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Re: “Where I Went Wrong in My Earlier Budget Post

"[I]t's important to distinguish between money dedicated to improving the [K-12] education of students across the state and money going to a few, mostly affluent districts." Yes, that's true. Good analysis, David Safier. Thanks much.

And yet, in the broader context, there's a sense in which old school liberals like Safier are people who urge us to keep mopping the floor, failing to notice that the house is burning down. They pointlessly organize themselves to register voters while the Republicans redistrict and take over both houses of Congress, the Presidency and the Supreme Court. They flog the same old "K-12 public school funding adequacy and equalization" project, missing the fact that what has happened with pricing of higher ed and the student loan "industry" has made it impossible for large cohorts of people who work for a living to devote time to advocacy projects that tinker with universal K-12 funding adequacy and equalization; the cost of higher ed forces too much time-consuming damage control with their own children's education and economic prospects. (And they shoot themselves in the foot with their "funding adequacy!" cause when they chronically fail to hold the politicians in control of some troubled, urban public districts accountable for ensuring the proper application of the inadequate funds that are granted to them, leaving parents in those districts doubly-punished, first by inadequate funding at the state level and then by improper application of the limited funds available in their children's mismanaged and malfunctioning public schools. But God forbid those doubly-punished parents should be allowed to apply their tax-derived per-pupil funding in schools that actually function properly and educate their children. To grant that they should be allowed to do so is a heresy punishable by excommunication from the "liberal" (?) tribe.)

To return to the main point, about the effect of higher ed costs on the overall "equity in education" project: Cost of attending that "public" bastion of free speech and student activism, UC Berkeley, for out-of-state students is, like all top-tier American universities, "public" and private: over $60K per year. Look it up, crusaders for social justice. While you're at it, look up the University of Michigan and UCLA: same story. In-state cost of attendance at the U of A is a bargain by comparison: only $25K per year, but this is still much higher than it used to be as a percent of average income and it is nowhere near what the state constitution says it should be, "as nearly free as possible." Some "merit aid" (essentially discounting) occurs based on student merit and a few well-endowed institutions can afford to grant need-based aid that doesn't load students up with debt. The existence of this reality post-K-12 forces shifts in the behaviors of people in the K-12 system. People with knowledge of what higher ed has become don't have the luxury of letting their neighborhood public school do what it does and be what it is: they have to look for ways to boost their neighborhood school's performance by securing supplementary funding (through lobbying Ducey for "performance based funding" or through District 13 and 16 private foundations to supplement funding or through public school tax credits, which go disproportionately to affluent district), or they have to look for alternative charter or private settings that will enable their students to get into well endowed institutions and / or qualify for merit aid.

Bottom line is that you don't treat the symptom without addressing the cause. The sector that needs analysis and a smarter form of advocacy than Safier and his fellow travelers have thought to engage in is the loan-peddling sector which has inflated higher education costs by successfully pushing loans on students. This sector's sub-prime mortgage schemes which exploited the working poor blew up the entire economy in 2008 and now they've got new targets: not home owners, but anyone using the higher education system. If mainline Democrats don't start addressing this loan-peddling sector directly instead of continuing to advocate that we spend our time mopping up the increasing inequities that are its toxic byproducts in our K-12 public education system, soon the "universal education" project will be in ashes and there will no longer BE a floor for Safier and other 1960s-style liberals to insist we mop.

Posted by "Toto, I've a feeling we're not in the 1960s any more." on 01/19/2018 at 10:07 AM

Re: “Legislation Launch

PaulAZ brings up a good point, even though his rant is misplaced in regards to "Democraps".

I have a CCW, and even though marijuana is not my poison of choice, I could not buy a firearm and would have to give up my CCW for even medical marijuana.

However, that is not a left/right democrat/republican issue. It is the simple fact the marijuana is still listed as a Schedule 1 substance, and ATF is just following the law.

Congress just needs to get its head out of its collective asses. As an aside, privately, and off the record, the IRS Auditors I know that have audited dispensaries, think the law ought to be changed.

Posted by lc69hunter on 01/19/2018 at 8:29 AM

Re: “Governor, You're No Don Quixote.

Mr. Martin,

Thank you for speaking the truth about little waynie. Somebody has to.

Posted by little waynie and the 99% need to get the big picture on 01/19/2018 at 8:20 AM

Re: “Danehy

Anyone who has to tell you (over and over) how smart he is - isn't.

I suppose the corollary is, anyone who has to be TOLD how smart he is - isn't either.

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Posted by W Corvi on 01/19/2018 at 8:10 AM

Re: “Legislation Launch

Democraps.

