cliche but they don't seem to make them like that any more. He'll be missed.

5 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by Gordon Zaft on 08/03/2017 at 5:26 PM

Re: “Arizona's Un-Credential. Is It the Beginning Of the End Of Teaching As a Profession?

Hi,

A false statement -

"Yet Arizona's Subject Matter Expert Standard Teaching Certificate is equal to a standard teaching certificate people earn by going through a teacher preparation program, passing subject matter and professional knowledge exams and teaching for two years"

If it were true why then only a few of the jobs offered it as a minimum requirement and none as the only ...

This one doesn't and note the preferred requirements ....

https://www.google.com/search?q=tusd+jobs&…

Been tracking here all summer ...

https://www.google.com/search?q=tusd+jobs&…

4 likes, 16 dislikes
Posted by Robert on 08/03/2017 at 2:27 PM

Re: “Distill My Heart

Do they do tastings? Addresses would be nice.

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Posted by Sharon Brittain Allen on 08/03/2017 at 9:36 AM

Re: “Arizona's Un-Credential. Is It the Beginning Of the End Of Teaching As a Profession?

jhuppent@hotmail.com. Do you have any non-biased sources for your claims? Or are you just pitching out numbers to back up your desire to cripple public education? And where is that Florida study? Here's one that disagrees (assuming your's exists): thttps://www.teachingquality.org/sites/default/files/11_doescertificationmatter.pdf

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Posted by retrorv on 08/03/2017 at 8:48 AM

Re: “Arizona's Un-Credential. Is It the Beginning Of the End Of Teaching As a Profession?

Mumford P. Where did you get your ranking number? If not in the link you supplied. Here's one that actually does. http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/05/cali…

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Posted by retrorv on 08/03/2017 at 8:45 AM

Re: “Arizona's Un-Credential. Is It the Beginning Of the End Of Teaching As a Profession?

Consider the increasing exodus of teachers from their profession aligned with far fewer college students intending to enter the field (a labor shortage) in tandem with the acknowledged low quality and standards of teacher preparation courses (a readiness issue). These explain the dynamics behind S.B. 1042 here and similar legislation under consideration in other states.

The political argument in favor of S.B.1042 type legislation appears to be: If holes need to be plugged, any warm body will do.

These are untenable problems with a suggested solution akin to sending 10 years olds into battle as inevitable defeat looms. Mastery of subject matter IS critical to teaching successfully. Mentored experiences and knowledge of how students learn IS critical to teaching success and being able to broaden students' horizons while igniting their desire to continue on to more demanding lessons.

Until traditional models of teacher preparation are disrupted and replaced, and the teaching "profession" becomes a highly paid, respected, admirable pursuit, nothing will change. The questions are how to attract the best students into well designed and validated teacher preparation programs, how to nurture them in the field and how to fund teaching jobs that pay salaries commensurate with other professions.

The center cannot hold. We are running out of cannon fodder.

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 08/03/2017 at 8:19 AM

Re: “Ask a Mexican!

Orale.

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Posted by icecld51 on 08/03/2017 at 7:52 AM

Re: “Arizona's Un-Credential. Is It the Beginning Of the End Of Teaching As a Profession?

You have a number of states for example Florida and North Carolina where they have detailed data stretching for many years.

We will soon have a comparable data base in Arizona through the teacher course connection. We have a very large sample of long term substitutes and emergency teachers.

It actually doesn't take a lot of years, just a large sample.

The particular study that I read came from an analysis in Florida. It was almost a dead heat, but there was a large standard deviation on both curves. That large standard deviation points to the potential to access a large pool of effective teachers who aren't currently allowed access to the classroom just because of credentialing.
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Over 45% of long term substitutes had higher academic gains than 50% of certified teachers.

A side benefit of allowing this unfettered access is that it would send a wake up call to the Colleges of Education. When reviewing quality surveys at the Arizona Department of Education, I found that only 25% of teachers rated the quality of their preparation excellent. This was a static number.

At the Department of Education, our excellence rating was improving at the rate of seven percentile points a year. Our Arizona Universities overall were improving at the rate of one percentile point a year and I wasn't seeing any improvement at all in the teacher rating of their college education.

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 08/03/2017 at 6:07 AM

Re: “Arizona's Un-Credential. Is It the Beginning Of the End Of Teaching As a Profession?

Where are there schools with uncertified teachers that are comparable to schools with certified teachers in sufficient quantities and of significant length to provide long-term results? And what does "long-term" imply? How many years, judged by what? As usual with Huppenthal, his statements are questionable at best, and probably false at worst.

