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Re: “Doug Ducey, CEO

I have my head up my ass so far that I can't even think straight. Funny thing is, I never could in the first place.

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Posted by Hillary For Prison 2017 on 06/09/2017 at 10:35 AM

Re: “Southern Arizona Stands Against Proposed Border Wall

Rick. On further reflection I take back what I said. I've read many of your posts in the past. Although I rarely agree with you, you make your points without insults or name calling. You and I will never agree, so let's leave it at that. I did get a kick out of your remark low information voters. A phrase often used by Rush Limbaugh. Since you seem an intelligent person just answer this. How can Trump succeed when even his own party goes against him? How about giving him a chance. If he fails I'll be first to bitch. Once again please accept my apologizes.

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Posted by CW13 on 06/09/2017 at 10:23 AM

Re: “Southern Arizona Stands Against Proposed Border Wall

Never listen to MSNBC and can't stand Rachel Maddow. Never listen to faux news except for an occasional laugh.

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 06/09/2017 at 10:13 AM

Re: “Southern Arizona Stands Against Proposed Border Wall

If you would stop listening to MSNBC, you might learn something.

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Posted by CW13 on 06/09/2017 at 10:01 AM

Re: “Doug Ducey, CEO

But that is no different than what we witnessed yesterday in the Comey FBI hearing. Comey admits he was the leaker to a prof @Columbia and NBC reports "it was a bad day for the President." Really? I thought America realized it was being served by a buffoon in the FBI and I wonder how much other damage was done. The polictical lines have been drawn so far and so wide, we don't even know all the motivations. But Comey did back off Hillary investigation when Loretta Lynch pressured him. Why is that not considered election tampering? That's exactly what it was. Trying to control the outcome by unscrupulous means.

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Posted by Hillary For Prison 2017 on 06/09/2017 at 9:20 AM

Re: “Doug Ducey, CEO

Yes, Pima Mujer, the Republicans in Phoenix have found ways to avoid funding TUSD and Sunnyside.

Why do you think that is? Do you think it has anything to do with the political networks interwoven with the governance and administration of those two districts?

In May 2017, HT Sanchez gave graduation speeches at two TUSD schools, apparently in ways that violated the terms of his separation contract with the district. He also signed the diplomas for this year's graduates -- diplomas issued about three months after he was forced to resign, leaving parents asking if the diplomas were even valid.
http://threesonorans.com/2017/06/03/mark-stegeman-addresses-ht-sanchez-possible-violation-of-termination-contract-trespassing-on-tusd-schools-was-forbidden/
http://threesonorans.com/2017/05/28/did-ht-sanchez-violate-his-termination-contract-last-week-which-banned-him-from-tusd-schools/

According to one of the sitting TUSD Board members, permission was granted to Sanchez to deliver speeches at these events by TUSD administration, without TUSD Board members being notified.

What was this supposed to show to the public? That some of the district's representatives have no respect for their own governance structure and no respect for contractual obligations? That they will do whatever they want and thumb their noses at any authorities -- including the voters and their elected representatives, including, in many, many instances in the past, the desegregation authorities -- that disagree with what they want to do? Great example they are setting for the students in this district, making a spectacle of their willful disregard for our federal court system and the democratic governance structure of a public school district. And we're supposed to believe this way of organizing an education system is preferable to what takes place in charters? Why exactly would that be?

They are no better than Ducey is.

We seem to have entirely lost the ability to deal with education as a Common Good in this state. It should be about providing the children of every citizen with as sound an education as possible, not handicapping and crippling institutions associated with the other side of the political fence. The children of Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Greens, Independents, and the politically apathetic all need to be educated here. Sufficient funding and the same oversight and accountability standards -- financial standards, teacher credentialing standards, curricular standards, etc. -- need to apply to all institutions receiving public funds.

Instead, we have the non stop mud-slinging and mutual sabotage of two irresponsible party machines.

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Posted by Increased funding without increased oversight won't help. on 06/09/2017 at 8:49 AM

Re: “Doug Ducey, CEO

To BSLAP: Saying all day kindergarten is just daycare just shows how out-of-touch you are. You know not of which you speak, please get better informed.

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Posted by Linda Lyon on 06/09/2017 at 8:41 AM

Re: “Doug Ducey, CEO

All-day kinder = taxpayer-funded daycare.

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Posted by bslap on 06/09/2017 at 8:28 AM

Re: “Southern Arizona Stands Against Proposed Border Wall

You want a more secure America and believe a half-assed wall will do the trick?

I have better Ideas and suggestions for Orange Caligula:

Take Russian interference into US elections seriously. They are not our friends and are laughing at you.

Don't align our climate policy with the only nation on the face of the earth that never signed onto the Paris accords because its brutal dictator was too busy committing genocide against his own people.

Develop even stronger ties with our traditional allies and treaty partners. Duh, these are our friends.

Read the freaking Constitution and if it's too complicated, hire a tutor.

Stop lying to your base of low information voters with promises you laugh at behind their backs.

Hire come competent help...you need to stop making a fool of yourself

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 06/09/2017 at 8:17 AM

Re: “Doug Ducey, CEO

My favorite Ducey bait and switch is the state paying for full-day Kinder, but only if the district as a whole has above a 90% free or reduced lunch rate. TUSD and Sunnyside get nothing, but 29 charter schools qualified.

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Posted by Pima Mujer on 06/09/2017 at 7:28 AM

Re: “Southern Arizona Stands Against Proposed Border Wall

Just curious. What have you got against a more secure America?

