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Re: “Parents: VOTE! (For Education)

Yeah, David, thanks much. But I only take information on what kind of votes will actually improve education in Arizona from parents who've raised children IN THIS STATE, using THIS STATE's education systems. Otherwise I might mistake a party line that has little to do with what is needed to properly educate young people, given actual conditions on the ground in the schools IN ARIZONA (see your blog, above, and ad nauseam for the last decade and more) for information about what kinds of political choices will actually improve the cognitive functioning of children in this state.

Unlike some who post in these streams under "used to be a Democrat" or "former Democrat," I actually WAS a Democrat who voted for, donated to, and volunteered with Democrats for more than 30 years. This year, for the first time in my life, I voted straight R, and against the Dem's position on every ballot initiative except the pension issue. Also voted for the first time against funding initiatives within my public school district. As I marked each item, I thought of you and some of your friends and associates. It wasn't so much support for Marquez-Peterson and McSally and Ducey (though I did vote for all of them, and other Republicans) I was expressing, as it was contempt for people who mix notions of "SOCIAL JUSTICE!" and "EDUCATION!" up with lies, exploiting ignorance, and mismanaging public institutions.

Congrats. You've been working so hard all these years, and, let me tell you, you and friends did achieve at least one genuine conversion: mine.

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Posted by A Genuine Former Dem on 10/20/2018 at 12:35 PM

Re: “Parents: VOTE! (For Education)

In the November National/State Elections, the American Voter needs to Wake Up and participate in the electoral process, at all levels of Government; using their notion of what is in the best interests of all US Citizens and their Understanding of our Constitutionally Protected Liberties; that the primary focus of Government is the development of Citizens primarily through Public Education and Health Care; both should be provided at Public Expense and NOT through a "Free Market, Profit Based Economic System" where maximizing Profit and Salaries are the primary motivations and not First Rate Systems of Public Education and Health Care for ALL US Citizens; understanding that the very Nature of the Human Social System involves an Inherent Relatedness, Commonality, and Mutual Dependence; Domestically and Internationally.

The Agenda/Priorities of Donald Trump and his Supporters.

Domestic Agenda/Priorities:

1.) Appeal to His "Base": Racists, Bigots, Neo-Nazis, and Misogynist (like Himself),

2.) Unfettered accumulation of wealth; the tools that His notion of society uses through which Individual and National ambitions for Freedom and Happiness may be reached.

Foreign Policy Agenda/Priorities:

1). Support for Saudi Arabia and Zionist Israel; both receive large amounts of Military Aid, and both are linked to 911 attack,

2). Admiration/Emulation of Dictators.

Donald Trump has Dangerously Divided our Country. He is a Threat to the Stability of our Social System!

We can only hope that the on going investigations by Special Counsel Robert Mueller will uncover evidence that will necessitate His removal from Office, and, the upcoming National/State Elections will boot his supporters out of Office as well!!

VOTE....VOTE in the November National/State Elections for Positive Political Change; The Control of Congress by the Democratic Party!!

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Posted by Francis Saitta on 10/20/2018 at 11:51 AM

Re: “My Pick For Superintendent of Public Instruction: Kathy Hoffman

After Charter Schools in this state open up their books and honestly report for-profit executive salaries, I might only then consider regard them as worthy of taxpayer money.

As a Registered Independent, I agree that Kathy Hoffman is a stand-out candidate with real life professional training and expertise.

(And as for your cheap, trashy comment, No Longer a Democrat, it's drivel, just dripping, hateful drivel.)

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Posted by Constant Voter on 10/20/2018 at 10:06 AM

Re: “Parents: VOTE! (For Education)

Vote Republican if you like the idea of vouchers for everyone who wants them.

Thanks, will do.

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Posted by Thanks for the advice. on 10/19/2018 at 10:40 PM

Re: “My Pick For Superintendent of Public Instruction: Kathy Hoffman

Can't support her; she expresses her policy positions in a way that is misleading and seems dishonest to those who know what the actual effect of one of the policies she discusses will be. Here is the summary of the ESA/ Prop 305 discussion she posts on her website:

"Given our current school funding issues, I do not support the expansion of ESA vouchers and will be voting NO on Prop 305 come November. If passed, Prop 305 would further defund our public schools. This is terrifying. As my priorities include increasing teacher pay and student resources, our school districts cannot afford to have their budgets depleted by vouchers. I support families' freedom to choose the best school for their children. It is critical to have access to a high-quality public school for every child and in every neighborhood across the state. An expansion of ESA vouchers simply does not support that vision of education."

Let's take a look at a few of the assertions in that paragraph.

