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Re: “The 'Freedom Center's' High School Course Is On Shaky Ground at TUSD

John Huppenthal, with your well-documented record of A): discriminating against Mexican-American students; and B): making stupid, vile, racist blog posts, you are the last person who should be talking about "poor dears from the hood."

Further, your insinuation that concerned, informed citizens like David Safier and Betts Putnam-Hidalgo are motivated to keep lower-income kids from succeeding and under "our control" is just plain wacky. Reasonable people may disagree about this course, but your implication makes no sense.

I guess if you haven't already learned to check yourself before posting, you never will.

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Posted by Jana Happel on 11/21/2017 at 2:01 PM

Re: “The 'Freedom Center's' High School Course Is On Shaky Ground at TUSD

It's interesting to note that questions asked in these comment streams about whether TUSD's Mexican American Studies (MAS) program received Governing Board approval in a proper public process went unanswered. Questions about who funded the impressive legal team arguing that the MAS ban was unconstitutional also went unanswered.

Memo to David Safier and Betts Putnam-Hidalgo: It's not transparency you're asking for when you don't ask for it uniformly. If it's "transparency-for-my-enemies-and-opacity-for-my-friends," then what you're asking for is a political cudgel you can use to abuse people with whom you disagree, not GENUINE transparency, which by definition is required of our friends and our enemies, and for curricula originating from ALL parts of the political spectrum.

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Posted by Transparency isn’t Transparency if it isn’t uniformly applied... on 11/21/2017 at 2:01 PM

Re: “The 'Freedom Center's' High School Course Is On Shaky Ground at TUSD

Members of the Tucson group Kochs Off Campus! have read the Freedom Center's textbook for this high school course. Most of the textbook seems to have been written by libertarian crackpots. Although some high schools use it to fulfill a State economics requirement, it does not give an overview of the field of economics, notably omitting Keynesian economics and the labor movement. It takes potshots at the minimum wage and other favorite libertarian targets. Although it is titled Philosophy 101, it is filled with PR and homilies instead of open ethical questions. It presents several myths as fact, such as: "Homo sapiens became the wisest of primates around forty thousand years ago when we learned to make deals with strangers" (page 2). The original version contained hundreds of typographical errors. (At least some of those were corrected after our group brought them to public attention.) Now the Freedom Center is trying to restrict access to the textbook and the list of schools where the course is being taught. That information used to be available on the publisher's website (Sagent Labs). The Sagent Labs website was taken down when this whole story went public. The Templeton Foundation did not get its money's worth on this one.

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Posted by Tori Woodard on 11/21/2017 at 12:46 PM

Re: “The 'Freedom Center's' High School Course Is On Shaky Ground at TUSD

Why don't you talk about what is in the course instead of its genetic makeup?

Probably understanding supply and demand, double entry accounting, Gross Domestic Product definitions, Personal Income, Judicial and Governmental structure. How to set up a brokerage account, 401ks, stocks, bonds. Maybe a philosopher and an economist or two, Adam Smith and Ricardo.

All the things that would just make your hair stand on end.

Wouldn't want these poor dears from the hood to be successful and leave our control, would we?

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 11/21/2017 at 12:00 PM

Re: “The 'Freedom Center's' High School Course Is On Shaky Ground at TUSD

Betts, according to a conversation I had with David Schmidtz, Jim Click is one of the Tucsonans who gives scholarships to students in the course who want to take it for dual enrollment but can't afford the UA tuition. That indicates his involvement with the FC, but we still don't know how much he's contributed directly to the Center. Until the Center reveals its donors and the amount of donations -- though it's probable they can't if the donations have been made anonymously -- I think it's fair to assume most of the donors are of one political stripe.

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Posted by David Safier on 11/21/2017 at 11:38 AM

Re: “The 'Freedom Center's' High School Course Is On Shaky Ground at TUSD

While you folks babble on about the disgusting world of entrepreneurship, it seems quite odd that the Clinton Global Initiative was able to broker a deal to sell the Russians 20% of the US uranium supply for contributions to Bill and Hill. And you folks said nothing. Or the fact that TUSD had brought in anti American haters to develop curriculum for classrooms.

It seems to the untrained eye that you basically detest success. The socialist utopia, once again.

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Posted by George S on 11/21/2017 at 11:18 AM

Re: “Tucson Salvage

Thank you for that. I've always admired him in his stone-like stance. I figured he is probably from an Aboriginal background, and maybe he cam male sense of this world we've created. I love the visual of him beaming away, but I love even more the sense of musical traffic. I've always wanted to go stand by him and see if he can help me see what he sees. He's a beautiful figure.

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Posted by Joe Cain on 11/21/2017 at 9:34 AM

Re: “The 'Freedom Center's' High School Course Is On Shaky Ground at TUSD

According to Dr. Villarreal-Diaz who was at the time of my research into this course one of a few professors in the Freedom Center, a considerable amount of the money also came from Jim Click. I am a bit suspicious of Dr. V-D's accuracy, but he did state this to the site council meeting at Tucson High that handled this subject when one of its members raised questions about the course. What I would like to know more about now is how is it that the high school teachers can be trained to give the course through a summer class, while every other high school teacher giving a dual enrollment class has to get a masters and additional credits in the subject of the course. Perhaps this is why not every district offers the courses as dual enrollment, and perhaps this is part of the reason that the course is not ALWAYS deemed eligible to fulfill state requirements for a single economy class in high school.