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Posted by CW13 on 06/09/2017 at 7:28 AM

Re: “Peter Needs a Home

I'm interested. Will try and come by tomorrow

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Posted by Jude6x2 on 06/09/2017 at 1:06 AM

Re: “Southern Arizona Stands Against Proposed Border Wall

There is zero chance that this wall will be built. Anyone who has walking around sense knows that building it is impossible. The Indians have already said there will no wall on their land. Border people, who voted for Trump don't want it on their land. California will never allow it on their border. There are many places in Texas where buildinga wall is virtually impossible. You wall-lovers have not thought this out. You will all be dead before this wall is built. Grow up. Get over it. Your wall is just silly.

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Posted by Notonmyland on 06/09/2017 at 12:41 AM

Re: “Southern Arizona Stands Against Proposed Border Wall

Trump may not have gotten more votes, He simply won the election. Hillary had too many liberals in too few states. That's how she lost. By the way did somebody here say he won the popular vote, or did they say he won the election?

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Posted by Tania Pezzole on 06/08/2017 at 9:30 PM

Re: “Doug Ducey, CEO

Once upon a time there was a CEO who fell under the sway of an Evil Magician who believed in strange and irrational theories about an "Invisible Hand" which super-naturally controlled the operations of the manufacturing plants in the CEO's corporation. Another doctrine of his was that of "constituent investment" which magically appeared to fund things in the manufacturing plants which the CEO refused to fund. Receiving direction remotely from this evil magician who cooked up boiler-plate directives in his magician's lab on a remote mountain top, the CEO used these formulas to change governance in the corporation and to strip away every form of beneficial oversight and funding which actually kept the manufacturing plants functioning well and producing the desired goods.

Some of the manufacturing plants were small enough and cohesive enough that their workers and the communities surrounding them kept them on track in spite of the lack of oversight and funding. But there was one particularly large, particularly important and previously troubled manufacturing plant that went completely awry. It started manufacturing products exclusively for its management and their friends and entirely lost its sense of responsibility to its customers among the general public. It developed elaborate relationships and defense mechanisms that allowed it to remain completely impervious to complaints from customers who were not receiving the goods ordered from the company.

The CEO, still under the sway of the evil magician, believed he could solve the problem of the rogue manufacturing plant by bringing in a plant manager who also believed the doctrine of the Invisible Hand, and who would even further degrade and undermine beneficial local forms of oversight, on top of the higher level forms of oversight which the CEO had already destroyed. As a result, the products became even more shoddy and the customers even more dissatisfied.

The customers were so enraged that they managed to overturn the plant manager and then, emboldened by their victory, they said to themselves: the root of this problem is the CEO. Can we get rid of him?

This story might have ended well, but unfortunately, there were many among the rebels who believed in a theory just as strange and irrational as the theory circulated by the Evil Magician. This theory stated that increasing funding to the manufacturing plants -- all of them, including the most troubled among them -- would immediately solve all the problems with the faulty product, without a concurrent increase in the oversight and "quality control" that had been missing under the reign of the Evil Magician who believed in the Invisible Hand. A White Knight appeared on the scene who painted beautiful pictures of a rosy future with perfect products and blissfully satisfied customers. His beautiful visions swayed the customers and stockholders and they achieved their goal of replacing the CEO who had been a disciple of the Evil Magician.

But all too soon, the customers noticed that increased money did not solve the problems and deficient products continued to be manufactured. The customers, enraged that the beautiful future promised to them did not materialize, got rid of the White Knight CEO at the earliest possible opportunity and rule of the kingdom returned to the Evil Magician and his agents of the Invisible Hand.

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Posted by Improve your allegory. on 06/08/2017 at 9:07 PM

Re: “Southern Arizona Stands Against Proposed Border Wall

The number of people who still think Trmp got more votes still amazes me...

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Posted by Cascabel on 06/08/2017 at 5:39 PM

Re: “Southern Arizona Stands Against Proposed Border Wall

The wall was a major issue in the federal election. Thus being a federal wall, it passed the only poll that matters. The 2016 Presidential Election. Why would you negate the legal results? Votes matter.

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Posted by Tania Pezzole on 06/08/2017 at 4:07 PM

Re: “Doug Ducey, CEO

"The plant workers are unhappy."

In the real world those people would change jobs. And most that have some intrinsic value do. But when it's government they unionize and whine until they get what they want. Glad they didn't taint my children's view of a successful career.

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Posted by TUSD should be ashamed on 06/08/2017 at 3:07 PM

Re: “Southern Arizona Stands Against Proposed Border Wall

In poll after poll, people resoundingly oppose the border wall, and those numbers are even higher in border states like Arizona, and even higher in border communities like Tucson, Nogales, El Paso, et al.

It's called data, and it exists irrespective of left, right or in between. People oppose the border wall because they know that it does not work, it is hugely expensive, and it does a lot of damage.

Moreover, even right wing security experts and Republican congressmen have stated very clearly that a border wall is "the most expensive and least effective way of securing the border", so if that's all you care about (which seems to be the case for a lot of paranoid old white guys), then you are the one who is delusional if you think the wall will do anything to address the problem.

If you like walls so much, why don't you move to communist Berlin? (Oh wait--they tore that one down...never mind...)

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Posted by skinnyman on 06/08/2017 at 1:54 PM

Re: “Southern Arizona Stands Against Proposed Border Wall

The PEOPLE of Southern Arizona stand up to Oppose the Wall?

Where does the author of this article get this BS?

On November 7, 2016 the "People of Arizona" resoundingly elected Donald Trump as President, primarily on the basis of his promise to put up the wall and expel Illegal Aliens from this country!

Left Wingers are Delusional; they think just because they SAY something that it becomes TRUE!

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Posted by KitWarden on 06/08/2017 at 12:38 PM

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