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Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

It's a losing argument when you try to make republicans feel bad for their selfish, inhumane way of thinking. Their mantra is "I got mine, screw you!"

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Posted by Fishfry on 05/05/2017 at 10:32 AM

Re: “Got a Bachelor's Degree? There May Be a Public School Teaching Job Waiting For You.

Indeed, as I have stated elsewhere, this is just the bill suggested by HT Sanchez and Graham-Keegan in the Daily Star some time last year. Don't be fooled--that doesn't make it non-partisan: Sanchez was told by the Board majority that although he was a Republican in Texas he would have to re-register as a Democrat here.....which it seems he never did,(register, that is), or at least he didn't show up on the rolls, despite how often he showed up in the state house to tell them how to educate our kids. This idea was one of his worst, in my mind. As a once- landscaper, I know exactly how respected one feels when the people who hire you are all sure they can do the job better than you can, and that is the sentiment expressed here. Yeah, sure, excite 38 kids all together in a classroom about learning? And then get them to advance and satisfy expectations for the high stakes standardized testing at the end of the semester? Easy. Right? Everyone who thinks that ought to have to do it (but my child will not be available for your experiment). Will Basis be hiring those teachers, Freuchtendler, Sahuaro or UHS? Its just another nail in the coffin of a profession that should be honored and paid above all others, for it is creating and tending the future.

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Posted by Betts Putnam-Hidalgo on 05/05/2017 at 9:59 AM

Re: “Do Arizona Republicans Want to (a) Dismantle; (b) Damage; (c) Degrade; and/or (d) Devalue Public Education?

Did Southern Arizona Democrats want to degrade the quality of services offered in the largest public school district in the region, which serves just under 50,000 students?

Probably not, but that is exactly what they did when they had rock-solid majority control of the TUSD Board 2012-2016. Though I've been a voting, donating, volunteering Democrat in this state and other states, the degraded spectacle of TUSD 2012-2016 will prevent me from voting for, donating to, or volunteering in support of any AZ gubernatorial or legislative candidate that endorsed members of the 2012-2016 TUSD Board majority.

Until the Democratic party stops excusing and enabling the mess that is TUSD, their policy agenda of restricting the use of public funds available for K-12 education to the public district system will be irresponsible and discriminatory, one that, if implemented, would lock minority and lower SES families into "educational" institutions that do not meet their needs. (And no, for the millionth time, increasing funding to TUSD is not all that is needed to improve services to its low-SES students. Anyone who doubts that should take a close look at what was done with Title 1, desegregation, 301 and 123 funds 2012-2016.)

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Posted by Local Democrats have done their share to "degrade" public ed. on 05/05/2017 at 9:58 AM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

To those who are talking about "free stuff" and getting a better "work ethic" and "envy" about rich people -- you are completely out of line.

Don't you know anyone who has diabetes or cancer? Don't you know anyone who works a couple of part-time jobs to make ends meet and gets no benefits from either one? Don't you know anyone whose child was born with a birth defect? Your heartlessness and lack of compassion are appalling. People will die if Trumpcare becomes law.

This bill takes money directly from poor and working people and gives it to the extremely rich, who don't need it at all. Why you would applaud such a move -- which will eventually affect you and the people you love -- is bewildering to me.

You want to make America "great"? Let's join the civilized world and do what every other developed country does (and many not so developed) and take care of each other. There's plenty of money in the United States. We just spend it on the wrong stuff, like trips to golf resorts, multimillion-dollar bombs, and tax breaks for billionaires.

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Posted by blaze_mason on 05/05/2017 at 9:52 AM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

McSally has found a comfortable spot on Trumps lap.

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Posted by ronko on 05/05/2017 at 9:02 AM

Re: “Got a Bachelor's Degree? There May Be a Public School Teaching Job Waiting For You.

Huppenthal - You regularly deride testing as a measure of learning, so when you talk about "academic gains" made by students of various kinds of teachers, credentialed and un-credentialed, what method are you using to measure those gains?

BSLAP - Teaching IS a profession, so your pervasive, condescending contrast of "teachers" with "professionals" makes no sense. The attrition rate in the teaching profession is very high -- among those who do the training and receive certification, a large percentage of them leave the profession during the first three years and never return. Some of those leaving, in my experience, are among those most equipped to provide excellent instruction to students. Why do some of the best candidates leave the profession so quickly? In this state, SALARIES that are shockingly low and insufficient to compensate for the amount of time that must be invested, which for most teachers I know is much more than 40 hours per week. LACK OF RESPECT from parents, many of whom think they themselves are "professionals" and teachers are not. WORKING CONDITIONS that undermine your ability to deliver instruction that is meaningful and effective, e.g. for English teachers, too many sections to teach / not enough planning time / class sizes too large to assign and respond to as much writing as students should be asked to do to properly develop in the discipline. And in recent years, increasingly, externally imposed TESTING and ACCOUNTABILITY regimes that demand teaching to the test and make a mockery of what instruction in a good classroom should be.

Reducing credentialing requirements and eliminating the need for teachers to study child development, pedagogy, and methods in the disciplines may make future "teachers" more vulnerable to the purveyors of crap curricula and scripted instruction who would love to profit from massive adoptions of their shoddy materials without any effective push-back from the professionals who are asked to employ this garbage to "teach" students, but it will absolutely not improve services delivered to students. It will further degrade them in a context in which underpaying, undervaluing, and creating toxic working conditions for teachers has already done much to destroy this state's ability to deliver sound K-12 education.

