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Re: “Claytoon of the Day: Yappy Jesus

Apparently not....http://www.tektonics.org/gk/jesusignorelaw.php

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Posted by Thomas P on 06/19/2018 at 4:04 PM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Border Edition

I suppose I could explain that Trump is just enforcing a law that has been on the books for years. Or that it was Obama who created the loophole that put these kids in the spot that they're in. I could go on and on, but why bother? All I'll have to show for it is 40 dislikes and a few snide remarks from the usual stooges. Probably 95% of them up until 8 P.M. election day would have laughed like Hell if I said that Trump can win this thing. Who's laughing now?

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Posted by CW13 on 06/19/2018 at 3:48 PM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Border Edition

Sarah Sanders responded to Former First lady Laura Bush's OpEd piece regarding immigration policy.

"And, frankly, this law was actually signed into effect in 2008 under her husbands leadership, not under this administration, she added. Were not the ones responsible for creating this problem; weve inherited it. But were actually the first administration stepping up and trying to fix it.

If Bush and Obama enforced this law, why would the former fist ladies oppose Trump?

Is anybody going to ask or have we all become sheeple?

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Posted by Thomas Wilson on 06/19/2018 at 12:06 PM

Re: “Claytoon of the Day: Yappy Jesus

Actually, Jesus broke the law commonly. . . http://forgettingtheformerthings.blogspot.…

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Posted by Kenneth Groves on 06/19/2018 at 11:48 AM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Border Edition

...and he shall be greatly confused."

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Posted by Liberals Have Gone Full Circle Wacko on 06/19/2018 at 11:19 AM

Re: “#RedforEd Initiative Would Hike Taxes on Rich to Pay for Schools

Git er done Sunday Morning! Git er done.

Sooner or later we are all the rich. Been there seen it. Funny thing is the teachers have also been duped into believing that a majority of the public is behind them.*

*See also 2016 Election, Clinton Loss. There is a storm a comin'.

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Posted by There Is No Reasoning With Tax And Spend Educrats on 06/19/2018 at 11:15 AM

Re: “Claytoon of the Day: The Chump Foundation

Another conviction without a trial? How un American of you.

http://suindependent.com/cartoon-fishing-out-hillarys-server-by-clay-jones/

Probably? Probably hell no.

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Posted by Clakamas River Rafting on 06/19/2018 at 11:10 AM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Border Edition

And He said " I shall deliver unto you a pompous windbag and I shall call him Francis"

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Posted by CW13 on 06/19/2018 at 10:06 AM

Re: “#RedforEd Initiative Would Hike Taxes on Rich to Pay for Schools

Taxation for the purpose of indoctrination..No way! I have a great idea, just engineer another walkout during the school year and stick it to us taxpaying parents so we have scramble for childcare...youve already pissed off enough of us, a couple more times and well find a way to organize our own schools that actually teach our kids something. The rich? Im sure that definition will expand and before long itll be another arbitrary and loosely defined grouping to foot the bill. How about redevelopment of your pay scale for public education? Incentives, merit pay, less allocated to admin and board members perhaps. Bottom line for me is I get that being a good teacher is tough and thankless but get your own house in order before you go beating down doors!

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Posted by Sunday morning on 06/19/2018 at 9:54 AM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Border Edition

Donald Trump's Immigration Policy and it's Implementation is, in general, similar to Nazi Germany's Murderous Genocidal Policies and it's Implementation. The Policy, Sequestration and Murder of those considered undesirable, was set by Hitler and Implemented, without question, by those in Subordinate Positions. For Trump, He has Set His Immigration Policy, Sequestration of Children of Parents that he Considers Undesirable. His Immigration Policy is being implemented by "Homeland Security"!

Trump is Destroying the vary fabric and underpinning of our Social System. He can only be Stopped if he is Removed for Office Forthwith!!!

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Posted by Francis Saitta on 06/19/2018 at 9:32 AM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Border Edition

Almost everyone would (and should) agree that separation of families is not desired.

So, what is the solution?

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Posted by LetsFigureThisOut on 06/19/2018 at 9:24 AM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Border Edition

It is truly horrific to think of what children and parents separated at the border must be going through, and hard to imagine what conditions in the facilities hurriedly assembled to care for the children must be.

It has been hard to find good reports that dispassionately and accurately present what the changes in the flow of immigrants have been, what the laws are, what the enforcement policies of previous administrations have been, and what has changed in recent months. After reading a lot of reports that left major questions unanswered, I found these two that seemed to do a pretty good job covering what had been happening and what is happening now:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/16/us/politics/family-separation-trump.html?nl=top-stories&nlid=54372512ries&ref=cta
https://tucson.com/news/local/questions-and-answers-here-s-what-s-going-on-with/article_1cf20cd7-c0c7-591d-9ff2-69b662b5801a.html

Bottom line is the grid-lock in Congress needs to stop and our elected representatives need to do their jobs in formulating sane laws that address the conditions on the ground, both within the U.S. and on its borders, in such a way that the laws can actually be enforced without traumatizing children and creating humanitarian crises. And pressure for sane law and policy needs to continue beyond what happens with entering the country: those who work directly with refugees know that the system that deals with LEGAL immigrants in the U.S. is not appropriately structured or adequately funded.

