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Re: “Congressman in Cuffs

What an embarassment: our Congressional representative arrested like a common criminal.
Let's face it, the only immigration policy Grijalva would support is automatic American citizenship for every Mexican citizen that requests it.

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Posted by bslap on 09/28/2017 at 6:32 AM

Re: “Danehy

This member of a two-parent white household loves our charter school. They have discipline, and dress standards, and high teacher-student ratio, and teachers who haven't been completely beaten down by the system. Those are all horrible things, I know. If we were proper liberals we should have our kids in the local 2,000 kid mediocre-or-worse high school. They could be part of a social engineering experiment by the pols on the TUSD school board.

* As always, full disclosure, I am that most evil thing in the world: a straight, white male.

8 likes, 25 dislikes
Posted by bslap on 09/28/2017 at 6:31 AM

Re: “From Wastewater to Cold Beer

It is oft said that 'all water is recycled,' meaning (and this is true) that every time we take a swig of 'crystal clear pure mountain water' from our water bottle, that water has passed through a dinosaur and several hundred organisms since.

That being said, the Pure Water Brew Challenge was genius. For those Arizonans not yet on board with the idea of drinking recycled water, this was a way to educate and enlighten them. I've had the pilsner, and it's really great. Congratulations to Dragoon, and also to the third place winner, Tucson's own Crooked Tooth Brewery.

13 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by SalMinella on 09/28/2017 at 5:10 AM

Re: “Sports Scandal Rocks UA Basketball Program

Good points Mike. I know I was a bit snarky earlier, it was just the language of the response that got me, That good old "We became award...." just felt a little too phony to me. A main item no one has gotten much into is Sean Miller. How long is he here for? Hard to believe a micro-manager like him could not have known. Not impossible, but.......So yeah, the whole program is in the deep end.
BTW, hearing Jim Calhoun express total shock about this and acting so sanctimonious was something to hear. When I lived in CT, his program was known as the "Dirty Calhoun".

11 likes, 3 dislikes
Posted by Kenneth Groves on 09/28/2017 at 4:53 AM

Re: “Danehy

In the countries where charter schools and tax vouchers are successful, there is strong central control and oversight, which is missing from the US versions. Great article in the Economist a few months back on this topic, one which lays out all sides of the argument. Netherlands has the number seven best educational system in the world and uses both religious and governmental schooling. The mix works only because of a strong oversight from their central government, something which Betsy Devos seems to miss. By the way, the Economist article gives the US a number thirty-seven rating. Ask yourselves where China and other competitors are before opening your mouth about how wonderful charter schools are.

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Posted by Russ Ty on 09/28/2017 at 3:57 AM

Re: “Why Teachers Are Leaving (And New Teachers Aren't Replacing Them)

What is "a preoccupation with reducing hours of instruction"? Would that be, perhaps, a valid concern with increasing the hours available during the school day for planning and grading? Most of the public school teachers I know are mothers with dependent children still at home. They are doing underpaid and undervalued work during the school day so they can do unpaid and unvalued "non-work" raising their own children afternoons, evenings, weekends, and summers. In this context, reducing hours of instruction would be a valid goal that would support increasing the quality of services delivered to students. Probably the relationship between this advocacy goal and quality of services would not be clear to a wet-behind-the-ears, earnest "I'm here to save the world" TFA or Teacher Corps recruit, but it is very clear to those of us who know first-hand the life circumstances of most teachers in the "still-a-ghetto" or "in-Arizona-even-more-a-ghetto-than-it-ever-was" profession of K-12 teaching.

(Very tired of the "from-on-high" commentary of male "educators" who portray themselves as heroes and get congratulated for how self-sacrificing they are when many or most of them do only part of the job their female colleagues do: most if not all of the women are doing the same amount of work during the school day AND the lion's share of the work of child rearing and household management at home. During the years when their children are growing up, most if not all of the female teachers I have known have literally had not a moment to themselves during any of their waking hours, year-in, year-out.)

