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Re: “There's Election Integrity, and Then There's Election Integrity

Kobach's commission's job is fact find. That's all. What he wants to do is to cross check the names of registered voters against a list of known non-citizens (i.e., visa holders, permanent residents, and known illegal aliens). The only people who would object to this project are those who think that's ok to register non-citizens to illegally vote in our elections.

The typical response to this concern is, "Non-citizen vote fraud doesn't happen." But we know it happens to some degree. Here's an example of someone going to jail for it. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/10/us/ille… Moreover, we can't know the degree to which it happens until we do the analysis that Kobach is proposing. Finally, there has never been a documented case of the vote count from an electronic voting machine being changed due to hacking, ever. Yet, Safier and fellow travelers seem to think that the electronic security of the voting process is a serious problem that has to be addressed. If electronic security of voting machines, a potential problem, is deserving of consideration (and it is), than so is the other potential problem of illegal non-citizen voting.

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Posted by Nathan K on 07/14/2017 at 9:43 AM

Re: “Flake Takes a Turn To the Right

Destinations 1968

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonanza_Air_Lines#Destinations_in_1968

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Posted by Fly By Night on 07/14/2017 at 8:41 AM

Re: “Political Punch

Southern Poverty law Center? Now there's an unbiased group!!

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Posted by CW13 on 07/14/2017 at 8:41 AM

Re: “Flake Takes a Turn To the Right

Yes, David, by all means let's get rid of any Republican willing to criticize Trump and / or work in a bipartisan fashion on any issue.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/do-republicans-who-criticize-trump-face-peril-jeff-flake-is-about-find-out/2017/05/31/040f0586-4597-11e7-a196-a1bb629f64cb_story.html

Perhaps the Pima County "Democrats" can capitalize on the opportunity the weakening of an anti-Trump Republican provides to ram someone in their "in" network into the position. (Or, more likely, in return for whatever trouble Safier takes to mock and undermine Flake we'll get another Republican, but one more rigorously partisan and more aligned with the Trump agenda.)

Hurray for Safier and his friends! What fun for them, at least up until the day the votes are counted, when they may find that they'll get a nasty surprise similar to the surprise they got when they took down Huppenthal and it produced a Douglas win, not a Garcia win.

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Posted by Fun to watch what passes for "strategy" among Pima Dems... on 07/14/2017 at 7:23 AM

Re: “Flake Takes a Turn To the Right

Republicare (not Trumpcare (it's too confusing for the bewildered president) is the definitive guide to the party's complete incompetence. For seven plus years congressional Republicans have decried Obamacare (Obama actually studied and understood the issues and worked overtime to see the ACA passed).

Now with ownership of both chambers and the executive branch, Republicans fume and fuss and fail, exposing their dedication to breaking things with absolutely no idea of how to fix what they wish to destroy. Flake? He can be counted among the spineless enablers of Trump voting in favor of patently unfit cabinet appointees including the Insane Clown Posse of DeVos, Perry, Sessions, Carson and a gaggle of dimwits dedicated to tearing down the departments they now lead.

That said, this is not an endorsement of the opposition.

The Democrats are in the same death spiral of irrelevance as the Republicans. In the not too distant future, a majority (not just today's plurality) of voters will no longer associate themselves with either of the political parties constituting our duopoly. Under that circumstance, the question will reverberate "Who are these people and why are they dominating our electoral process when, collectively, they represent so few of us?"

Our Constitution, with its protections and checks and balances, will survive but it will be a grand day when we bid adieu to the calcified political parties which exist only for their own benefit and represent so few of their constituents.

Tyrannosaurus, meet Brontosaurus. See you in the tar pits.

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 07/14/2017 at 7:20 AM

Re: “Flake Takes a Turn To the Right

A poorly written article.

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Posted by fliesbonanza on 07/14/2017 at 7:18 AM

Re: “Flake Takes a Turn To the Right

How the heck is not supporting Obamacare a "turn to the right" especially for a Republican?
Remember pre-existing conditions weren't even covered as recently as 8 years ago. I know that's a long time to remember for an American.

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Posted by bslap on 07/14/2017 at 6:16 AM

Re: “Political Punch

I am far from being anything close to be called or labeled as a Trump fan or supporter.
But, The irrefutable Facts are that protected Free speech has been hindered by threats, physical violence, property damage and outbursts of the far left far more than this isolated Sanders incident where he was shouting and trying to stop Trump from speaking. Bottom line, Sanders's comments are not worth the cost of the ink required to print them, let alone being given the dignity as a lead story in this or any other publication!!

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Posted by David Morthland on 07/13/2017 at 7:31 PM

Re: “Political Punch

@BILOHAK

In all seriousness, name one thing Trump is doing to benefit Tucson?

He doesn't really seem to be able to do anything, and there are so many things that need to be done.

SAD

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Posted by JustMinn on 07/13/2017 at 6:51 PM

Re: “Political Punch

This guy Sanders must be as mentally challenged as he is biased against Trump. What kind of an idiot would go to any event to disrupt the proceedings and oppose the main purpose. I trust the Weekly will give equal time to recognize everything Trump is doing to the benefit of Tucson, Arizona, the U.S. and the world.

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Posted by bilohak on 07/13/2017 at 6:03 PM

Re: “There's Election Integrity, and Then There's Election Integrity

I'm an independent, non-aligned voter veering between progressive and libertarian. In the past election, I was chastised for refusing to vote for Clinton (or for that matter, Trump).

Here's my beef with the Democrats (I have seen the enemy and they are Republicans): decide if you (Dems) want an open party or a members-only club. Open parties hold open primaries - everyone is invited, let's boogie!. Members-only clubs want to see your ID or inked wrist before admitting you to the dance.

