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Comment Archives: stories: News & Opinion: Downing

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Jaguar lover - is it worth a forever destruction of valuable natural open spaces for 20 yrs of jobs/copper when Freeport has a 100 year reserve at Sierrita and plenty of copper coming up at Resolution?

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Posted by geckoman on 02/02/2012 at 2:51 PM

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How many of the people who oppose the mine are using cell phones? How many have ANY idea what these mines are for? Seriously, people, you are not informed. I agree that this area is more ecologically diverse, important, etc. than some other areas that can and will be mined. But the fact is that we are using up our resources at lightning speed and there are more factors to take into account than our environmental concerns. I also think that so many people are ignoring the fact that if we take on the mine, we are more likely to put regulations in effect that matter on the global scale than in other parts of the world (anyone know anything about the mines in Peru, Indonesia, etc.?). We are so willing to throw our garbage to another country, why not be responsible for what we consume and do it the proper way?

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Posted by jaguarlover on 02/02/2012 at 1:04 PM

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Comments critical of the mine are removed from the mine FB page and the poster is barred from further comment. The company has not responded to a request to change this.

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Posted by Mike Keller on 02/02/2012 at 12:46 PM

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Talk about misinformed. Everyone of you used copper to make your comments. Those "dirty" jobs are highly prized jobs and most are far cleaner than most blue collar jobs and much safer. Plus most ot the employees will be working is either air conditioned offices or vehicles. When to talk about visiting other mine sites you are the misinformed. If you really read the EIS and mine plan you will see this mine will not have a massive tailings pond like most other mines. Instead they are spending a LOT of money to squeeze the water out of the tailings and deposit them "dry" (about 8% moisture) and reusing the water. Those that talk about exporting the copper concentrate should also be aware that the main reason for exporting the concentrate is the inability to permit a smelter in the USA. We cannot keep importing everything from other countries and survive. IF we try to our economy will totally crash, our currency will become worthless and inflation will go through the roof.

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Posted by LaMarTEK on 02/02/2012 at 12:18 PM

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Stop Rosemont . . . not to mention the other mining claims they have on the west-side of the Santa Ritas including the top of a mountain there.

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Posted by Raquel Baranow on 02/02/2012 at 11:50 AM

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I have one question for Rosemont supporters. Do you have such low regard for all of your friends and neighbors and everyone else in your community that you're willing to sacrifice their health and quality of life just so a few people can make some money?

And, as for people who support Rosemont, if you're not "greedy, misinformed, or lacking knowledge on the issues", and yet you still support this disaster-waiting-to-happen, then you are just plain foolish.

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Posted by skinnyman on 02/02/2012 at 11:37 AM

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Renee, thank you for this very well written article, and JOM is absolutely correct in her comment.

Greed is the only thing driving support for this mine. Most of those who truly understand the magnitude of the danger to our water, air, night sky and wildlife, do not support this mine.

Add Jim Click to the list of local businessmen who have been drinking the Rosemont Kool Aid.

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Posted by anonemuz on 02/02/2012 at 10:31 AM

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My friends and neighbors do not support Rosemont Copper and no one who is truly informed would support Rosemont unless they hope to the expense of my friends and neighbors.

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Posted by jom on 02/02/2012 at 9:57 AM

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JOM - Do you have such low regard for the many members of our community (many whom are your friends and neighbors), who support Rosemont?

Just because their opinion differs from yours, does not make them misinformed, greedy or unknowledgeable of the issues.

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Posted by A Rosemont Supporter on 02/02/2012 at 9:32 AM

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Thanks for the kind words. Sounding off to the local businesses and pols is a GREAT idea, IMHO.

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Posted by Renee Downing 1 on 02/02/2012 at 9:28 AM

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I agree with Small. It's time to stop supporting businesses that support Rosemont Copper..... and also politicians. Most are totally misinformed about this "project," have not researched it, don't care to know the truth, are only interested in any profits or campaign funds that might come their way, as a result of their support.

Money talks. Rosemont Copper's borrowed money has been "talking" for the past three years, to anyone gullible enough to listen and their reward has been a listing on Rosemont's "Community Support" list along with a portion of Rosemont's PR funds. It's time for Tucson businesses to hear from those of who oppose this mine. It's time for our money to do the "talking" as Rosemont Copper may have spent most of theirs. They have a loan of 44 million due April 23.
Will they be able to borrow the money to repay that one, as they borrowed in order to repay Sumitomo a few years ago?