Recommended reading for those baffled by the above comment: Rachel Cusk's A Life's Work, Chapter 7, entitled "Hell's Kitchen."

5 likes, 5 dislikes
Posted by P.S. on 09/27/2017 at 4:22 PM

Re: “Sports Scandal Rocks UA Basketball Program

After reading a lot of fine print and coverage from a number of sources, I have to warn Wildcat basketball fans that we're probably in for a long dry spell. Maybe not right away, depending on what else the FBI comes up with. But soon, because this isn't just about $20,000 and a player who won't come play for us next year. Nor about having a player who apparently accepted money and is already on our team. To put this thing in proper perspective, consider that Arizona and Miami were in a bidding war, apparently for, Nassir Little--espn's #14 recruit for 2018. Miami needed $150,000 to get him and a coach there had asked for that sum. Word was Little would probably attend Arizona because Adidas wasn't prepared to go more than $125,000. The player Book is alleged to have paid $15,000 is believed to be Quentin Grimes--espn's #13 recruit for 2018. If Grimes services could be bought with $15,000 paid to his mother, isn't it likely he got more from other sources? Something similar to what is said Little needed to commit. Arizona was probably in competition with Louisville for Brian Bowen (espn #14 for 2017) who is believed to have received $100,000 from Louisville (costing Rick Pitino his job). If Bowen was worth that much, how much might DeAndre Ayton (espn #3 this year) have been worth to UA? Not that I'm accusing Ayton of wrongdoing. I'm sure there are players out there who aren't accepting bribes to decide where they'll play. But it's the players who are the source of all the big TV money that allows these astounding salaries for assistant coaches, to say nothing of head coaches. Most of these kids don't come from wealthy homes. They risk their professional careers to injury every time they go on the court. It's hard to blame some of them who take an insurance policy if coaches, agents, shoe companies, and investment counselors are dangling the money in front of them. I hope I'm wrong, but it's hard to imagine that those who oversee Arizona's basketball and other profitable athletic programs aren't aware of college sports' black market. With the FBI hunting investigation continuing, our Wildcats are likely to see some players and personnel leaving the program and recruits with likely NBA futures no longer coming to play in Tucson. Remember the quality of basketball played here under Ben Lindsey? It could get worse--much worse.

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Posted by Mike Hayes on 09/27/2017 at 3:34 PM

Re: “Sports Scandal Rocks UA Basketball Program

"We became aware of the situation.....this morning."
Oh really, what gave it away?
The handcuffs or all those men wearing blue jackets w/ FBI on the back?

9 likes, 4 dislikes
Posted by Kenneth Groves on 09/27/2017 at 3:27 PM

Re: “Sports Scandal Rocks UA Basketball Program

...and... what about the recent Teacher tire slashing incident at TUSD's Santa Rita High School during a Parent/Teacher Conference? The Teacher is African American...and...the incident may be a Hate Crime. The Editor of the Tucson Weekly was given the details of the incident but apparently never reported!!

6 likes, 7 dislikes
Posted by Francis Saitta on 09/27/2017 at 3:12 PM

Re: “Why Teachers Are Leaving (And New Teachers Aren't Replacing Them)

And here's what I think, Rick Spanier: I respect those who comment under their own name and those who comment anonymously when their comments have CONTENT that is worthy of respect. Yours often fall in that category, but in this particular stream and on this particular topic, in my honest (and non-automated) Arizona parent-and-teacher opinion, not so much.

5 likes, 6 dislikes
Posted by Kudos & Few on 09/27/2017 at 12:40 PM

Re: “Can High School Athletes Take a Knee?

Wayne, you speak as if the defeat of the Roman Empire were unfortunate and avoidable, instead of just purely logical--conquer and oppress the vast majority of people you come across for long enough, and yes, eventually they will all rise up against you.

