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Re: “Streets of This Town: Gettin' Lucky

Wonderful photo!
Keep them coming, Brian. You're such an artist with the camera.

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Posted by WilliamD on 04/20/2017 at 6:29 AM

Re: “Libraries Trump Hate

I couldn't agree more about the benefits of libraries.

When I was about 12, It was in a public library in a small rural town back east that I discovered a special National Geographic spread on Mexico. I was infatuated and wanted to visit at once. (I also became the star student in Spanish classes in high school.)

In fact, I could trace that first stirring of that curiosity to my now living close to the border and to spending as much time as I can in beautiful and welcoming Mexico.

To cut Federal funding to public libraries must not happen!

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Posted by JohnT. on 04/20/2017 at 6:23 AM

Re: “Dare to Say, 'Tax the Rich'

Brian, you are correct. France went down the path recommended by Ken Groves above.

Since 1980, France has lost 3 billion hours of work, while the United States has gained 87 billion hours of work. The European Union countries had a GDP 30% higher than the US in 1980, today they have a GDP 20% lower.

Our problem now is that we have added a bunch of Obamacare taxes, a lot of state and city level taxes and another 20,000 pages to the Code of Federal regulations. Small company formation is hugely below the rate of the 80's.

We are now Europe and there are very few jobs for our young adults.

Groves is saying that more of the poison is the cure. He believes Picketty when Picketty says that all modern industrial economies grow about the same. Since when is positive 87 billion equal to negative 3 billion?

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 04/19/2017 at 8:46 PM

Re: “Dare to Say, 'Tax the Rich'

I watched while the Democrats celebrated the death of the Republican Party over the last 8 years, and they forgot to look in the mirror. Democrats are no longer happy with their party. They will split into liberal Republicans and Socialist/Communist/Marxist Democrats. But any way you slice it, they will be the minority. Hard working young people have figured out that once you tax all the rich, the rest of us are next. We must ignore the false promises and get spending under control.

Nothing but more empty promises won't cut it.

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Posted by Debra Holt on 04/19/2017 at 2:52 PM

Re: “Dare to Say, 'Tax the Rich'

Running on higher taxes and more welfare plus dollars for schools with no plan for how that improves education and no plan to curb illegal immigration.
This is probably not a winning platform in Arizona.

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Posted by bslap on 04/19/2017 at 2:45 PM

Re: “Dare to Say, 'Tax the Rich'

But it does work. You just have to know ALL the facts.

However, the numbers, crunched by Heritage's Brian Riedl, show otherwise (see chart below). In 1980, the last year before the tax cuts, tax revenues were $956 billion (in constant 1996 dollars).

Revenues exceeded that 1980 level in eight of the next 10 years. Annual revenues over the next decade averaged $102 billion above their 1980 level (in constant 1996 dollars).

Any increase in budget deficits was therefore the result of spending increases rather than tax cut-induced revenue decreases.

http://www.heritage.org/taxes/report/tax-cuts-increase-federal-revenues

To espouse the contrary is basically ignorant or deceptive.

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Posted by Bryan, CPA on 04/19/2017 at 1:37 PM

Re: “Dare to Say, 'Tax the Rich'

I think the word you're looking for is "regressive," Michael S. Ellegood, not "repressive."

What doesn't work to improve education is handing people like those running TUSD more money without simultaneously increasing oversight and transparency. But that is just what the sold-out establishment Dems keep proposing. Guess they don't realize just how much they have egg on their faces after what has been revealed about what the district did with the 301 funds, or the 123 funds the Dems connected with TUSD helped Ducey secure from the land trust.

But keep talking about "the poor kids!" while averting your eyes from what is actually done with money the Dems have begged for on behalf of "the kids!!!" No doubt some portion of the electorate will always be ignorant enough to keep falling for this shell game.