Eliminate and disavow Superdelegates. This will gain points from folks who believe in one person, one vote - a quaint notion. While eliminating the obvious references to Orwell's "some animals (the pigs) are more equal than other animals."

Stop taking truckloads of donations from the folks you promise to rein in and impose new regulations on. It makes you look stupid or deceitful (pick your poison). And for goodness sake, don't take millions in speaker's fees from the same folks because "that is what they offered."

The Dems screwed the pooch bigtime, they nominated (with an assist from the DNC) the only candidate on the planet capable of losing an election for POTUS to the biggest and worst joke to ever run for the office in our history.

Ever.

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 07/13/2017 at 5:14 PM

Re: “There's Election Integrity, and Then There's Election Integrity

Proof positive that there is no election integrity.

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-nancy-pelosi-giggles-question-nkorea-aggression/

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Posted by Norm T on 07/13/2017 at 4:27 PM

Re: “Political Punch

And who are they?

http://splcinfo.com/hate-map/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwtJzLBRC7ARIsAGMkOAkweWVK5_QUN-lQ0RcOa1dHhn34bHCzQXmY9i2GHC237KtYKZkMxwoaAjIEEALw_wcB

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Posted by Save The People on 07/13/2017 at 3:59 PM

Re: “There's Election Integrity, and Then There's Election Integrity

Then what did you call the election of Barack Obama, who by all accounts had missed the majority of votes, never run a business, or proposed a piece of legislation, opposed same sex marriage, and touted Christianity as "his" faith?

The Democratic Party dumped Hillary to present us a candidate who was not exactly as he said. Yet voters fell for the hope and change schtick. You were not bothered. Trump comes along and tells us exactly who he is. Enough Americans can look past his flaws and give him an electoral college win. Even in the face of major corporations, the mainstream media, most American colleges and even the Republican party.

I would say you are unable to give voters the credit that they deserve. The nation will survive and possibly thrive the next eight years.

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Posted by Betsy Ross on 07/13/2017 at 3:56 PM

Re: “Political Punch

CW13 So, hate crimes have dropped to about 500 in 2017, and Trump hate crimes make up about half the sample? Naw. They're a drop in the overall bucket that only increased since the Trump election, and you can consult the Southern Poverty Law Center for additional general facts about hate crime.

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Posted by MB on 07/13/2017 at 3:55 PM

Re: “There's Election Integrity, and Then There's Election Integrity

To what extent will a substantially inequitable economic base always subvert a theoretically equitable political / electoral superstructure built on it?

"The market measures influence in dollars, while a democracy, in principle, measure votes. In practice, at some level of inequality, the dollars infect and overwhelm the votes. Reasonable people can disagree about the levels of inequality that a democracy can tolerate without becoming an utter charade. My judgment is that we have been in the 'charade zone' for quite some time."

James C. Scott, Sterling Professor of Political Science at Yale

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Posted by Electoral integrity? Electoral politics measures $s, not votes. on 07/13/2017 at 3:48 PM

Re: “There's Election Integrity, and Then There's Election Integrity

Our Democracy, as any Democracy, is inherently contentious in the competition of Political Ideologies; initially with the Federalists vs. Anti-Federalists; now with, in the main, Democrats vs. Republicans. We have developed, sadly and dangerously, into a "Democracy" that is controlled by powerful Financial Interests Groups that are using their money to "buy" "Politicians" and, as a result, control the electoral process.

The American Voter needs to wake up and participate in the electoral process at all levels of Government; critically evaluate each Candidate, using their notion of what is in the best interests of all US Citizens and their Understanding of our Constitutionally Protected Liberties. We will lose the latter if we do not.

The question is: as a car driving toward a precipice; are we at the fulcrum or have we moved beyond? The Election of Donald Trump is NOT Hopeful and dangerously symptomatic.

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Posted by Francis Saitta on 07/13/2017 at 3:22 PM

Re: “Political Punch

That is exactly why he says we need to build the wall. To keep illegals out. What law did his grandfather break? If you have difficulty feeling normal around family and friends, it may be you.

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Posted by Greg E Peen on 07/13/2017 at 3:01 PM

Re: “Political Punch

I did wonder what really happened. The morning after election night was the first time in my life that I woke up with an anxiety attack at 3:30am. Then I tried to assure myself Trump would step up to the job, but I over estimated his capability.I still have difficulty in feeling normal around relatives and friends who excuse everything this value-free, amoral bag of wind says or does, and that feeling extends to Congress. It would have been so lovely if Austria had only reinstated Trump's draft dodging grandfather's citizenship. That is not an illustrious immigrant family. I guess you could call it an immigration problem along with that of Rupert Murdoch.

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Posted by Peggy Greene on 07/13/2017 at 2:27 PM

Re: “Danehy

Mr. Danehy, I am a donated my hard earned money, ardent Trump supporter who believes that people, specifically Liberals like you have a few screws loose. Now, before you call me stupid, I have BS in Biomedical Engineering from NC State and a BA in English from ASU and worked my entire life, well up to 70 years so far. So, as Farmers' Insurance saying goes, "I know a thing or two because I've seen a thing or two" and I've concluded you have a screw or two loose. You are the epitome of self-interest because if it doesn't come from your twisted mind, it doesn't exist. Get over yourself man or whatever you are and go build a free house like Carter and make yourself useful. Leave God alone because you couldn't begin to understand right, wrong, or faith and he'll take care of you poor crippled folks..

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Posted by Vietnam vet 2 on 07/13/2017 at 2:20 PM

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