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Re: “The Koch Brothers Are Spending Money To Make Arizona's Education More To Their Liking

That sounds a lot like the conservative frauds they call Trump and his senseless climate change denying supporters, you know, people such as Wayne Olson.

Way to go Wayne! Now that Ratt and Wrong, Again haven't posted using those names for quite some time...are you vying for their lowly troll status?

It seems to me that you are definitely picking up that mantle. Too bad that you aren't investing your free time more wisely.

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Posted by AZ/DC! on 11/10/2017 at 8:59 AM

Re: “They Have the Meats

Best Damn BBQ in 500 miles!

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Posted by JC 1 on 11/10/2017 at 7:11 AM

Re: “Vintage Vinyl

Nice to see someone in contact with George. He joined The Poppies a couple of months before I left.A superb bassist,just great to work with.Later on Paul Cannella replaced me,and sometime after that Richard Gomez replaced keyboardist Steve Solomon.It's a bit off topic,but Poppies drummer Rusty Terry (RIP) told us right around then that he would have been in the Larry Cox accident if he hadn't declined the job that Rick Mellinger eventually took.
Dave Hopping

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Posted by Dave Hopping on 11/10/2017 at 12:12 AM

Re: “Local Rappers Join Murs' New Record Label


Posted by LEVITZ **CometKid** on 11/09/2017 at 11:47 PM

Re: “Vintage Vinyl

Best band of my teenage years locally. They were well on their way until the fatal accident that took the life of my dear friend Larry Cox.

Posted by Barbara Dillon on 11/09/2017 at 8:04 PM

Re: “Vintage Vinyl

I remember George (Taco) Miraval. Very nice guy. Remember playing football at a park in the center of town. He gave me a hard time for not making a tackle that I should have made. He was right, I should have. Oh, well. Still remember him fondly. He was really was a nice guy.

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Posted by Mike Kennedy on 11/09/2017 at 6:40 PM

Re: “State Grades Are All About the A's and F's

Response to Francis
"....Most education leaders know you have to protect your teachers from unhealthy feedback and focus on human perception of quality. Good teachers and good principals know the relative performance of all their teachers...." Completely Meaningless!!!

Completely Meaningless? Perhaps, but perhaps not. Nationwide, 24% of parents rate their child's school quality an "A" (Gallup poll, Aug 2015)

But, some schools have over 80% of their parents giving them an "A" rating and others are at zero.
The parent rating covers reading and math but also a thousand other things.

Less than 30% of Tucson Unified parents gave them an "A" rating last I looked. 75% of Chandler Unified parents gave them an "A" rating.

There is a difference. Maybe that's why Chandler's bond election passed 64% to 36% and Tucson Unified's failed by 59 to 41%.

Chandler doesn't sacrifice anything on academic gains by holding themselves accountable on parent measures, in fact, they gain. Their academic gains are well above the 50th percentile.

The parent measure also offers a different path to improving academic gains, a partnership with parents, not just looking at students like milk cows.

Plus it creates an overall healthier environment for schools where you value all teachers, history, science, PE, the arts and all subjects equally.

I know both sides of this equation. I was the legislator who brought letter grades and performance pay to Arizona.

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Posted by on 11/09/2017 at 5:15 PM

Re: “The Saga of Three Points

I live in Three Points. It's a town of very open and friendly people. People socialize, ride their horses down the roads, their 4 wheelers, their 4x4's. They hunt, they drink beer, they enjoy their days. It's not as bad as this article makes it sound.

Posted by Jennifer Lane on 11/09/2017 at 3:32 PM

Re: “Get It While You Can

Get it while you can-and take as much as you can. Go ahead it's free. Or at least it's somebody elses money so why worry? All you have to do is stay on the plantation and vote for those candidates that promise the most freebies.

Meanwhile those of us barely above the line will be drug down under the line as we do not qualify for anything except higher rates and higher deductibles. All for one and one for all, really isn't true with liberal progressive policies.

Has anybody even tried to figure out why care is so expensive and what we can actually do to lower those costs? It starts at your doctor's office and then moves to the hospitals. Are we subsidizing health care for illegals?

You can't fix this mess without understanding it. Too many political careers at stake. And that shouldn't be.

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Posted by Wayne Olson on 11/09/2017 at 2:27 PM

Re: “Minor Refugees, Major Challenges

I agree with blsap - these people are illegal economic migrants, and experiencing high levels of street crime does not make you a refugee. A true refugee would stop at the first safe country of refuge, as required under international law. That would be Belize, or Costa Rica, or Mexico. Indeed, the most efficient way for U.S. taxpayers to help refugees is to fund safe housing for them in their regions of origin.

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Posted by Nathan K on 11/09/2017 at 1:49 PM

Re: “State Grades Are All About the A's and F's

"....Most education leaders know you have to protect your teachers from unhealthy feedback and focus on human perception of quality. Good teachers and good principals know the relative performance of all their teachers...." Completely Meaningless!!!

Student/School Scores on AzMerit will indicate the Effectiveness of the Schools/Districts Academic / Instructional Programs, so that, if necessary, remedial action can be taken; that Students are being taught properly and/or effectively learning the required body of information per Subject Area so as to achieve their Career Goals.

Standard Testing (AzMerit) = Teacher/School/District Accountability!!!

