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Comment Archives: stories: Chow

Re: “Standing O


Pacos sucked. The chorizo was dry and flavorless and the burrito was 80% potatoes. I would rather pay $6something at El Pueblito. I guess you get what you pay for! Thanks for the tip either way.

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Posted by HumanBean on 06/12/2017 at 12:26 PM

Re: “Food For Cause

I enjoyed and appreciate this article, but I get increasingly tired of Tucson Weekly not linking to outside sources. Even Stevens has a website:
Peixoto coffee, The Community Food Bank, Tucson Neighborhood Food Pantry, Interfaith Community Services, and St. Vincent de Paul also have websites and social media accounts!

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Posted by Cyndil Smith on 06/11/2017 at 12:26 PM

Re: “Food For Cause

A nice , informative , awesome , review!
Love, MOM

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Posted by Pamm Ferris on 06/09/2017 at 7:02 PM

Re: “Food For Cause


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Posted by SonoranWinds on 06/08/2017 at 7:55 PM

Re: “Nearly Mythical

I've eaten there several times. Their sauces are good as are the vegetables but the meat is not. Both the beef and chicken I ordered (multiple times) were not good: chewy, stringy, or overly tenderized with a bubble gum texture. I really wanted to like this place (I loved Pacific Cafe's food although their service was notoriously horrible--of the Seinfeld Soup variety!) but I've given up trying to find a dish with a decent cut of beef or chicken. I'm shocked the review refers to "local ingredients" because I have a hard time believing meat this poor was locally grown.

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Posted by BuffCrone on 06/08/2017 at 1:12 PM

Re: “Standing O

I am a CPA with several restaurants/bars as clients, Yes, they have all had to raise prices. It is not an exact science, though, on how much to raise them, and selectively on which items.

Those who want to slam the establishments and owners for raising those prices have NO clue, that most are not that profitable and that the owners and their families many times are still in the EITC range of income on their tax returns. Just because you own your own business doesn't mean you are wealthy or even making a good living.

However, on the flip side, several of my clients who are bartenders/waiters/waitresses have said that for the first time, they are actually getting paychecks for more than $0, and haven't had to disgorge some of their tips to pay the Social Security/medicare on their tip income.

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Posted by lc69hunter on 06/07/2017 at 8:02 PM

Re: “Standing O

Food Maven,

I eat at Franks. The $6.40 bacon, eggs, browns meal is not a big plate of food. None of the adjectives Mark used about The O would apply to Franks. The bacon at Franks is see-through thin and in order to actually get a normal portion of bacon you have to order a side, so that is why I priced it the way I did. Have you actually eaten at the O? Because the way you are talking about Franks makes me question if you even eat there! Next thing you'll be telling us about the amazing high quality breakfasts at Brawleys! At the end of the day Franks is just a divey, dirty, greasy spoon with cheap food. You get what you pay for there and I am ok with that. If I want more, I will pay for it elsewhere.


I will check out Pacos and see if I like it. Paco's does not seem to have breakfast burritos or chorizo on their online menu... I will have to go in. Maybe Pacos has smaller burritos or is cutting corners somewhere else, but if they end up being as good as the other places I like, and just as big, I am going to be all in. Thanks for the tip!

My main spot was/is/has been Taqueria El Pueblito but my chorizo breakfast burrito went up to $6.40 after the minimum wage hike. They told me that is why they raised their prices.

I have noticed the same trend all over town, prices have gone up since Jan. I guess to prove it we would have to access historic and current data from an online menu aggregation site to see if our anecdotal experiences are reflective of a real world trend. However, some restaurants have made other changes to cut costs and avoid raising prices. I know that a few have switched to a fast casual model in order to cut down on employee expenses by eliminating serving positions, 1702 is one example. Other restaurants have changed ingredients or portion sizes to avoid a price hike. Some are just operating with less staff and expecting more from the employees they keep. This is all coming from people I know who work in a variety of restaurants/bars. Again, it is all anecdotal because the data is not exactly publicly available to do the statistical analysis necessary to prove it.