Goood wone PawlASS

Posted by PaulASS and the 99% need to get the big picture on 01/19/2018 at 8:08 AM

Re: “Where I Went Wrong in My Earlier Budget Post

Mr. Safier,

Please forgive Mr. Huppenthal. He never comprehends anything. What is really sad about that is he comes across an intelligent, although manipulative, person. I truly believe that he has selective comprehension. Which makes his commentary even sadder.

Pathetic even.

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Posted by Hupp needs to vanish. Canasta is a GREAT alternative! on 01/19/2018 at 7:56 AM

Re: “Police Dispatch

Boiling yeast isn't very good for it. Making moonshine (running your own still) is also illegal, though.

Posted by W Corvi on 01/19/2018 at 7:55 AM

Re: “Kids on the Run

Do they E-Verify their new hires?
It's the law you know.

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Posted by Juan Valdez on 01/19/2018 at 7:50 AM

Re: “Where I Went Wrong in My Earlier Budget Post

John, I didn't state that the $88.1 million wasn't new spending. I said that the entire $88.1 million won't come out of this year's budget. It will be $5.1 million for the next 25 years. Of course it's new spending, but you can't add all of it to this year's total.

Two quotes from my post.
"That means every year for the next 25 years, $5.5 million for those schools will be part of the education budget."
"The budget includes $5.1 million for new school construction, not $88.1 million."

Posted by David Safier on 01/19/2018 at 7:35 AM

Re: “Where I Went Wrong in My Earlier Budget Post

Face it Wayne, tRump called those countries shitholes.

Why are you ALWAYS defending tRump anyways?

Are you actually Sarah Huckabee Sanders?

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Posted by Wayne Olson and the 99% need to get the big picture on 01/19/2018 at 7:02 AM

Re: “Where I Went Wrong in My Earlier Budget Post

Contrary to your rant, the $88.1 million is new spending. It may be borrowing at the state level but it is spending at the school level. The state will have to pay it back, not the schools.

In many years, all new education spending, capital and O&M is accomplished by borrowing at the state level.

The state is probably over $20 billion? in debt, that was all education spending. This entire package might be accomplished with new debt.

Because Arizona has had a strong economy and runs one of the top 5 most efficient and effective state governments, it can do this kind of thing.

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 01/19/2018 at 6:56 AM

Re: “Where I Went Wrong in My Earlier Budget Post

Lets keep in mind that the state of AZ is the most corrupt state in this nation. (Harvard Study, 2014) Of course Ducey wants to look good and will say anything to make himself such. Just like all of them. No harm no foul. Despite my differences with Safier at times, I find no "pattern" of him ever mis posting, with intent to deceive the reader, as I see with most journalist or "journalist/commentator". The error on Mr. Safier's post, is only supporting the corruptness that goes on within the state. I thank him for the fix. Only those who read his stories consistently, know his pattern. He may lean slightly to his left, but, it's his right as well to write. Right?

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Posted by Martin on 01/19/2018 at 3:23 AM

Re: “Where I Went Wrong in My Earlier Budget Post

I'm sorry to hear about your vision problems, Wayne. Maybe one day there WILL be a cure.

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Posted by someguy on 01/18/2018 at 8:30 PM

Re: “The Skinny

Martha McSally flew high,
Made a name for herself in the sky,
But then to politics she jumped,
Backing Donald the tRump,
And her ethical compass just died.

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Posted by sgsmith on 01/18/2018 at 4:44 PM

Re: “Where I Went Wrong in My Earlier Budget Post

You should be ashamed David. After chastising me, I have waited a week to see if there were any sources to confirm Dick Durbin's claim of what President Trump said regarding "other countries."

As of 3:19 PM Nevada time today, there has not been a confirmation. But there have been three separate denials. Either not said or not heard.

"Hatred causes blindness which can not be cured."

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Posted by Wayne Olson on 01/18/2018 at 3:22 PM

Re: “The Skinny

Do you think she'll risk meeting with actual voters as she campaigns?

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Posted by SonoranWinds on 01/18/2018 at 2:34 PM

Re: “Death Sentence

"Police found bindles of cocaine, heroin and meth, as well as a 9mm handgun ... Yates pled not guilty to the felony charges for drug sales and possession of a firearm ... a jury of his peers found Yates not guilty of all charges"

Not guilty? How?

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Posted by how is that possible? on 01/18/2018 at 1:30 PM

Re: “The Skinny

Martha McSally, an empty flight suit posting as a legislator. Please say goodbye to Trump's favorite congresswoman.

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Posted by tiredofpc on 01/18/2018 at 12:02 PM

Re: “Police Dispatch

Fools! Sounds to me like the boy was making moonshine. I hope they took the so called street drugs.

Posted by Sally Chandler on 01/18/2018 at 11:35 AM

Re: “Danehy

Check out the story on page 14 of today's Red Star. Not it will change your mind, but it's the thought that counts.

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Posted by CW13 on 01/18/2018 at 11:29 AM

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