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Posted by Ever tried ensuring the $$$ goes to "the kids"? on 04/19/2017 at 12:45 PM

Re: “Dare to Say, 'Tax the Rich'

I'm old enough to remember the 'good old days'. The difference between then and today is noticeable. We had strong public schools in most communities, people made a decent paycheck and lived reasonably safely.
What changed, two things, we stopped taxing the the very wealthy and mega-corporations. They both pay about a quarter of what they used to. Corporations paid 30% of the federal budget then, today, 10%. Your taxes, those of the lower 85% of Americans has been raised to cover the some of difference but it doesn't nearly cover everything. Tax cuts for the rich were made, about 14-15 rounds of cuts, on the promise of great rewards for all of us. It never happened. All it did was make the rich tremendously richer, like never before, and cut government services.
Second, the advent of a well funded, extreme hard right echo machine that has saturated the radio dial, and TV to some extent, for the last 45 years or so. For the last 45 years they have maintained 95-98% of all political talk on the radio. Even more, it's been an extreme set of views and largely fact free, relying on a constant attack mode to denigrate any opposition. So extreme that the Russian cyberwarfare division flooded the US presidential election with a partisan attack of full out lies and ludicrous accusations and most people didn't even notice any difference.
Yes, a good start would be to tax the rich, to return to the way it worked.....'in the good old days'.

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Posted by Kenneth Groves on 04/19/2017 at 12:36 PM

Re: “Dare to Say, 'Tax the Rich'

The time has come to start the discussion on raising revenue. For 25 years we have methodically lowered taxes using as a promise that lowering taxes will boost the economy, employment will rise, the economy will boom and the increased economic activity will make up for the short term loss in revenue. But....after 25 years of this it is time for a reality check. Guess what? IT DOESN'T WORK!!!. Instead our state is in an endless cycle of fiscal crisis and, sadly, our greatest resource our kids have born the brunt.
We need to start, at least, to reversing this death spiral, yes we need to raise taxes.
Now consider our choices: Raise income and corporate taxes, raise the property tax or raise sales taxes.
Already our State sales tax is the 11th highest in the nation while our property and income taxes are 5th and 6th from the bottom. Sales tax is generally considered repressive in that it disproportionately impact the poor. So there you have the sad data, read it and weep. Yes we need to raise both income and property taxes. Time to start the discussion. David is right on.

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Posted by Michael S. Ellegood on 04/19/2017 at 11:40 AM

Re: “Dare to Say, 'Tax the Rich'

Let's make some educated guesses about what "support public education" may mean to Democratic Party candidates, based on what kinds of governance and policy our local establishment Democrats have been seen supporting and / or endorsing:

Increase funding to public school districts without taking the trouble to ensure that even the most basic financial transparency and accountability protocols are in place. Look the other way when funds end up pooling in the pockets of overpaid central administrators while classrooms and teachers go begging. Outsource part of your teaching workforce, reducing their pay and destroying their ability to qualify for benefits, which will worsen your existing teacher supply problem and further degrade teaching and learning conditions in classrooms, especially in schools that serve primarily low-SES families. Then, when you campaign for re-election, don't forget to repeatedly state that you firmly oppose outsourcing, while receiving large campaign donations from an executive in the company to which labor has been outsourced. Do nothing to effectively prevent the spread of crap curricula and toxic, mindless multiple choice tests. Then slam the door shut and lock it. Never NEVER tolerate any policy that would allow a non-plutocrat family to remove their children from the mismanaged disaster of an "educational" institution created by a persistent, reform-proof, entrenched and toxic combination of ignorance, cronyism and negligence.

Sorry. Not voting for Garcia or Farley or ANY candidate who is part of the network that is responsible for what some of our large institutions of public "education" (?) have become in Southern Arizona. And, for the millionth time: our schools have become this way NOT just through under-funding. They have become this way also by decades of tolerating and / or encouraging and rewarding egregious mismanagement. We certainly don't need more of THAT, and elevated to state-level, not just local, office.

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Posted by Define more terms and put forward better candidates. on 04/19/2017 at 9:53 AM

Re: “Dare to Say, 'Tax the Rich'

The government is not in the business of improving lives. If they were they would fix the potholes. Their promises and their lies are much much bigger than that.

