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Re: “The Best Way To Get Results-Based Funding Is To Be Well-Off and White

I have an open mind. Despite hundreds of documented attempts and likely thousands of actual attempts, results-based funding has never worked anywhere in the world. However, our letter grade system now has some unique characteristics to it. It incorporates not just the gain from last years test scores, same student to same student not average to average, but also the two-year gains from the year prior to that. This new aspect increases the very small sample sizes associated with gain calculations and also makes it more difficult to game.

Not only those changes but they also introduced the measurement of gain for low SES students as a separate component. Think about that. How many schools can keep 20 low SES students for two years and provide them with above average gains? Many currently A-rated schools aren't even competitive in this category because they cant' muster that 20. It will be interesting to see how many well-branded schools end up as "Bs" and as to whether the state board will grade inflate next year.

This pressure overwhelmed the board in 2014. Brace yourself for the next assault.

Disentangling the outcome of results-based funding will be a researchers case study par excellence - separating the wheat from the chaf. Arizona is already sporting the highest academic gains in the nation before this "innovation." And, we've had major policy makers waxing poetic about chaf following that outcome.

They key will be to follow the other letter grade states. I would assume that they will be falling in national rank as a result of the deleterious effects of letter grading. But, maybe not. Many of them are also doing multiple policy initiatives.

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 10/05/2017 at 10:59 AM

Re: “The Best Way To Get Results-Based Funding Is To Be Well-Off and White

Are kids attending schools that have classrooms staffed by a rotating cast of long term subs without teaching certification rather than by fully qualified, permanent teachers being given the best possible chance to get the highest test scores they are capable of? No. Every school that has not been able to secure qualified faculty for every teaching position should automatically be exempted from participating in this Hunger-Games-style competition for funding.

In answer to Nathan K: No, giving more left-leaning, unionized workers jobs is not the point. The point is giving all our young people the best possible opportunity we can give them to develop proficiency in the subject areas taught in school. If youd like to re-do the US Constitution, you can remove fully educating every citizen as a goal that should be achieved by our education system. Otherwise, youve got to keep trying to get the job done, in spite of the obstacles poverty presents. This is what underfunding the public education system and / or providing extra funding only for portions of it that produce certain test scores does: it actively undermines our ability to get the entire citizenry properly educated and to have a democracy that functions properly.

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Posted by Democracy requires sufficient funding for ALL schools. on 10/05/2017 at 10:22 AM

Re: “Editor's Note

I wish.

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Posted by Wayne Olson on 10/05/2017 at 10:04 AM

Re: “The Best Way To Get Results-Based Funding Is To Be Well-Off and White

Maybe we should institute reverse results based funding, and give schools with students who have lower test scores more money. We can call it the "silk purses initiative". It would fail, obviously, just like Head Start and similar programs. But more left-leaning, unionized workers would get jobs. And ultimately, isn't that the real purpose of the public education industry?

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Posted by Nathan K on 10/05/2017 at 9:51 AM

Re: “The Best Way To Get Results-Based Funding Is To Be Well-Off and White

@Sabasas: if I recall correctly from your previous posts, you teach at University High School, which tests students for admission to its publicly funded programs and accepts only students with high GPAs and high score on tests of cognitive ability, I.e., you teach a cohort that is without question the easiest cohort in Tucson with which to obtain the high test scores that yield performance based funding. Because of the character of the student population of UHS, fully qualified, experienced teachers line up in droves to compete for any open position at UHS, and new hires often have years of documented history of success teaching AP courses at Catalina Foothills High School and elsewhere.

Should teachers at UHS be outraged that their salaries are not increased with the performance based funding they receive? Depends on how you look at it. On the one hand, all teachers in this state are shamefully underpaid, including those at UHS. On the other hand, UHS has to compete for top students with institutions like Salpointe, which recently introduced a 1:1 laptop computer program and built a multi-million dollar STEM Center, and Catalina Foothills High School, which has much better supplementary funding for technology and other purposes through its foundation than UHS does. UHS already has no trouble attracting qualified faculty because of the selectiveness of its student population, so if they are going to apply the money in a way that increases their ability to compete for top students, there is no reason for them to increase salaries rather than to beef up technology, which they need to do to offer services more comparable to their rivals.

Another point to consider when asking yourself if UHS faculty should be angry that their salaries are not being increased with performance based funding: from a supply-and-demand perspective and from an apply-the-money-where-it-will-go-furthest-in-increasing-quality-of-services-to-students perspective, when you look at the overall staffing situation in TUSD, it would make more sense for funding supplements to increase salaries to be applied in schools that have teaching positions they have been unable to fill with fully qualified teachers than to apply funding supplements to reward teachers of top students who are already rewarded by the relative ease of getting good test scores out of kind of students they teach. But the state legislature does not think that way, and it doesnt seem to occur to TUSD to apply its desegregation funding supplements that way, either, or at least not enough to fill the vacant positions in its schools serving low-SES, high minority schools 100% with qualified faculty.

Mores the pity.

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Posted by Should UHS teachers be outraged? on 10/05/2017 at 9:37 AM

Re: “Editor's Note

This is "The Onion", right...?