"Prop 305 would further defund our public schools."
No, Prop 305 would allow parents to take the tax dollars they have paid towards education and apply them in schools that charge tuition. If they leave the public system, the cost of educating that child also leaves. It is a zero-sum game for the public school in question, not "further defunding our public schools." Without ESAs, that money stays in the State of Arizona's coffers unused. With ESAs, it gets applied towards a child's education. People who don't want families to be able to transfer those funds want to use economic coercion to keep students in public schools many of which are not meeting students' educational needs.

"That is terrifying."
It may be terrifying to people who depend for their livelihoods on economic coercion to keep students' per pupil funding in schools that don't meet their needs -- because there is no other way to keep them there when staying is not serving their best interests -- but that is not a reason to keep students in underperforming schools.

"I support families' freedom to choose the best school for their children."
What? No she doesn't. See above.

"It is critical to have access to a high-quality PUBLIC school for every child and in every neighborhood across the state."
There it is. She supports people being locked into choosing PUBLIC schools. Never mind that there are not enough high quality public schools to meet the needs of all those currently in the system, and keeping students locked into troubled schools does not wave a magic wand that automatically improves those schools. We can't improve every school in TUSD overnight and we can't transfer the entire population of TUSD's south and west sides to Catalina Foothills or Tanque Verde or Flowing Wells; there aren't enough seats. TUSD's long, sad history is proof that the economic coercion policy, which has been in place for a long time, does not work to improve schools, and it is poor minority students who have through the decades received the poorest services from districts like TUSD. Students in affluent neighborhoods have done relatively well. So let Fruchthendler and Sam Hughes students stay, if their neighborhood public schools are meeting their needs.

The message of Hoffman and others of her tribe to students in poor neighborhoods, in effect, is: "Your tax dollars can't pay for your child's education unless you use a system in which your local service provider is malfunctioning," That's not JUSTICE, social or otherwise, and if the Democratic Party cared more about education than about their public-institution-intertwined crony networks, they would drop the anti-choice part of their education agenda.

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Posted by Will Democrats ever use HONEST language on education policy? on 10/19/2018 at 11:39 AM

Re: “One-Term Wonder?

Didn't the Clintons get involved in something like this? No never mind, that was in Bill's personal life.

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Posted by Debra Ruiz on 10/19/2018 at 10:48 AM

Re: “UA Campus Health Celebrates 100 Years

...and monkeys should fly but they don't. Sounds like you want to establish a welfare state for students. Many of them can and do pay. It shouldn't be free. Nothing that has any value is.

I searched the UA site and can't determine cost. Can anybody else tell me?

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Posted by Larry H on 10/19/2018 at 10:45 AM

Re: “A Conversation With Brian Smith

Keep it coming Mr Smith, we are listening.

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Posted by Allen Charles on 10/19/2018 at 5:44 AM

Re: “UA Campus Health Celebrates 100 Years

The Cost is irrelevant since Any Cost can be Prohibitive for Students. Medical Care provided by the University Health Center should be Free Charge to Students!

Posted by Francis Saitta on 10/19/2018 at 5:12 AM

Re: “One-Term Wonder?

A word or three about Mr. Clodfelter: It is one thing to forgive and understand. It is quite another to forget that a man who has run in umpteen elections and finally won a seat in our legislature has shown very poor judgment putting his personal life on the internet where it might -- and has -- become public knowledge. And poor judgment tends not to be compartmentalized, as is perhaps demonstrated by the screen saver caper. A son of old Texas chooses not the Lone Star flag to display on his laptop but the battle flag of a cabal of states which sought to defend chattel slavery by armed rebellion against the sovereign United States of America, whose constitution many of their leaders had sworn to uphold.

I'd like to suggest freeing Mr. Clodfelter up to work full-time at his printing business, including the production of yard signs for other people's campaigns. If his clients purchase as many as he has displayed of his own around LD 10 he should never miss his legislative salary.

There is a reason neither of the Republicans elected in recent years to Tucson area legislative seats has survived a re-election campaign. They have been seen to be rubber stamps for their Maricopa-centric caucus rather than supporters of the preferences of their own constituents.

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Posted by franklymydears on 10/18/2018 at 9:23 PM

Re: “One-Term Wonder?

And just when was the last time Democrats redrew district lines? In this state we've had an independent redistricting commission following the 2000 and 2010 censuses. Both commissions were criticized by the dissatisfied. Both gave the state congressional and legislative districts that pretty much favored Republicans. There has not been a Democratic majority in either house of our legislature in decades. As to Congress, we have two majority-minority districts that are fairly safe for Democrats, four very Republican districts and three that are up for grabs.

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Posted by franklymydears on 10/18/2018 at 8:58 PM

Re: “My Pick For Superintendent of Public Instruction: Kathy Hoffman

Horne and Huppenthal,two legislative hacks (sort of like a couple of EVIT employees) who tried to ride racial animosity to higher office. Then Douglas,an obvious incompetent, who was ignored on any education policy by her own party. Might as well try a younger educator, rather than career politician carper bagger from California.

