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Re: “There's Election Integrity, and Then There's Election Integrity

The founding fathers were a lot smarter than either of us. We are a republic for a reason. Their distrust of an all powerful federal government made sense then and today. Donald Trump can't understand that because he obviously has not read or understood the Constitution and is convinced he is the smartest guy on Earth.

He is not even in the right hand side of the bell curve measuring intelligence. He is somewhere in the shallows on the left side. I will stay with our founders and the Constitution. Thank you.

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 07/14/2017 at 2:55 PM

Re: “There's Election Integrity, and Then There's Election Integrity

Why am I opposed to amassing all voter information in one database secured by the US government? Because that same government has had a dismal track record of maintaining the integrity of the massive databases it has responsibility for protecting. Because the Trump administration is incompetent and focused on revenge and retaliation. Because I would not trust an administration headed by Hillary Clinton any more than I would the current administration. Because the Republicans seek to deny voting rights to their perceived enemies while Democrats have used the IRS against their perceived enemies. Because I believe our electoral process is resides with the states not the federal government. We are a republic, remember, and the founders were a hell of a lot smarter than me, or you.

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 07/14/2017 at 2:48 PM

Re: “There's Election Integrity, and Then There's Election Integrity


Arizona already sells access to its voter registration database for $500, which includes party preference, although not the last four digits of one's SSN. Withholding SSNs from the U.S. federal government, the entity that issues them, seems odd. And why would you be opposed to secure storage of the information?

The liberal resistance to Kobach's project seems very fishy. You people insist, without evidence, that non-citizen voting doesn't happen, yet you all support obstructing an investigation that would prove or disprove that claim.

It's almost as if something's being hidden, intentionally.

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Posted by Nathan K on 07/14/2017 at 2:04 PM

Re: “Flake Takes a Turn To the Right

Flake and McCain an embarrassment to Arizona.

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Posted by Wally Jakubin on 07/14/2017 at 1:53 PM

Re: “Song of the Day: Billy Sedlmayr on Rainer Ptacek's 'A Stone’s Throw Away'

Amen. Never equaled, never replaced.

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Posted by Peabo on 07/14/2017 at 1:52 PM

Re: “Flake Takes a Turn To the Right

I think Flake would benefit from promoting a single payer system, he could improve his ratings with his constituents and possibly retain his senate seat in 2018, but the Koch brothers would not approve, that $$$$ would no longer exist for him. The choice is public approval or $$$?

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Posted by Wendy Goodman on 07/14/2017 at 1:48 PM

Re: “Political Punch

The President's hectoring the Press is treasonous, undermining people's trust in all our principles.

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Posted by John Mackey on 07/14/2017 at 1:34 PM

Re: “There's Election Integrity, and Then There's Election Integrity


I am opposed to this administration having access to all voter information from all states including social security identifiers and party affiliation and storing it securely in an unidentified location (Kobach's big oops). I would be similarly opposed to a Democratic administration following the same path.

And no, you can't assume I am opposed to DOJ lawsuits under the Voting Rights Act. That is a legitimate area of concern as the Republicans continue to struggle to deny voting rights to their presumed enemies.

This nonsense from Trump-Pence-Kobach is a lame defense of the ridiculous claim that 3 million illegals voted against Trump in '16. Only the dumbest of the dumb is buying into that lie and defending Trump's latest brain fart. That train will never leave the station. Money better spent on the latest border wall, you know, the transparent one with solar panels that will pay for itself.

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 07/14/2017 at 1:18 PM

Re: “Flake Takes a Turn To the Right

It is especially disappointing to see our Senators from Arizona lacking courage in speaking out against the BCRA. Both the senate bill and its corresponding house version will undercut the Medicaid expansion. Arizonans know first-hand what happened when Jan Brewer slashed our budgets and kicked a ton of people off of Medicaid - there was a surge of patients who lost access to their outpatient doctors and crowded our emergency departments. These patients not only had their chronic diseases spin out of control because the loss of their insurance meant loss of medications and doctor visits - but they were subject to hospital admissions that were in many cases preventable.

When Governor Brewer accepted the Medicaid expansion we got over 100,000 Arizonans insured the first year. Our own state's history demonstrates why this experiment should NOT be repeated at the national level. Not only would we see a surge in patients losing their insurance, but we'd have a glut of them showing up again to our emergency departments when their chronic diseases again spun out of control. However, if we dismantle ACA at the federal level, there's no higher level of government to bail AZ out (or any of the other states for that matter).

