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Re: “Old-School Corporate Greed

This is Tom. You have no idea how much I hate making mistakes. I apologize for any errors. There is no excuse. I will say this: When I was interviewing Sam Borozan (when he was in the hospital), I had him spell his ancestor's name multiple times. In his raspy voice, I could have sworn he said the last name started with a "B," not a "V". I messed up. I'm sorry.

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Posted by tdanehy on 07/07/2017 at 9:19 AM

Re: “Danehy

Why do "people" who hate and disagree with Danehy follow him as if their religion requires it? Could it be that they have NO LIVES?

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Posted by Vietnam Vet on 07/07/2017 at 8:12 AM

Re: “Old-School Corporate Greed

Dan Frey is also a member of the Bisbee Centennial Commemoration Committee and one of the three Bisbee historians (along with Charles Bethea and myself) who wrote the articles on the Deportation for the Spring/Summer 2017 edition of the Cochise County Historical Journal. Dan did copious research on the reasons for, and events leading up to, the Deportation. Charles, also the committee chairman and author of "The Copper Chronicles" which airs on KBRP-LP, intensively studied the day of the Deportation and 1917 Bisbee in general. I researched the deportees and their lives after the deportation and continue to do so. Thanks to people like Tom Danehy and Mr. Borozan, our understanding of the Deportation increases day by day.

Posted by Mike Anderson on 07/07/2017 at 8:03 AM

Re: “Danehy

Welcome to the Weekly. The editor? He's worse than Danehy!!

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Posted by CW13 on 07/07/2017 at 7:51 AM

Re: “Old-School Corporate Greed

Correction to my just-posted post: the IUMMSW disavowed the strike in 1917, not 1907 (guess I should edit before I post).

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Posted by Dan Frey on 07/07/2017 at 7:48 AM

Re: “The Weekly List: 12 Things To Do This Week

Oh thank God! I want to attend this show and my mother is very old fashioned, she makes me pinch my cheeks until they look as if I used rouge. Now that I know it's the Rogue Theatre, I only have to worry about Homer, my date. He is definitely a rogue beast.

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Posted by Marge Bouvier on 07/07/2017 at 7:47 AM

Re: “Old-School Corporate Greed

Danehy's heart is in the right place, but there are a few more factual errors to point out. The IWW presented the demands on June 26, 1917 not in May 1917. The strike began on June 27. Personal inspection of the miners was not a specific demand at that time; there was a demand to end discrimination against miners belonging to "any organizations" (i.e. unions). The IUMMSW was a direct "descendant" of the Western Federation of Miners, which had conducted the Bisbee miners' strike in 1907.. Although its national leadership disavowed the strike in 1907, the organization was not merely a "fraternal organization." Phelps Dodge was not the only company involved in the "big drive." Calumet & Arizona and Shattuck were other participants, although Douglas's PD led the way. The Villa raid on Columbus was not 5 years earlier; it was a mere 16 months before, in March 1916. Finally, although they attempted to prevent phone and telegraph communication, individuals were successful in getting word out--including to the federal government--by going to Naco.

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Posted by Dan Frey on 07/07/2017 at 7:46 AM

Re: “Old-School Corporate Greed

OK, Mr. Borozan, I found your great-grandfather in the 1920 U.S. census, working as a miner and living in Dubacher Canyon, one canyon east of Brewery Gulch. He's also listed in the Evergreen Cemetery database (with his name misspelled, as was common with the names of Serbs and Montenegrins in those days.) It appears that he died in 1922, not 1920 and is buried in the IOOF section of the cemetery. He makes the 14th deportee (possibly 15th, but George Rice is not yet confirmed to my satisfaction) we know of who is buried in Bisbee's Evergreen Cemetery - there are likely more. I'll check the McKinney's Bisbee city directory for 1916-17 later today to see if he's listed in it. Please contact me so we can complete this story. I am changing "Eli Vukson's" name in our database to Eli Vuksanovich and will start building a file on him.

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Posted by Mike Anderson on 07/07/2017 at 7:28 AM

Re: “Danehy

This is the first time I have read the Weekly and found this article by a kool-aid drinking democrat that spews the trash that most of the talking heads on TV spew....which by the way is not just limited to democrats. Unfortunately, the public is exposed to this trash that these 'talkers' expound as news. Hopefully the readers understand that articles like this are 'trash' and even though its hard to find...look up the facts to political articles. Just bet this guy thinks he's a cutting edge proponent.... he's not....just a immature guy with access to a little weekly. Where's his editor..probably use to work for CNN.... but then maybe Tucson's answer to the NYT.

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Posted by GTWED on 07/07/2017 at 7:27 AM

Re: “The Weekly List: 12 Things To Do This Week

A House of Pomegranates, the Oscar Wilde stories, will be great and we have our tickets for Sunday. I just want to point out it is the Rogue Theatre, not the Rouge Theatre. http://www.theroguetheatre.org/main.htm

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Posted by Jim Wilson on 07/07/2017 at 7:08 AM

Re: “Old-School Corporate Greed

Mr. Borozan, we are indeed creating a record! Please contact me through the Bisbee Mining & Historical Museum (520-432-7071) or through the "Friends of Warren Ballpark" website (www.friendsofwarrenballpark.com) or the Friends' Facebook page. It appears that your great-grandfather is listed on the one surviving census taken during August 1917 at Camp Furlong in Columbus as "Eli Vukson." My wife and I read Eli's name and the names of 900 other deportees while standing on Coote's Hill overlooking Camp Furlong in Columbus a few weeks ago. We would very much like to add his story and photographs to our rapidly-growing list of deportees. Many of the names of the deportees were mangled by the Army officer (CPT Dorcy) who took them down a century ago, which makes tracking deportees from a century's distance problematical but not impossible. The members of the Bisbee Deportation Centennial Commemoration Committee would also welcome you and/or other members of your family to attend our events here in Bisbee over the next two weeks.