(It's worth noting that there have also been heart-rending, crisis-level conditions in the Arizona foster care and CPS systems, but local clergy were never mobilized to send letters or propose the imposition of penalties on workers who enforce laws in those malfunctioning and underfunded systems. Nor were they mobilized to use their authority to address the malfunctioning and underfunding of the social safety nets whose neglect and deterioration causes increases in the number of cases the foster care and CPS systems are handling.)

Do we believe, based on what we've seen for the last decade or more, that the U.S. Congress is capable of working together to achieve consensus and address the immigration problems in a responsible way? If not, what are the obstacles to Congress being able to do that? (No, it's not just "not enough Democrats." A large part of it is members of the two opposing parties in a two party system BOTH being too influenced by funders rather than by constituents and never being able to work together to achieve sane compromises.)

Impeaching Trump seems to be the desired "solution" mentioned in a lot of the commentary on the current border crisis. Which, as usual, ignores the fact that Trump is an effect as well as cause of intractable problems; one troublesome symptom, not the disease. Choosing to enforce faulty laws on the books is not an impeachable offense, and even if other reasons are found to remove Trump from office, removing him will not solve our longstanding inability to formulate sane immigration law and policy.

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Posted by Compassion is needed. ANALYSIS is also needed. on 06/19/2018 at 9:10 AM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Border Edition

Sessions cited the Bible in defending the policy, arguing the recent criticisms were not "fair or logical and some are contrary to law."

"I would cite you to the Apostle Paul and his clear and wise command in Romans 13, to obey the laws of the government because God has ordained them for the purpose of order," he said...."

Sessions does NOT understand the nature of Christianity or our Constitution. He is using Religion to justify His (Trumps) Draconian and Inhumane/Barbaric Immigration Policy!!

Christ has advised those like Donald Trump and his supporters: Mark 9:42: "If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them if a large millstone were hung around their neck and they were thrown into the sea."

In fact, the 2nd Amendment of our Constitution allows armed Citizens to Overthrow a Government by Assassination if necessary; supported by two former Presidents and a Supreme Court Justice: Jefferson, Lincoln and Justice Story.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it...." (Abraham Lincoln's First Inaugural Address March 4, 1861)

"....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure...." ( Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, Paris, 13 Nov. 1787)

"....The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered as the palladium of the liberties of a republic since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers and will generally even if these are successful the first instance enable the people to resist and triumph over them..." ( Story, Joseph (1833) Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States. Boston: Hilliard, Gray and Company. Cambridge: Brown, Shattuck, and Co. Volume III, page 746747, 1890.)

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Posted by Francis Saitta on 06/19/2018 at 6:05 AM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Border Edition

And the opposition to enforcing immigration laws continues in the media - always doing the work of their sponsors in the cheap labor industries.

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Posted by bslap on 06/19/2018 at 5:34 AM

Re: “#RedforEd Initiative Would Hike Taxes on Rich to Pay for Schools

Tax increases are just like Bond elections.

Sorry no.

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Posted by Cut Pending To Find Money on 06/18/2018 at 8:38 PM

Re: “In Which I Find Myself Agreeing With (1) John Huppenthal and (2) The Charles Koch Institute

There is no such thing as a right not to have other citizens in your country doing things that are obnoxious. There may be rights to have your "representative" government make laws that prevent behaviors that are unreasonably obnoxious, and to have the government that has made the laws enforce them.

Thus the problem in your allegory is not with the lawyer and the leaf blower he hires. It's with Tucson city code and code enforcement, i.e. it exists in an area well under the control of Southern Arizona Dems.

Spoiler alert: the average citizen will not get ANY results -- other than complete waste of their time and effort -- with approaching our Democrat-controlled local governments with an advocacy issue. But still, amazingly, some people are determined to continue voting Democratic and swallowing the party line that it's the RICH MAN and his leaf blower that are the problem.

Funny, that.

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Posted by P.S. to those concerned about leaf blowers on 06/18/2018 at 8:18 PM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Border Edition

Obama did the same, as did Bush. You said nothing. Come on David let's get honest.

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Posted by Ismell Arat on 06/18/2018 at 7:45 PM

Re: “Claytoon of the Day: Yappy Jesus

Christians are not confused. Jesus broke no laws.

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Posted by He Is Risen! on 06/18/2018 at 2:43 PM

Re: “Claytoon of the Day: Free Kool-Aid

And just today a new Gallup Poll shows the highest level of approval for the direction of the country since 2005.

Most readers here must be members of the "glass half empty" group.

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Posted by Making America Great Doesn't Make All Americans Great on 06/18/2018 at 1:07 PM

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