All empires fall, and eventually ours will, too. Participating, or not, in jingoistic rituals will have nothing to do with it; rather, the fall of the U.S. empire will have everything to do with things like, oh, how many innocent kids we slaughter in places like Yemen, and how many of our allies are alienated by our psychotic fuckwit of a president.

12 likes, 3 dislikes
Posted by skinnyman on 09/27/2017 at 11:56 AM

Re: “Why Teachers Are Leaving (And New Teachers Aren't Replacing Them)

@Kudos to long-suffering teachers who stay in the game. @Few take an interest in what matters

Here's what I think: I respect those who comment here under their own names. I wonder about those who use ad hoc addresses of the moment to engage. Assuming you are one-in-the-same, why would I continue a debate with a chimera? Are you real? A bot?

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 09/27/2017 at 11:38 AM

Re: “Why Teachers Are Leaving (And New Teachers Aren't Replacing Them)

Rick Spanier:

You used your particular experience in Philadelphia to support a more general point about the massive exodus of the competent and those with other options from the teaching profession. If you didn't think your particular experience in PA with parents, teachers' union, and teacher educators had broader application, you wouldn't have embedded it in that context. Moreover, what do your words imply about those who are still teaching in public schools? Read them again and ask yourself.

Whatever Safier's teaching role was in the past, in another state, his role now vis a vis our largest local school district has not been one many teachers would understand to be supportive of their efforts. He supported and excused Board members who outsourced subs and damaged their pay and benefits. He took an active role in defending the district's use of 123 and 301 funds, more of which should have gone to teachers.

He can write columns and you can write comments. Good for you. From the perspective of parents who have to get children educated in the underfunded and dangerously chaotic educational "system" in his state and teachers who put up with terrible conditions and pay here, it seems that this would be of more value: supporting the policies, candidates, and funding allocations that can make a constructive difference in students' (and teachers') lives.

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Posted by Few take an interest in what matters. on 09/27/2017 at 11:14 AM

Re: “Why Teachers Are Leaving (And New Teachers Aren't Replacing Them)

@Kudos to long-suffering teachers who stay in the game

You have no idea of my background in public education, especially at the political level of board politics or supportive parent-teacher groups. None.

My comments concern why I decided not to pursue teaching as a vocation and focused on the negative role played by the teachers union in Philadelphia and the level of instruction in Temple's teacher preparation program.

I didn't disparage teachers, I called the teachers union out for what was then a preoccupation with reducing hours of instruction and concerns unrelated to teaching their students. The instructors in the teacher prep courses were, again in my opinion, unqualified hacks. The parents? What do you say when one or two show up for parent teacher conferences and the rest never show or take any role in their kids' educations?

One city, one teachers college, one teachers union. That was the critical mass that turned my away from public school teaching. There are people like Safier, who dedicate their lives to teaching because they love seeing the lights come on in their students' eyes and are willing to put up with the ongoing distractions that impinge on their ability to teach. All praise to them. They are heroes.

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 09/27/2017 at 10:30 AM

Re: “Why Teachers Are Leaving (And New Teachers Aren't Replacing Them)

Dan Kennedy, you are by my count the third professional educator (sounds like that's the position from which you write) who has pointed out the invalidity of the math "teaching" methods Huppenthal repeatedly cites as an "achievement" in these comment streams. Kudos to you. The situation we are in in Arizona is not a good one. People who flaunt Huppenthal-style ignorance of education have not only been given free reign to do this to students whose parents have no way of knowing that this is not real math education, but they are also architects of education policy.

Rick Spanier, is someone dabbling in public education and then getting out when the conditions change so that they are no longer agreeable something that could be described as "service"? As for your own choice, exiting the profession and then disparaging everyone you came into contact with in the field -- parents, teachers, and teacher educators -- what kind of stance is that for a citizen in a democracy where more than 80% of those who vote will graduate (if they graduate at all) from public schools?