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Posted by Frances Perkins on 10/18/2018 at 6:50 PM

Re: “Candidates on Cannabis, Part 3

Liberal Democrats socialist KYRSTEN SINEMA and DAVID GARCIA are running for Senate & Governor respectively. Sinema / Garcia both proudly supports "restructuring or "abolishing" ICE, sanctuary cities, amnesty for millions of illegal aliens, using taxpayer funds for illegal aliens & DACA. In addition, both are weak on border security and national defense. Garcia supported by both La Raza & MALDEF.

If you OPPOSE illegal immigration, taxpayer funds used for illegal aliens, sanctuary cities, amnesty r Please VOTE NO for KYRSTEN SINEMA & DAVID GARCIA this November....we can't afford anymore Democrats.

Vote Doug Ducey and Martha McSally for Governor and senate.

ote this election for candidates who prioritize citizens over illegal aliens (bet you thought that was a given ...not anymore.) Those who oppose sanctuary cities, open borders, non citizens voting, amnesty for millions of illegal aliens and taxpayer funded in state college tuition discounts for illegals. That means NO Democrats. Democrats want to encourage, reward, protect illegal aliens with jobs, amnesty, drivers licenses, discounts for college tuition, scholarships, then after they're here....protect them from deportation. This creates MORE illegal entry and the Democrats know this.

Recent Gallup poll- almost 60% of Democrats now view socialism positively, little changed from 2010 survey.

The current migration at our southern border is costing taxpayers a Kings Ransom. Fleeing persecution? or fleeing for freebies? they sure don't stay in Mexico when they reach "safety" or ask for political asylum in Mexico. Why? because Mexico will give them NOTHING. So they make the long journey to our border, our generous Democrats and our tax dollars. Just debating DACA in congress is costing taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars..... thank the parents.

Just a few examples of the more outrageous costs associated with illegal immigration, we will pass this burden on to our children and grand children as has been passed on to us.

*The cost of educating illegal aliens children is staggering. From K-12 it costs taxpayers $122,000 for EACH illegal alien student. This does not include the billions spent on bilingual education for illegal aliens.

*Taxpayers in numerous states are funding in state college tuition discounts for illegal aliens. Cost to taxpayers over a billion dollars annually.

*30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.Does not include local jails and State Prisons. At $21,000 per year expense per inmate in Federal Prison U do the math.

*$3Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate, process Illegal aliens in the Criminal justice system. I repeat 3 MILLION a DAY.

*$2.2Billion dollars a year is spent on is spent on food assistance programs such as SNAP (food stamps) WIC, & free school lunches.

If you OPPOSE illegal immigration, taxpayer funds used for illegal aliens, sanctuary cities, non citizens voting, open borders, amnesty for millions of illegal aliens, weak border security, tax increases. VOTE NO for ALL Democrats this November.

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Posted by Mira Dean on 10/18/2018 at 5:05 PM

Re: “UA Campus Health Celebrates 100 Years

I am not sure I understand your complaint. What is the cost for campus medical?

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Posted by Debbie V Altana on 10/18/2018 at 4:13 PM

Re: “UA Campus Health Celebrates 100 Years


Health Services at the UofA are provided, with a COST, to Students. If Students are unable to pay this Health Care Fee , their Bursar's Account is Charged this Health Service Fee. At Graduation, a Student with an outstanding Bursar Balance will NOT receive their Diploma and are denied access to University Transcript Services. In a word: OUTRAGEOUS!!!

The UofA is a For-Profit Business run by the Business Corporation, The Board of Regents

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Posted by Francis Saitta on 10/18/2018 at 3:19 PM

Re: “One-Term Wonder?

If Dems can't win at the polls they redraw the district voting lines. And then claim it's for racial balance.

Why, when they aren't?

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Posted by No Longer A Democrat on 10/18/2018 at 3:04 PM

Re: “My Pick For Superintendent of Public Instruction: Kathy Hoffman

No surprise that you are anti charter. It goes along with being anti child. From abortions to teachers unions, these poor kids can't get a break.

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Posted by No Longer A Democrat on 10/18/2018 at 3:01 PM

Re: “A Conversation With Brian Smith

Yo, Cowboy!

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Posted by Patrick Scott O'Connor on 10/18/2018 at 2:57 PM

Re: “Candidates on Cannabis, Part 3

I don't understand why anyone would be against the legalization. Why? Because they just think it's "wrong" ?

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Posted by Jessica Roberts on 10/18/2018 at 2:18 PM

Re: “A Conversation With Brian Smith

Detroit may not be your home, but we will always welcome you with open arms. Hope your tour swings this way.

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Posted by Vic Doucette on 10/18/2018 at 2:05 PM

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