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Posted by Mike Anderson on 07/07/2017 at 7:07 AM

Re: “Old-School Corporate Greed

It should also be noted that similar tactics were used by the mining company in Ludlow, Colrado: the deputizing of armed vigilantee's for the armed deportation of striking worker. In the case of Ludlow they burned down the worker camps, killing men, women, and children. Making America GRATE again.

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Posted by Scott Egan 1 on 07/07/2017 at 5:30 AM

Re: “Old-School Corporate Greed

This is Mr. Denehy's best article he has ever written, even with the factual errors noted by other commentators. One important aspect not noted is the fraudulent govenors election that replaced a progressive, pro-worker administration (see Hunt and Campbell). While it may be hard to believe that Arizona was once progressive, the Bisbee '17 Deportation changed that, even after the fix was proven. Thanks for a well written and important article (for a change).

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Posted by Scott Egan 1 on 07/07/2017 at 5:25 AM

Re: “Chicken Flies, Comes Back Down

Didn't I meet that "successful distribution, high-definition video downlink" guy this year?

Based on that encounter, would not be surprised if Stratolite had crash landed, World View reported "all system test objectives were met," gravity verified. ;)

Posted by Robert on 07/06/2017 at 11:10 PM

Re: “Old-School Corporate Greed

Mike Anderson: For the record, since you may be creating one, my great-grandfather's name was Eli Vuksanovich.

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Posted by B Borozan on 07/06/2017 at 9:52 PM

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Great story Tom!

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Posted by Michael Foudy on 07/06/2017 at 12:08 PM

Re: “Danehy

Bravo, Don. Bravo.

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Posted by CW13 on 07/06/2017 at 11:49 AM

Re: “Danehy

Yet another bi weekly rant by the dolt, Thank goodness it is only bi weekly now. Maybe the Weekly will tire of his tantrums the way we have and get rid of him completely.

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Posted by Mark Robert Heywood on 07/06/2017 at 11:15 AM

Re: “Danehy

Mr Danehy, sir, I have family that left military service four months prior to the election, and 23 months prior to full retirement, because they could not and would not serve under a President named Hillary Clinton.

Because of her inaction and deception with regards to gun running in Benghazi and President Obama's phony "red lines" in the sand regarding Syria, it became too dangerous to risk being involved with her militarily. President Obama sealed the deal when he gave Iran most favored nation status.

This thinking permeated the military as it was not specific to a race. It crossed all ethnic lines from Anglo, to Hispanic to African American. Our country has lost the services of many great American citizens.

Please add this to the list of non racist , non idiots that voted against more Democratic failings. The party is void of new ideas and a desire to act in it's own best interests.

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Posted by Don Steadman, Retired Oro Valley on 07/06/2017 at 11:08 AM

Re: “Huppenthal, History and Ethnic Studies

Yes, it's clear from what Huppenthal writes about his math "program" that he doesn't understand what the goals and methods of K-12 math instruction should be and that he doesn't want to acknowledge that standardized test percentiles should not be viewed as exclusive, 100% reliable judges of the comprehension level of a student or of the success of an educational program.

But I note that you, gcb1, do not divulge the # of TUSD classrooms currently covered by uncredentialed long-term substitute teachers. That and other data were requested of you in the comment stream on this Safier piece:
https://m.tucsonweekly.com/TheRange/archives/2017/06/19/carpe-diem-charters-are-failing-to-seize-the-day-or-the-students

TUSD is not, as it is currently constituted, providing "the means and opportunities to ALL students" that staffing classrooms uniformly with fully credentialed educators can and should provide. In spite of more than 40 years of desegregation funding supplements and court oversight, lower quality conditions and resources, faculty and otherwise, are STILL disproportionately occurring in high minority, low-SES TUSD schools. And the reason for that has as much to do with sell-outs and unacceptable compromises made within the Democratic party as it does with what you attribute it to: "the massive efforts of those of [Huppenthal's] party." Add the massive, persistent, and depressing failures of a so-called "party of labor and the common man" that has become entirely ineffective in opposing the agenda of "Huppenthal's party" and you might have a clearer picture of what's actually going on:
https://theintercept.com/2017/06/25/ralph-nader-the-democrats-are-unable-to-defend-the-u-s-from-the-most-vicious-republican-party-in-history/

Meanwhile, REALISTS raising children in this region will be well advised to evaluate the quality of programs in their local public school and consider that it may be in their children's best interests for them to step outside of a public system that both parties continue to degrade and damage while they focus on partisan warfare that does not have STUDENT BENEFIT as its goal, but rather how to advance self-interested, campaign-funder-influenced political agendas.

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Posted by Be honest, gcb1: public schools are not achieving these ideals. on 07/06/2017 at 11:05 AM

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