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Posted by gcb1 on 08/02/2017 at 8:52 PM

Re: “Arizona's Un-Credential. Is It the Beginning Of the End Of Teaching As a Profession?

What is our goal? What achievement will bring the greatest esteem and job satisfaction to our teachers? Creating an artificial construct of laws that prevent entry into the profession?

Or, to maximize academic gains, motivation and character of our students so that they can be successful in life?

The long-term studies in those states that now track academic gains student by student and class by class show that certified teachers are only marginally better than uncertified teachers.

From that curve you can draw a simple theoretical conclusion - if school districts can gain unlimited access to the upper half of the uncertified curve, academic gains for the nation will go up as much as 25%.

The best and the brightest of education culture have been at it for years. The result? Academic productivity of our schools is down 15% since 2000.

Allowing school districts to set their own employment policies not only will not end the world as we know it, it is likely and predictable that it will result in better outcomes for our students. And, that in turn will result in greater job satisfaction for teachers.

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 08/02/2017 at 11:47 AM

Re: “Arizona's Un-Credential. Is It the Beginning Of the End Of Teaching As a Profession?

I have to agree. There are some great teachers out there that have made it their career. It reads like a hit piece by a union, gasping for survival. NEA always offered up scary scenarios that did not come to fruition. Would love to see it go back in time to the point where government workers were not allowed to unionize. That in itself would allow them to take their union dues home as pay.

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Posted by Norman P, retired Oro Valley on 08/02/2017 at 11:46 AM

Re: “Arizona's Un-Credential. Is It the Beginning Of the End Of Teaching As a Profession?

Sounds like a tempest in a tea cup. With pay so low and teaching being such a tough profession, the only people who will do this will be people who are very motivated to teach and will probably do a great job for that reason.

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Posted by bslap on 08/02/2017 at 11:32 AM

Re: “Desert Angel

Ask yourself what would Jesus do?
Thank you Joel.

Posted by Vera Kwaayesnama Skorupski Skor on 08/02/2017 at 10:11 AM

Re: “Arizona's Un-Credential. Is It the Beginning Of the End Of Teaching As a Profession?

Arizona is loaded with conservative assholes and a conservative asshole governor.

Yet AZ scores even lower than CA.

Not the best argument now is it Mumford?

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Posted by Mumford and Nones on 08/02/2017 at 9:49 AM

Re: “Arizona's Un-Credential. Is It the Beginning Of the End Of Teaching As a Profession?

$72,000,000,000.00 Education Funding in California. How did students results compare to the rest of the nation? 46th.

https://calmatters.org/articles/how-much-has-californias-education-spending-grown-in-last-5-years/

CA Legislature is loaded with liberals and a liberal governor.

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Posted by Mumford P on 08/02/2017 at 9:10 AM

Re: “Arizona's Un-Credential. Is It the Beginning Of the End Of Teaching As a Profession?

All of the Republicans in the state legislature and the congress of the U.S. are doing great with a very limited education which home-schooling could provide. The main objective for Republicans across this country is to take every program and department of state and federal government s and privatize them which allows public money to go to private persons, usually other Republicans that will funnel that money back into electing more Republicans. The planning to monopolize governments started after Richard Nixon resigned in discrace and Republican think-tanks have been meeting since that time to achieve the goals of their platform,ie; small central government, low taxes, privatize every part of the federal government, restrictions on individuals that are granted by the Constitution. All conservative governments across the globe are repressive and some of them are murderous. Hitler was a liberal until he gained complete control and then he became an ultra conservative.

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Posted by Beneal Good on 08/02/2017 at 7:14 AM

Re: “Arizona's Un-Credential. Is It the Beginning Of the End Of Teaching As a Profession?

If this catches on you can forget trying to get companies to relocate to Arizona, no matter what incentives you give them, and you might be encouraging companies that are already here to think about moving to a state that values education for their employees' children and for future employees.

Of course, it will sure make it easier to cut all kinds of programs when the only remaining businesses in Arizona are private prisons, Border Patrol operations and construction of the Trump Wall.

40 likes, 9 dislikes
Posted by sgsmith on 08/02/2017 at 12:30 AM

Re: “Arizona's Un-Credential. Is It the Beginning Of the End Of Teaching As a Profession?

David, you have hit the nail on the head!

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Posted by gcb1 on 08/01/2017 at 5:14 PM

Re: “Arizona's Un-Credential. Is It the Beginning Of the End Of Teaching As a Profession?

"The mother of SB 1042 is the conservative desire to devalue, degrade and dismantle public education."

Be still my heart but doesn't this qualify as a conspiracy theory?

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Posted by Bada Bing Bada Book on 08/01/2017 at 4:21 PM

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