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Posted by Sandra P on 04/19/2017 at 9:22 AM

Re: “Dare to Say, 'Tax the Rich'

Let me guess. In the Democratic Party dictionary:

--Annual income of 0-$20K per year = poor

--Annual income of $20K - $40K per year = middle class

--Income between $40K per year and the level of income it takes to be a MAJOR Democratic Paty campaign donor = "THE WEALTHY!!!" Tax the hell out of them and if they want to send their kids to college, make them indenture themselves and their kids to the banks to do it.

--Special class never to be discussed: the truly wealthy who fund campaigns. Let them off the hook for everything, always.

The devil is in the details, David. The Democratic Party has been complicit to such a degree with the financial "industry," no plan that omits what is meant by terms like "closing loopholes," "the rich," "the middle class" means anything. We've seen far too many "plans" concocted behind closed doors and sold to constituents who work for a living that sound like they'll defend our interests and don't actually end up doing so.

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Posted by Yup, always make them define their terms. on 04/19/2017 at 8:49 AM

Re: “RIP, Author and Activist Kathryn Ferguson

Kathryn was my dance instructor for 4 years. She was a beautiful person inside and out. We didn't agree on some things but She believed in what she did. She helped young women feel confident about themselves through dance. She was fun to be with and had stories to tell. She was a great film producer and a top advocate for humanity. She will be greatly missed in the belly dance community amongst other areas she participated in. I'm proud to have known a women of her stature and call her friend.

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Posted by Vi Saxon on 04/19/2017 at 7:35 AM

Re: “Dare to Say, 'Tax the Rich'

Define "Rich".

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Posted by Gandalf the Concerned on 04/19/2017 at 7:18 AM

Re: “Dare to Say, 'Tax the Rich'

Smart thoughts David. I have been thinking along these same lines. But, I offer this back. Closing loopholes IS about increasing taxes on the wealthy and maybe a great first step? The second step is that government, more properly funded, can help improve people's lives. Then, the people would be more willing to trust government with more of their hard-earned dollars.

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Posted by Linda Lyon on 04/19/2017 at 6:22 AM

Re: “Dare to Say, 'Tax the Rich'

I heard the former democratic treasurer from California say that unless their party figures out that it isn't about increasing taxes but running things responsibly that they will lose. He said California is on the brink of bankruptcy and "the rich" are leaving the state. He said the majority of the programs are bloated and should be trimmed to save the state from disaster.

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Posted by Doug Martin on 04/19/2017 at 6:19 AM

Re: “Dare to Say, 'Tax the Rich'

Same old same old. Can't you guys come up with one new idea?

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Posted by Debbi L on 04/19/2017 at 5:51 AM

Re: “Cinema Clips: Life

Can't wait!

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Posted by jlm713 on 04/18/2017 at 6:08 PM

Re: “Favoring the 8 Percent, Ignoring the 92 Percent

Nope, it's not about that. Not in the Catholic and Independent schools in Southern Arizona with which I have direct experience. It's about trying to provide a sound and humane education to as broad a band of students as possible in a context where not many people can afford to pay the tuition.

If you think that TUSD is free of the kinds of dealings for which you express distaste, you simply have not been paying attention to what's going on in the district. Try going on the Arizona Daily Star website and typing "TUSD" into the search bar. Read every article published on the district during the last 4 years, keeping in mind that even that atrocious record is selective, and cannot include all the report-worthy things that have taken place.

The Democratic Party in Southern Arizona has not, in my opinion, been an effective defender of what public schools can and should be. They inadvisably excuse way too much mismanagement and they are partly complicit in the overall educational disaster this state has become.

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Posted by Lifeboats are not ideal, but the ship is sinking. on 04/17/2017 at 12:09 PM

Re: “Favoring the 8 Percent, Ignoring the 92 Percent

Republicans work on the principle of " the camel getting it's nose into the tent," first . From that small vantage point they have figured out how to take over an entire system and bend it to their way or the highway. Don't trust a Republican conservative whenever they say it's being done for the good of everyone because that is a bold face lie. Republicans only work for certain constituents and that has been proven over and over but many American voters are so mentally inept that they are oblivious to everything political unless there is a single sentence mantra they can yell at Democrats to express their dubious outrage. When you stand for nothing how could you possibly be offended by anything other than the myths made up in your mind.

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Posted by Beneal Good on 04/17/2017 at 12:05 PM

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