If I were paid as a reporter you bet I would tackle this. There is an interesting story to tell and one where the personalities and people behind the food would be really important. I don't know if the Weekly has the muscle to do that kind of statistics heavy investigative journalism but it could be a great read.

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Posted by HumanBean on 06/07/2017 at 6:08 PM

Re: “Standing O

@Staying home to eat: got any actual data for your figures?

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Posted by donkiyoti on 06/07/2017 at 3:57 PM

Re: “Standing O

HumanBean, the very good breakfast burritos at Paco's on Grant are $4.70 (up from $4.35 in February) to $5.45 (same as February, for steak/egg/cheese so your statement doesn't hold water. Thirty-five cents is a pretty modest increase, seems to me.

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Posted by donkiyoti on 06/07/2017 at 3:50 PM

Re: “Standing O


Check Frank's menu out at the link I gave you above. Bacon plus two eggs, home fries or hash browns, biscuit, toast or tortilla ----$6.45. Same crap as the O but over two bucks cheaper.

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Posted by Food Maven on 06/07/2017 at 2:14 PM

Re: “Standing O

I really hadn't made the connection to the minimum wage increasing, but meals all over town seem to be up 20-40%. I remember others warning that would happen. I guess I just didn't think it through. Should have known better after watching the damage it caused in Seattle.

Is anybody better off?

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Posted by Staying home to eat on 06/07/2017 at 10:43 AM

Re: “Standing O

Thanks for backing me up Food Maven!

For $8.75 from The O: Two eggs any style, choice of meat ranging from burly cuts of bacon to a spicy chorizo pile, a ton of hash browns or smashed potatoes and a variety of bread from local bakeries

How much for that at Franks? Well, the two egg breakfast is $4.90 and that does not include any meat. How much for a side of bacon? An additional $3.50. What does that add up to? $8.40 How about the Egg Sandwich at Franks? $8.60! Or the Chorizo breakfast plate? $8.75 Those are the comparable dishes at Franks.

I eat at Franks. The portions would not be described as big and you get what you pay for. The early bird special is tiny and has no meat with it. Add a side of bacon to the early bird and you are suddenly paying over $5.

The point it, if the servings are large, then the prices at The O are not out of the norm and may actually be a good value if the portions are as large as Mark says they are.

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Posted by HumanBean on 06/07/2017 at 9:49 AM

Re: “Standing O

Hey, HumanBean:

Take a look at the breakfast menu at Frank's Restaurant on Pima:

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Posted by Food Maven on 06/07/2017 at 9:39 AM

Re: “Standing O

The prices are not out of hand. As soon as minimum wage went up, food prices followed. You cannot even get a decent breakfast burrito anywhere in town for less than $6 dollars now and most of them are closer to $7.

$8-something for a sit down breakfast plate is close to the bottom of the barrel price-wise and I can't think of any places with a decent breakfast for less. Sure you can get an early bird special someplace for around 4 or 5 bucks but it will be very skimpy and leave you wanting more...

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Posted by HumanBean on 06/07/2017 at 9:27 AM

Re: “Standing O

Not one comment on the actual restaurant. Has anyone actually gone there ?? $8.75 for 2 eggs/bacon/hashbrowns...$8.50 for a salad ????? Good Luck in that desolate part of Oracle.

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Posted by Triplem555 on 06/06/2017 at 7:40 PM

Re: “Standing O

The Big O
would be better...

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Posted by UofAzWildkitty on 06/02/2017 at 9:30 PM

Re: “Standing O

For those WHO ...

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Posted by SonoranWinds on 06/02/2017 at 10:05 AM

Re: “Standing O


They ground you down. Sigh.

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Posted by John Peter Zenger on 06/02/2017 at 7:45 AM

Re: “Standing O

You are doing a great job Mark!

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Posted by John I. Gilman on 06/02/2017 at 7:43 AM

Re: “Standing O

HumanBean, its been a bumpy road with you but I appreciate the feedback. Getting more comfortable with the honor and responsibility of being the Chow writer and allowing myself to relax a bit while sticking to guidelines.

Above all...thanks for reading and your support!

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Posted by Mark Whittaker on 06/01/2017 at 7:16 PM

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