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Posted by Jerry Cagle on 10/05/2017 at 9:14 AM

Re: “The Weekly List: 25 Things To Do In Tucson In The Next Week

The Jewish Museum block party is a collaboration with the Mexican Consulate and will also feature live music from Mexico City. Way more than just food trucks.

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Posted by More Than Food on 10/05/2017 at 9:11 AM

Re: “The Power of Positivity

I was on TIHAN's Board of Directors when the idea of the Poz Cafe was brought to us. I was skeptical, not at all confident it would succeed. Sometimes it's marvelous to be proved wrong! Congratulations and thanks to all who have contributed to the 25,000 meal success of Poz Cafe.

Posted by franklymydears on 10/05/2017 at 8:47 AM

Re: “The Power of Positivity

I was on TIHAN's Board when the idea of the Poz Caf was introduced and I was not confident it would succeed. Sometimes it's great to be wrong!

Posted by franklymydears on 10/05/2017 at 8:44 AM

Re: “The Skinny

" One loosened hiring requirements for veterans who wanted to work for the Border Patrol, while another allowed WWII-era servicewomen to be buried at Arlington National Cemetery." Wowee! And consequently the quality-of-life of McSally's constituents has improved immeasurably. Let's hear it from the family's of the WWII-era sevicewomen [great grandmothers] that live in McSally's district. I'm a veteran and only 82, maybe I should consider applying for a job with the Border Patrol. And we pay her salary?

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Posted by DennyG on 10/05/2017 at 8:27 AM

Re: “Editor's Note

Congrats! I was going to suggest you let Ally have the trophy on weekends, but it would probably fall on her head.

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Posted by Peabo on 10/05/2017 at 8:00 AM

Re: “The Best Way To Get Results-Based Funding Is To Be Well-Off and White

Actually simply being well off (i.e., being able to afford to live in a good school district) is sufficient. Looks like a life of working hard, taking risks, saving your pennies, and making good choices pays off for your kids. That's a good thing!

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Posted by bslap on 10/05/2017 at 6:54 AM

Re: “Procession Migration

Please don't go if you're not Mexican-Hispanic because that would be cultural appropriation.

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Posted by bslap on 10/05/2017 at 6:51 AM

Re: “Beef on the Bike Path!

I find most bicylists in the ticson area most annoying..they dont follow the trafgic laws..and think they too cool for the rest of us..its an arrogant culture that needs to change

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Posted by Nick Blum on 10/05/2017 at 6:30 AM

Re: “The Best Way To Get Results-Based Funding Is To Be Well-Off and White

As a teacher at a school which will receive the results-based funding, I can tell you with confidence you are wrong about one aspect. Teachers will not receive one penny. The funds can only be spent on technology and professional development. At least that's what we were told. Should our teachers be outraged?

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Posted by sabasabas on 10/05/2017 at 5:47 AM

Re: “Foggy Forecast

Inform tRump and the Republicans how they can personally make BILLIONS from marijuana sales and they will approve it in a heartbeat as a harmless intoxicant with healing properties.

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Posted by Beneal Good on 10/05/2017 at 5:33 AM

Re: “UA's OSIRIS-REx slingshots past Earth

This is a project that should make all Southern Arizonans proud of the work being done at the University of Arizona.

Posted by Jeffrey Patten on 10/05/2017 at 3:26 AM

Re: “Gabby Giffords on Las Vegas Mass Shooting: "This Must Stop"

Well, that was stupid. Next?

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Posted by Peabo on 10/04/2017 at 9:53 PM

Re: “Why I Keep Writing About Those Damn AzMERIT Scores

I agree with you. But your writing uses too much narrative. TLDR.

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Posted by jabberw0ck on 10/04/2017 at 7:45 PM

Re: “The Best Way To Get Results-Based Funding Is To Be Well-Off and White

Bottom line is you cant establish credibility as a supporter of EQUITY only by criticizing your political opponents policies. You have to prove that your political allies are capable of implementing equitable policies when they are calling the shots. Neither the policies and administrative actions promoted under the previous Democratic Board majority in TUSD Grijalva-Foster-Juarez (which included twice putting forward a patently inequitable Fruchthendler-Sabino pipeline plan) nor some of the actions contemplated by the current Board configuration (which include giving selective-admissions-University-High-School a separete site and removing its faculty and extracurricular programming resources from the Rincon High School campus where a non-selective neighborhood cohort currently shares them) can be understood to be making EQUITABLE access to excellent education a priority in district planning. If you listen to district reps explain the rationale behind their decisions, its not too hard to discern the pervasive, governing idea: Were desperate! Increase enrollment and suck more children into this operation by any means possible equity be damned if it interferes with us attracting more kids, especially when the kids we attract through inequitable programs we introduce can raise our test scores.

Its an ugly spectacle. So again: why should a network which has this track record in TUSD ask the public for the legislature and governorship in the name of EQUITY?

Get a handle on TUSD and turn it into something whose name is not a byword for self-serving mismanagement and injustice, and then come back and ask for control of the state, in the name of EQUITY.

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Posted by And the best way to get your way in TUSD is to be...? on 10/04/2017 at 3:05 PM

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