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Posted by Francis Saitta on 11/09/2017 at 11:26 AM

Re: “Democrats Luckier Than Education in 2017 City-Wide Elections

Watson may have had a better chance if the GOP hadn't abandoned him. This is a perfect example of why the GOP can't put Republicans in city offices-they either can't find candidates (see Ward 5), put forward Fox News talking point ditto heads (Ward 6), or abandon moderate politicians that actually may win (Ward 6). The last few GOP candidates to win a Mayor or Council seat-Walkup, Rondstat, Dunbar and before that Murphy and Laos. All moderates. And VietnamVet2-its Marx, Karl (with a K) Marx. I learned that during my indoctrination at a TUSD school.

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Posted by retrorv on 11/09/2017 at 11:10 AM

Re: “Minor Refugees, Major Challenges

Refugee camps in Central America?

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Posted by retrorv on 11/09/2017 at 10:50 AM

Re: “Democrats Luckier Than Education in 2017 City-Wide Elections

Brain washing innocent children to believe the garbage Liberals spout out everyday in every school in Tucson is not defined as education; its more more Marks indoctrination. Sort of like the "if you like your doctor you can keep it" or Steve Kozachik is a really nice liar, I mean guy.

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Posted by VietnamVet2 on 11/09/2017 at 10:06 AM

Re: “Vintage Vinyl

Audio at these links
The Five of Us Hey You…
The Five of Us Need Me Like I Need You…
The Guilloteens Hey You…

Posted by Lee Joseph on 11/09/2017 at 9:41 AM

Re: “Danehy

Here ya go...
. Guys wear skinny jeans for the same reason they wear cowboy hats: they are trendy in certain neighborhoods where they live. Remember Lew Murphy and his Guayabera shirt?

2. Jock think is an oxymoron.

3. The women who voted for trump are either well past their child bearing years or are what they think men want them to do.

4. it's 'Merica dang it.

5. Poor folks cannot afford pre-school. If your spouse is a full blown "house wife" in this day and age, they're either retired, or it is 1950.

6. Even Zachary Taylor knew better: "I hope some compromise will be entered into between the two parties, slavery & antislavery, which will have the effect of allaying violent passions on both sides."

7. Happy Birthday. Keep asking questions.

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Posted by Kentop on 11/09/2017 at 7:54 AM

Re: “Minor Refugees, Major Challenges

I must've missed the news about refugee camps in central America. They are not fleeing violence, they are fleeing poverty and coming here illegally because they know there is a good chance they will receive amnesty and jobs.

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Posted by bslap on 11/09/2017 at 6:41 AM

Re: “Democrats Luckier Than Education in 2017 City-Wide Elections

Paul Ryan says "prayer works."

"Trump supporters do exist in Tucson, and many of them were at Las Margaritas Restaurant, Tuesday night, praying (yes, literally praying) that Rodriguez would win."

Apparently, Ryan was wrong. Again.

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Posted by Jeffrey Patten on 11/09/2017 at 6:08 AM

Re: “Democrats Luckier Than Education in 2017 City-Wide Elections

On the zoo propositions, Khmara incorrectly reports: "One passed by 52 percent and the other by 50 percent. It sounds like a win, but well have to see what happens as ballots continue to get counted today."

Here are the election night totals for those propositions, according to the City Clerk's website:

PROP 202

Yes: 35,959 (52.31%)
No: 32,777 (47.69%)

PROP 203

Yes: 35,866 (49.76%)
No: 36,216 (50.24)

While it's true that we'll have to wait until the rest of the votes are counted to know the final result, it is certainly not the case that "one passed by 52 percent and the other by 50 percent," as Khmara states. It's also misleading for a reporter to say "it sounds like a win" in reference to a proposition that got more "no" votes than "yes" ones.

Facts are important. It's always a good idea to check them before reporting.

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Posted by Luke Knipe on 11/08/2017 at 9:11 PM

Re: “State Grades Are All About the A's and F's

The dream of an accountability system that genuinely motivates schools to greater performance is almost undoubtedly a dog chasing its tail - an exercise in futility.

Look at Tennessee, they put in place the most advanced accountability system in the nation based solely on growth in 1992 and promptly started moving downward in their national rank. Here we are 25 years later and few point out that, even after adjustment for demographics and income, Tennessee, the "Education State" is one of the lowest-ranked states in the nation. The "smart" people did that to them.

The entire "growth" measure hope began with them. Why would focusing on growth cause a state to move lower? Answer: we don't measure growth in preschool through 3rd grade, grades that accumulate more than half of all the measurable gain on the 13-year journey from k to 12. The ECLS study also showed that these grade levels were also predictive of later gains- thus even more important than their 55% share would suggest because they have an outsized effect on shaping attitudes towards school which have been shown to be the best predictor of gain.

Thus, the growth measure causes the system to look totally upward when it should have a dominant downward look towards the early grades.

Also, holding teachers accountable for that measured gain proved to be fools gold. Even small samples of Tennessee teachers show astonishing variance. Even pulling samples as small as ten teachers, one of those teachers would have a class gains place her in the top 10%, and another class put her in the bottom 10%. Half of all teachers nationwide who place in the top quartile of gains one year, don't place in the top quartile the following year.

Thus, if you are an inexperienced education leader, you can whip your teachers around with essentially random feedback measures, damage their morale and not accomplish anything. When you subject rats to random negative feedback, unbelievable social pathology is the result. Humans aren't much different.

Most education leaders know you have to protect your teachers from unhealthy feedback and focus on human perception of quality. Good teachers and good principals know the relative performance of all their teachers.

There is a way out of this mess towards clarity but when everyone believed that the sun revolves around the earth, they weren't interested in what Copernicus had to say. And, this situation is even more complex than planetary orbits.

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Posted by on 11/08/2017 at 6:47 PM

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