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Comment Archives: stories: Arts & Culture: Review

Re: “Unapproved Art

What a horrible story by Tucson Weekly and un-American actions by Gipe. How dare you equate anything in America to the horrors under the German socialist party (NAZI).
It seems the extremists on the left cannot argue an issue on its merit, they must abandon reason and civility and start vicious name calling. However, these comments are all too common by leftists hiding their intentions behind a cloak of environmentalism.

The issue is jobs for American workers in a region badly needing them and can environmental mitigation/reclamation meet local, state, and national environmental standards. We all know they can and will, hence the name calling and appeals to the baseist evil in human emotions.

This is what we should be debating in a civil manner--jobs and environmental protection.

Posted by ljlane2 on 06/18/2011 at 4:52 PM

Re: “Lots of Gesture

Costumes are always a valuable thing for us and most of the people will give the first preference to costumes.So,in our life costumes is also one of the most important part.

Posted by bowen on 06/16/2011 at 11:29 PM

Re: “Unapproved Art

There is no way to completely mitigate every impact that comes about because of our standard of living. A hole in the ground is far less than the thousands of square miles of asphalt pavement in our urban areas. including sqare miles of it in Tucson. How much of this urban desert will ever be remediated and returned to nature? Well I guess if you live in the flooded areas in the south, tornado-ripped areas in the midwest, and tsnami zones in the Pacific, you can count on being returned to nature some day. Thank God we live in Arizona. The mining areas have tons of wildlife including birds, bighorns, mountain lions, reptiles, and raptors. The animals adjust to big equipment and periodic blasting noise. They're safe from hunting and often have permanent sources of water.

Posted by SilverSaguaro on 06/01/2011 at 9:26 PM

Re: “Unapproved Art

Wow! It will be hard to find an uglier way to put down Rosemont! If I knew that both the author of this article and the painter had an open mind, I would recommend that they visit with the staff of the Rosemont Mining Operation - and learn what is being done that will benefit the community, Pima County, the State of Arizona and the U.S.A.! Pete I.

Posted by Pete I. on 06/01/2011 at 7:11 PM

Re: “Unapproved Art

WOW! Really? I have real difficulty seeing how Rosemont information could possibly be compared to Nazi propaganda. If this was done to lean on the 1st Amendment Rights to be as negative and nasty about an undertaking,the author and the painter dislike, for whatever seemingly unsupportable reason, they have been very successful. I hope they are proud of this very ugly way of voicing their opinion! - Pete I.

Posted by Pete I. on 06/01/2011 at 7:02 PM

Re: “Hooked on Clay

I just took up ceramics about a month ago when I turned 50. I too can't draw and knew I had some hidden talent for art. I am taking baby steps, but I'm hooked already! It is the most relaxing and exciting thing I've done in years:)

Posted by sallie on 06/01/2011 at 5:22 AM

Re: “Unapproved Art

As a patron with immense positivity about local Art I must, "re-contextualize " my perception regularly to maintain my enormous clarity of the market...I encourage both local artists and local patrons to do the same...

Posted by Oracle Jayne on 05/30/2011 at 12:02 PM

Re: “Unapproved Art

I fully support Rosemont Copper and there mine and belive they have great ideas and will follow through with them to help not only our community but out enviroment.

Posted by Lori Chavez on 05/27/2011 at 12:53 PM

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White Stetson...Are you insinuating that those who oppose Rosemont Mine are "living off the good will and charity of our nation?" What a ridiculous and uninformed statement! Is one to conclude that you consider social security--- charity? OR do you assume that those opposed to this mine are on welfare and food stamps? What is your point?

As for the unreasonable voices in the "choir," rest assured that those folks have also been studying Rosemont Copper longer than your two year time frame! Opposition opinions are based on facts most of which are contained in the Mine Plan of Operations. We have "looked at this horse very carefully" also, and we have heard the misinformation straight from the horse's mouth! We have seen through the corporate image this company tries to project, including the community contributions, all to enhance that image. You have simply elected to drink the Rosemont kool-aid while we have not. We know the negative effects this mine would have on our community--- and we recognize propaganda when we see and hear it.