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Posted by Betts Putnam-Hidalgo on 11/21/2017 at 8:53 AM

Re: “The 'Freedom Center's' High School Course Is On Shaky Ground at TUSD

In addition to "Dark Money" by Jane Mayer (which is a must read in my opinion), anyone who is interested in the motivations of the Koch Brothers and their followers should check out the website: unkochmycampus.org

It's a much bigger reach into our society than one might think at first glance.

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Posted by Jana Happel on 11/21/2017 at 7:26 AM

Re: “The 'Freedom Center's' High School Course Is On Shaky Ground at TUSD

Employing stealth to achieve a public policy outcome is a red flag. Like the Kochs, the Freedom Center has worked to cloak their policy objectives. Putting everything on the table for public scrutiny would jeopardize their likelihood of success.

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Posted by Tom Rhodes on 11/21/2017 at 6:50 AM

Re: “UPDATE: Please stop sending your sweet, sweet turkeys!

Maybe moving from St Demetrios wasn't a good idea. The community supported the event at that venue for decades.

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Posted by UofAzWildkitty on 11/21/2017 at 4:08 AM

Re: “Trusting Entrepreneurs to Improve Education: A Cautionary Tale

Nobody talks about the scattering, divisive effect of giving every kid a machine and an IEP. Everyone learns what they want. Finally there's no common inheritance, no common knowledge that every American should know. I think this is the secret goal. Subversion is its name.

Bruce Deitrick Price

Posted by educatt on 11/20/2017 at 6:39 PM

Re: “Steve Bannon Beats the Drum Against Undocumented Immigrants in Tucson Appearance

I thought the BP agents were shot and killed. Turns out they were beaten to death with boulders. Let's catch the killers.

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Posted by Jonathon K on 11/20/2017 at 4:02 PM

Re: “Tucson Salvage

Thank you for this article!!! I used to see Arthur everyday at the corner of Golf Links & Marc St when I was taking my son to school or picking him up from school. I hadn't seen him in such a long time and think about him every time I pass that corner. I always think I hope nothing has happened to him. And now I know.

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Posted by Margie Herreras on 11/20/2017 at 1:03 PM

Re: “Steve Bannon Beats the Drum Against Undocumented Immigrants in Tucson Appearance

How ironic people are defending illegals on the day after an illegal bashed one of our Border Patrol agents head in with a rock. I call that time to end illegal immigration in the US as we know it.

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Posted by AZPAUL on 11/20/2017 at 12:07 PM

Re: “Steve Bannon Beats the Drum Against Undocumented Immigrants in Tucson Appearance

Kelli Ward and Steve Bannon. You can't make up this level of lunacy, using each other. They dont care one iota about the people of Arizona, the people are just suckers, and pawns for their ambitions, and Michael Ward's ambitions.

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Posted by Frances Perkins on 11/20/2017 at 11:16 AM

Re: “Steve Bannon Beats the Drum Against Undocumented Immigrants in Tucson Appearance

ON APRIL 10, 2006, MORE THAN 10 YEARS AGO...

15 brave community activists had the GUTS to enter Armory Park to confront 15,000 rabid "pro-raza" open border zealots, declare their support for "the wall" and American sovereignty, and burn 2 Mexican flags in spite of wide-spread republican, democrat and community support for decades old "Open Border Policy" to wit:

"To aid and abet, entice and invite and to otherwise encourage the illegal entry of impoverished Mexican citizens for economic and political exploitation."

And yet these 15 have received no support or acknowledgement from the community for having the courage to stand up in 2006 when it really mattered!!

Trump didn't define and create the issue which elected him, We few here in Arizona did!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUSrLBt521…

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Posted by KitWarden on 11/20/2017 at 10:49 AM

Re: “Steve Bannon Beats the Drum Against Undocumented Immigrants in Tucson Appearance

"The hotel and fast food industries have ridden the gravy train for years with this strategy and made a *lot* of money."

One of the leaders in this practice is Mr. Trump himself. He brings in all manner of immigrants, bypassing the proper rules of the system. The reason being that he can pay them low wages, giving himself bigger profits. How convenient.

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Posted by Robyn Renwick Zelickson on 11/20/2017 at 9:56 AM

Re: “Steve Bannon Beats the Drum Against Undocumented Immigrants in Tucson Appearance

I am struck by the irony of Breitbart News having the courage to pursue the federal government gun running program, and then when the family of a BP agent killed in the line of duty, awards said newsman, the leftist apologists attack him personally. And the cherry on top is that it all happens on the day when two more BP agents are shot (1 dead) by illegal entrants at the border.

It would be more accurate to charge you as accomplices to murder. I just used a little bit of your own logic.

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Posted by Wayne Olson on 11/20/2017 at 9:55 AM

Re: “Steve Bannon Beats the Drum Against Undocumented Immigrants in Tucson Appearance

The Brian Terry Foundation smeared themselves, and Brian Terry's name, when they invited this racist P.O.S. to our community.

But in some ways, it makes perfect sense. Multiple independent investigations have shown the U.S. Border Patrol to be a profoundly racist institution. It pervades the agency, from the policy decisions at the highest level right down to the individual actions of far too many of the agents on the ground. The ingrained culture is to demonize Mexican immigrants and treat them as the enemy.

From the question of which immigrant demographic to persecute right down to the brown teenager that gets shot in the back as he's running away, this agency brings shame upon the U.S. and threatens our core constitutional values of liberty for all. Considering that, Steve Bannon--a.k.a. Joseph Goebbels--is the perfect spokesperson.

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Posted by skinnyman on 11/20/2017 at 9:36 AM

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