In politics and in education, seems like democracy cannot work when too many stand on the sidelines, with no skin in the game, no child in the schools, and from there make condescending commentary about how the beleaguered runners in the race they observe are beneath them. Meanwhile the citizen advocacy tasks that would make a concrete improvement to the educations of the majority of our fellow citizens have too few people willing to move them forward, or even take enough interest to know what they are.

I will never forget canvassing for a school board candidate in an affluent neighborhood of retirees most of whose homes were vacant (not cool enough yet in those early fall months to get on a plane and return to Arizona, no doubt). Of the few that were in residence and answered their doors, most didn't even know what school district they lived in. Skipped that part of their ballots when they voted, no doubt. One of them actually argued with me that he was in a more affluent district than he actually was, not realizing that he'd gotten a deal in his retirement home price precisely BECAUSE, the way the boundaries were drawn, he was NOT in that district. There's a small glimpse of the REALITY of "democratic control" of public ed in Arizona. It bears little resemblance to the beautiful theories of Safier and his fellow Supporters of Public Ed.

Depressing. None of this -- not Safier and his camp, not Huppenthal and his, not Spanier and other disengaged sideline commenters and voters like him -- bodes well for our children or for the collective future of this state.

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Posted by Kudos to long-suffering teachers who stay in the game. on 09/27/2017 at 9:33 AM

Re: “Can High School Athletes Take a Knee?

Frances Perkins-In eight years you will come to realize just how much Americans thrived under President Trump. That is the great part about the strength of our nation. One person can not define us or do enough damage to become irreparable. Obama didn't, Trump won't.

But it's citizens could. Let's come together.

4 likes, 13 dislikes
Posted by Wayne Olson on 09/27/2017 at 9:26 AM

Re: “Can High School Athletes Take a Knee?

At my high school graduation in 1971 when the National Anthem played I remained seated in my chair along with a small number of my fellow students protesting the events in Viet Nam. I was soon to receive my draft card. Few took notice of my protest in a graduation class near 400, except of course for my parents. My father was a WW2 veteran and very unhappy with my stance/seated position to say the least. In later years he came to be of the same opinion regarding Viet Nam, Nixon, etc.
High School is a significant time when the young person is in transition to adulthood. Children are often smart, sensitive and honest as long as they are nurtured by love and not by fear. We could learn a lot from them if we only listen.

I love this country, always have and always will, even with the current woefully narcissistic and inept president who doesn't understand our history, or how government works. Combine that fact AND a dysfunctional congress and you have the worst possible scenario politically speaking. Our constitution both protects and encourages the right to speak freely with responsibility, the right to protest peacefully, and the right to criticize our government regardless of age, race, gender, sexual identity, or economic privilege. Our leaders are after all, working for us. All of us. Our taxes pay their salaries...sometimes with regret.

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Posted by ronko on 09/27/2017 at 8:15 AM

Re: “Can High School Athletes Take a Knee?

Olympic athletes stand for the playing of another countries anthem. We stand for Canada's. Whatever you think, just be respectful.
Anyway, it's time to do away with playing the anthem every time at sports events, that's not what it's about. Play it on special occasions,
Would mean more than.

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Posted by Deborah McGeary on 09/27/2017 at 7:11 AM

Re: “Can High School Athletes Take a Knee?

Ah, what would a comment about immigration be without a reference to the good old Irish. Different time, different population level.

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Posted by bslap on 09/27/2017 at 6:23 AM

Re: “Why Teachers Are Leaving (And New Teachers Aren't Replacing Them)

" My students don't need homework. When you do 600 math problems while at school, you've done as much as practice can do for you."

And the first time they come across a problem that takes them more than a minute to solve, what will they do? Throw a fit?

You are kidding yourself if you think your students doing 600 problems is evidence of sound math education.


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Posted by Dan Kennedy on 09/26/2017 at 11:56 PM

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