We already know the GOP plan doesn't work because we've lived it in Arizona. Changes to strengthen ACA are needed, but we neither need to return to the pre-2009 crisis that precipitated ACA. We need to learn from our own history, and use it to teach the rest of the nation as well.

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Posted by Larry DeLuca on 07/14/2017 at 1:02 PM

Re: “There's Election Integrity, and Then There's Election Integrity

Then why do we look to the government to "repair" our healthcare? Get them out of the market and let market forces dictate costs.

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Posted by WRD on 07/14/2017 at 12:17 PM

Re: “Flake Takes a Turn To the Right

Until Flake actually casts a vote against something Trump wants (we're still waiting) his willingness to criticize Trump is empty rhetoric. He can wring his hands all he wants, but it's pure posturing. He's about as much of an anti-Trump Republican as is Mitch McConnell.

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Posted by DRW on 07/14/2017 at 12:13 PM

Re: “There's Election Integrity, and Then There's Election Integrity

Rick Spanier, can I assume that you're opposed to DOJ lawsuits under the Voting Rights Act, then?

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Posted by Nathan K on 07/14/2017 at 11:31 AM

Re: “Political Punch

Provocateur -- a person who provokes trouble, causes dissension, or the like; an agitator.

This is not journalism, but it is what passes for journalism today.

Real journalism, not unlike my former career as a military police investigator, is about finding and preserving evidence, gathering facts and records that either substantiate or unsubstantiated a crime. It is not about having a predetermined outcome and working toward a conclusion by selecting only things that support the desired results. If I did my job right, I did not need testimonial evidence, such as statements and confessions, the physical evidence and facts were sufficient to convict; all though, confessions were the icing on the cake.

Today, too many "journalists" are semi-professional sh@t-starters more interested in garnering attention to their particular point of view than revealing the truth -- warts and all.

I firmly support the First Amendment -- I gave more than 20 years supporting and defending the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and today we are facing threats from both foreign and domestic powers, some of which are working together against the American people and our institutions.

If we are to survive these challenging times we must hold both the government and the press to higher standards. The truth is not something that resides on a sliding scale or is a matter of your point of view.

"The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object." -- Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)

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Posted by sgsmith on 07/14/2017 at 10:43 AM

Re: “Political Punch

Will Rogers never met Donald Trump.

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Posted by dsimpson on 07/14/2017 at 10:32 AM

Re: “The life of Timothy H. O'Sullivan

So glad you've archived this article and that I've found it! It turns out Timothy O'Sullivan photographed the area in southern Colorado near the site of my great-grandparents' dude ranch, many years before that was established. Fascinating story and such incredible pictures!

Posted by Tia Regan on 07/14/2017 at 10:01 AM

Re: “There's Election Integrity, and Then There's Election Integrity

There is a good reason the states are responsible for conducting elections. There is no good reason for political hacks at the federal level to get involved. Remember "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you?"

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 07/14/2017 at 9:58 AM

Re: “Flake Takes a Turn To the Right

It's time for this vacuous Ken-doll to be retired to the dustbin of political history.

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Posted by skinnyman on 07/14/2017 at 9:46 AM

Re: “There's Election Integrity, and Then There's Election Integrity

Kobach's commission's job is fact find. That's all. What he wants to do is to cross check the names of registered voters against a list of known non-citizens (i.e., visa holders, permanent residents, and known illegal aliens). The only people who would object to this project are those who think that's ok to register non-citizens to illegally vote in our elections.

The typical response to this concern is, "Non-citizen vote fraud doesn't happen." But we know it happens to some degree. Here's an example of someone going to jail for it.… Moreover, we can't know the degree to which it happens until we do the analysis that Kobach is proposing. Finally, there has never been a documented case of the vote count from an electronic voting machine being changed due to hacking, ever. Yet, Safier and fellow travelers seem to think that the electronic security of the voting process is a serious problem that has to be addressed. If electronic security of voting machines, a potential problem, is deserving of consideration (and it is), than so is the other potential problem of illegal non-citizen voting.

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Posted by Nathan K on 07/14/2017 at 9:43 AM

Re: “Flake Takes a Turn To the Right

Destinations 1968

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Posted by Fly By Night on 07/14/2017 at 8:41 AM

Re: “Political Punch

Southern Poverty law Center? Now there's an unbiased group!!

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Posted by CW13 on 07/14/2017 at 8:41 AM

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