Over 24,000 comments have been sent to the Forest Service. Now is the time to let your money "talk"! This mine will be stopped!

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Posted by Jom on 02/02/2012 at 8:42 AM

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I can only add a simple "amen" to this piece, and to Ricardo's cogent comment. The Rosemont Mine disaster, were this a rational community, would never have gotten as far as it has. This controversy is a no-brainer. Greed is destroying a unique environment, and only a few of us seem to care. It's depressing.

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Posted by RogerRabbit on 02/02/2012 at 7:54 AM

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This is one of the finest pieces of writing I've ever read in the Tucson Weekly.

You know who supports the Rosemont Mine? The owners of El Charro, the Flores.

I traded emails with Mr. Flores about his support of the Mine last year. His reason was he had to keep his restaurant employees working.

I will never eat in an El Charro again, and I suggest that those who do not want this misbegotten hole in the ground to destroy a big chunk of our public lands in Baja Arizona, avoid patronizing El Charro. There are many, many other excellent Mexican food restaurants in and around Tucson that serve better food than at cheaper prices.

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Posted by Ricardo Small on 02/02/2012 at 6:36 AM

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Yes! I, too, am an old fashioned book lover - but being able to look up places one reads about is super! When I was a Test Engineer, long ago, I had to test Artisoft's products on the internet. Our boss wouldn't let the 'boys' do it cause they loved the internet games long ago when they 1st came out. It took me a couple of weeks to see what was so great about it (keep in mind this was 20 years ago), but I soon was hooked.

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Posted by Ritzschke on 01/07/2012 at 1:10 PM

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Although I've lived here 30 yrs., I've often found "explanations" about Rio Nuevo confusing, (similar to commenter NanFree)....I'm no longer confused. Thanks for this great article--explains a lot very concisely. One of the very best in this Weekly! Now, I feel like I can partake in an intelligent conversation of Rio Nuevo. I'll be waiting to watch that "perp walk." I'm also ready to take any citizen action I hear or read about. I'm so sick of greedy thieves running Tucson...into the ground.

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Posted by grandma8 on 12/10/2011 at 8:13 PM

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"Lucid, clear" -- music to my ears. Thanks, NanFree! Renee D

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Posted by Renee Downing 1 on 12/09/2011 at 5:02 PM

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I swear I have not read a comprehensive review of Rio Nuevo during the last 3 years--only scraps that made me realize I did not have a clue of what was going on. Thank you for the lucid, clear scenario.... now I get it.

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Posted by NanFree on 12/08/2011 at 10:14 PM

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Within months of assuming the presidency of the University of Arizona, Peter Likins penned an editorial about the city noting, "Tucson has an aversion to prosperity."

Amen, Dr. Likins. After living there for 5 years, there was more than enough evidence that Tucson must surely be one of America's worst managed cities. The endless, childish hate-Phoenix attitude, the no-bid highway construction scandal, the FBI investigation of the Pima County Board of Supervisors, the major league teams and bowl game who have abandoned the city, irrational hatred of new roads, the cheering of million-dollar homes burned by radical extremist and debacle over the fake science behind the pygmy owl...

This said, the Rio Nuevo sinkhole is the inconic stuck on hold nature of the city. It is a reminder of how Dr. Likins nailed it several years ago...

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Posted by Ramflies on 12/08/2011 at 12:56 PM

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So we get a recitation of the ways the City screwed up Rio Nuevo? Wow-now that's some journalism right there! I haven't read a negative piece about Rio Nuevo in about, oh, 2 or 3 days. Everything in this article has been extensively written about for the last 3 years but I guess one more time can't hurt. In the mean, how are the many governments in Pima County spending our money right now? Do we really need a rehash article like this?

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Posted by retrorv on 12/08/2011 at 11:54 AM

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Thanks for clarifying the Occupy movement. Before the tinhat brigade comes on with the "get a job" comments, thought I would like to express my support for the 99%.

I am a career engineer, who after 27 years returned to school to prepare for the green revolution that was supposed to turn the economy around - three years ago. I work, but have not had a full-time job with benefits yet, even though I have a brand new (2009) degree.

Finally, I found out why I cannot find work, the "filthy fifty" who have been blocking meaningful change to our economy for their own benefit, read: “Outing the Oligarchy:BILLIONAIRES WHO BENEFIT FROM TODAY’S CLIMATE CRISIS”

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Posted by Vincent Pawlowski on 12/07/2011 at 4:07 PM

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