Posted by jom on 05/27/2011 at 12:46 PM

Re: “Unapproved Art

Thanks Margret for bringing my attention to this exhibit. I went yesterday and loved it. Two thumbs up. Seeing the Rosemont Copper girl in context with the other paintings was brilliant. Spot on.

Posted by kziptr on 05/27/2011 at 10:49 AM

Re: “Unapproved Art

By April of 2009, our company had been forced to send over 100 proud working Arizonans home. They lost their jobs, because our company lost the revenue needed to keep them employed. Those folks were skilled and motivated, but that did not change the reality of the fact that we did not have the work nor did it change the reality that they landed in an environment where jobs were scarce and well paying jobs even more scarce.

Now, we have a company like Rosemont. They have come to our community and over the last two years I have watched their company set a new standard for community investment and corporate responsibility. Although there are many unreasonable voices in the "choir", the reasonable and informed folks among us know that the position established and held by Rosemont is one of superior planning, environmental stewardship and the helpful "old west spirit" of which I am very personally proud.

For all of the folks who have jobs and are able to pay your own way as well as those folks who are fortunate enough to live off of the good will and charity of our nation, but who oppose the development of the Rosemont project, I ask you to please be willing to learn the real facts about Rosemont, to speak with Mr. Pace and see for yourself his personal willingness to answer your questions and show you some of his other work.

There is an old west saying, "you don't look a gift horse in the mouth". But when it comes to protecting our environment, I think we need to depart from that old cowboy's rule. We need to look at this "horse" very carefully. However, I have looked Rosemont in the "mouth", and I like what see. I pray for some of our former employees, that they will be afforded an opportunity like Rosemont, to restore their pride and prosperity.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions and this artist is obviously willing to offer his own. But a biased and inflammatory opinion coming from a person who "has his" is just that, an opinion. Don't be the person who helps to portray "Chicken Little" as the smartest animal in the barnyard. Find out the facts for yourself!

Posted by White Stetson on 05/27/2011 at 8:55 AM

Re: “Unapproved Art

It's a good thing we live in America, because if we didn't this article would have never gotten printed nor the picture been hung up. This is Arizona and we are The Copper State. We need our mines, we need Rosemont Copper to keep our state going. So our taxes aren't raised and we don't have to cut any more funding from the elderly, our schools, and yes even our forest services. We have another business wanting to bring money to our state , welcome them with opened arms it is for our Copper!

Posted by bootz on 05/27/2011 at 6:36 AM

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In trying to draw a link between Rosemont Copper's PR campaign and the Nazi propaganda machine, it is actually Lawrence Gipe, who is actually attempting to make some cheap, self-serving political statement at the expense of the millions, who suffered and died during the Holocaust.

Posted by D. Briggs on 05/27/2011 at 6:15 AM

Re: “Unapproved Art

Tucson should be so lucky to have an opportunity to provide well paying jobs, jobs that offer health care, very good health care benefits, 401K savings plans and posibly a retirement plan. Unemployment rate is high, the presidency is struggling to provide some kind of health care for Americans and there is a big resistence to stop the developement of a previously mined copper ore body. There is something really wrong here. I go along with John 85, those of you who are so dead set on mining in America can quit using the copper by products that get used as a result of mining in Arizona. That's right, I said it. Turn in your cars, turn off your AC units, and everthing else that uses copper for a more comfortable life style. Put up or shut up. This is an opportunity for many people to draw a nice wage and provide for there familys. Do the right thing, give the people an opportunity to earn a good honest living. It spreads to the families, children, and community. Communities like Ajo, Bisbee, Douglas, Morenci, and now Safford, as well as several in New Mexico have benefited hugely by copper mining in Arizona.