There's only one thing left both to good teachers who want to teach responsibly and to young people who want to raise families without having to navigate the degraded, unregulated nightmare K-12 schooling in AZ has become: get the hell out of the state.

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Posted by Only one effective remedy left: leave the state of AZ. on 05/05/2017 at 8:31 AM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

bslap and Hard Off:

Asinine commentary and ignorance regarding the issues will get you nowhere.

Please pay more attention and don't bother to make commentary on issues that are too complicated for you.

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Posted by Hard Off deserves a bitch slap in Cuba on 05/05/2017 at 7:10 AM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

McSally, you make me feel sick.

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Posted by Mary Ann Rosas on 05/05/2017 at 6:52 AM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

429-0
Ooopsie!
Bwahahahahaaa!

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Posted by Guitarman61 on 05/05/2017 at 6:42 AM

Re: “Got a Bachelor's Degree? There May Be a Public School Teaching Job Waiting For You.

Reality bites. Long past due.

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Posted by Dave N on 05/05/2017 at 5:59 AM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

Envy will get you nowhere. She was in the Air Force, not the Army, and they don't exist to get you freebies. Punishing success must seem easier than doing something yourselves. Try Cuba.

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Posted by Hard Work Pays Off on 05/05/2017 at 5:57 AM

Re: “Got a Bachelor's Degree? There May Be a Public School Teaching Job Waiting For You.

Fantastic. Nothing against our many wonderful teachers, but lots of professionals I know could teach better than many of the teachers I've met. I'm not sure what they teach in all those teaching classes, but most of it seems to have little or no practical application. I think it's just to get a fancy degree so everyone can feel good about themselves.
Mostly what's required is intelligence, patience, a willingness to learn, and a love of children - all attributes that education students typically possess. Oh, and it helps to know the subject you're teaching, something most education graduates don't.
Professionals could also bring some real world experience into the classroom which would be interesting to students.

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Posted by bslap on 05/05/2017 at 5:49 AM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

Let's get a few things straight. This was not a HEALTH BILL. This was purely a tax cut for the bloodsuckers of this Country who are already filthy rich and never seem to be satisfied with what they have. A $350 Billion tax cut that leaves the most vulnerable people in this society at risk of no or inadequate health care. What kind of "CHRISTIAN" or "JEW" that has any moral compass whatsoever is o.k. with taking away health care from children, from the elderly, from the sickest people in this Country in order to buy more shit that they donl;t need. I hope, that if there is a God that they somehow choke on their greed. As for McSally; she's nothing but a whore for the Koch Brothers who have financed each of her campaigns. Here's my question for you Martha. You claim to have been a pilot and officer in the air force. Tell me something. What is it that you think the purpose of an Army is for our Country? Is it something that exists in order to fuck over the very people you are supposed to "PROTECT"? If its possible to have any emotion at all for you and your ilk in the Republican Party...this morning you ought to feel SHAME above all other feelings.

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Posted by Thomas Borin on 05/05/2017 at 5:46 AM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

Oh no, they're taking our Subsidies, aka free stuff.
Everyone wants them some of that free stuff. You know who can afford healthcare? Doctors, nurses, radiologists, etc. You know who can't? People with no skills, ambition, or work ethic.

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Posted by bslap on 05/05/2017 at 5:43 AM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

She is a useless piece of shit and lets eliminate her and all the others in 2018 !
WAKE UP PEOPLE...QUIT BITCHING AND VOTE !

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Posted by ziggyphan on 05/05/2017 at 5:35 AM

Re: “Got a Bachelor's Degree? There May Be a Public School Teaching Job Waiting For You.

Studies of long term substitutes show academic gains identical to regular teachers.

Stunningly, the coefficient on a master's degree in education is negative, meaning that the students of teachers with masters degrees have lower academic gains than teachers with just a bachelor's degree.

Subject knowledge is the factor most strongly correlated with academic gains of students.

Six months into the job, only 25% of teachers rate the quality of their bachelor's degree preparation excellent.

A culture of continuous improvement is completely absent from our colleges of education.

We can come back 20 years from now and that number might even be lower.

You and your culture had its chance David.

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 05/05/2017 at 5:30 AM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

McSally, voted correctly.

Their are No Congressmen-Congresswomen who have Obama Care that have publicly announced it.. If your so uppity on how good Obama Care is, ARE YOU ON IT? ARE your State and Federal Congress Representatives have Obama Care? If not WHY?

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Posted by Ctengu45 on 05/05/2017 at 12:14 AM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

11/6/2018 let's get this f'ing thing done!

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Posted by AncientPhart on 05/04/2017 at 8:43 PM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

Deaths perpetrated by the state, wrapped in the guise of the law, designed to enrich the rich and eliminate the weak and poor, declared a mandate from the people by the politicians pretending to act upon the will of the people is still murder.

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Posted by sgsmith on 05/04/2017 at 7:08 PM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

Did she really say that while condemning her fellow Americans to suffer long and die early to pay for her overlords' 3 martinis?

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Posted by beardog on 05/04/2017 at 6:40 PM

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