Posted by capolina on 05/27/2011 at 1:58 AM

Re: “Unapproved Art

Jom, I hope you're trying to be funny.

Posted by john85629 on 05/26/2011 at 8:57 PM

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Are mining companies not required to operate responsibly if they are mining in a third world country? Are they only responsible if the law requires it? Is there no corporate code of ethics among mining companies?
How would copper mined by an American subsidiary of a Canadian company affect the US trade

Posted by jom on 05/26/2011 at 8:51 PM

Re: “Unapproved Art

The comparison of Rosemont's PR campaign to Nazi propaganda is a narcissistic, self-serving attempt to sway public opinion. Not only does it cheapen the significance of the Holocaust, but it is also disrespectful of the millions of innocent victims, who suffered and died at the hands of the Nazis during World War II.

Posted by D. Briggs on 05/26/2011 at 7:22 PM

Re: “Unapproved Art

Jom, if you are so dead-set against mining, I would invite you to stop using any products that are mined, or produced with mined materials. This part of Southern Arizona has been heavily mined for generations because this is where the copper is. Would you rather have it produced in third-world countries with no environmental controls at all, or would you like to see it produced in the USA, where it can help balance our tremendous trade deficit?

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Posted by john85629 on 05/26/2011 at 6:23 PM

Re: “Unapproved Art

What can Rosemont Copper do about the one square mile 2900 ft deep hole in the Santa Ritas that would "raise the environmental standard of mining operations?" The same question for the mountain of waste rock and tailings covering 3500 acres of Public Land. I've seen the "after" rendition of the "reclamation" and I see nothing there to suggest a "higher environmental standard." As for Arizona history, we are reaping the results of that history now with polluted mines seeping toxic fluids, 350,000 acres of tailings piles blowing in the wind throughout the state, boom/bust ghost towns, polluted streams and aquifers---mining is not the most important pillar of the AZ economy today and Tucson is seeking more tech and medical business investment,along with tourism. Spoiling the beautiful landscapes is akin to killing the goose that laid the golden egg. Rosemont jobs would come at great cost to local economies and to the environment and to an area enjoyed by the public on a regular basis, including portions of the Arizona Trail which would be buried by the waste piles! The Rosemont deposit is low quality as evidenced by the ratio of ore to waste rock---1.9 billion tons of waste for 600 million tons of copper- bearing ore over the life of the mine. This mine at Rosemont Junction is a bad idea and I have also heard that stated by former miners! Mine the reserves at other mines in valid mining districts where the environment has already been destroyed!

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Posted by jom on 05/26/2011 at 4:40 PM

Re: “Unapproved Art

The writer has drawn parallels between different subject matter. The subject matter must meet certain requirements of similarity to evidence the parallel drawn. The Nazi did horrific things to people and to try and attach these heinous acts to Rosemont Copper is slanderous and ridiculous, to say the least. To draw a parallel between propaganda the Nazi used to convey an image and of a young girl utilizing alternative energy is about as bizarre as a University of Arizona professor plagiarizing the same photo and repainting it to meet his Nazi standards for propaganda. Humanities such as painting are subjective and hope to convey a unique way the artist presents a subject, this is the painter or photographers gift to society. It can lead to a better understanding of the subject matter, as seen in a unique way. A painter or a writer can change a subject into another outlook, good or evil. When I see this picture, I see an intelligent looking and dignified young girl holding an integral and world saving solution to her future – an alternative energy source. Alternative energy will require more copper to make, approximately 35% more copper in many applications.
In addition, this child is a real human being that was used in an appropriate manner, by drawing the twisted and invalid parallel in print and in repainting this child to fit into a Nazi propaganda category has diminished the positive message of our children and alternative energy use. People will sometimes get carried away with their points of view and try to convince others to their point of view - as is this case of this writer and this painter who sees this beautiful and positive representation as part of twisted evil thinking.
Truman W.

Posted by TrumanW on 05/26/2011 at 4:18 PM

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