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Re: “Rep. Grijalva Sues Trump Administration Over Border Wall

"Any balanced discussion of this issue should include consideration of the environmental costs..."

Only in liberal la-la land Tucson, 5th poorest in the country.

Was there an environmental study for the Great Wall of China?

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Posted by What, Again on 04/13/2017 at 2:53 PM

Re: “The Skinny

I'm liberal on most issues, but I don't get why most liberals are against vouchers. The state is still funding education, they are just allowing the funding to be used by different schools. Given that the U.S. spends more on public education per pupil than most developed nations (yet has less to show for it), I don't see much of a downside to seeing if private schools can make better use of the money. If it turns out that they do a good enough job that some public schools shut down because the students that used to go there are getting a better education, isn't that a win for everybody?

6 likes, 32 dislikes
Posted by LazyToad on 04/13/2017 at 2:32 PM

Re: “In 13 Years, Every Private School and Home-Schooled Student Could Have a Voucher

Nope, I don't buy it. I bought it four years ago, when I fell hook line and sinker for TUSD's propaganda about how all their problems were the result of the mean Republicans and their draconian funding cuts. And then I watched TUSD for closely for four years while one of my children was enrolled in it. Yes, the funding is insufficient, but in the humble opinion of someone who has watched the Board meetings and taken an interest in policy implementation and funding allocations on a few of the school sites, the district has also been poorly administered and the funding available to it has not uniformly and competently been applied for the benefit of students. Until the district is effectively reformed -- if at this point it CAN be reformed, which many who have had extended contact with it have good reason to doubt -- (again, my humble, but experience-based OPINION) students do need to get out of it. And they shouldn't be penalized financially for recognizing a sinking ship for what it is. Nor should they be disparaged by a political party that is supposed to effectively DEFEND, not disparage and insult, the working class.

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Posted by Yes, by all means, let's have straight talk on the subject. on 04/13/2017 at 2:26 PM

Re: “Editor's Note

If you don't know ... what I do is always ask first if I am interviewing someone who is transgender or genderqueer. I always ask what pronouns "they" prefer. "They" is great, but if someone tells me specifically what "they" prefer, that's what I go with.

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Posted by Aztlán Mari on 04/13/2017 at 1:26 PM

Re: “In 13 Years, Every Private School and Home-Schooled Student Could Have a Voucher

Lets be straight here. Public schools are falling behind in red states because they don't fund them fully. Period. You can point to national statistics that show privet elementary schools charge on average about the same as what we spend on public schools in red states but those figures are very misleading. Many, if not most are religious schools that subsidize half the bill. Public schools are what in the private world would be called 'Day Schools'. They tend to spend 15,000$-30,000$ per student while we spend here in AZ 7,2500-7,500$ per student. I'd say it's pretty clear you can't get a 15,000$ education result for 7,500$. So when you say our schools are failing, yeah, it's obvious why. . .…

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Posted by Kenneth Groves on 04/13/2017 at 1:17 PM

Re: “The Skinny

I love the way you dismiss the poor. They deserve access to the best education. And by the way, this term "a traditional public school," has been replaced with, another failing public school.

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Posted by TUSD should be ashamed on 04/13/2017 at 1:17 PM

Re: “Rep. Grijalva Sues Trump Administration Over Border Wall

Any balanced discussion of this issue should include consideration of the environmental costs of an unsecured border:

- Migrants and smugglers dump an estimated 2,000 tons of trash and human waste in the borderlands every year - most of it in areas where it is very difficult to remove. (See

- Migrants and smugglers had cut an estimated 1300 miles of wildcat trails in the borderlands as of 2006. (See…).

-Moreover, illegal aliens and smugglers regularly set wildfires, both to summon aid or to distract CBP, destroying hundreds of acres of vegetation a year. In fact, migrants are suspected of causing many of southern Arizona's most devastating fires of the last few years (Horseshoe 2, Monument, etc.). (See…).

Would a wall have some environmental impact? Sure. But so would doing nothing. Let's try to keep some perspective on both sides of the issue.

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Posted by Nathan K on 04/13/2017 at 11:12 AM

Re: “Sci Fiesta

No net every scientist sir. Hundreds if not thousands have recanted their opinions based on peer review.

"The survey found 97% agreed that global temperatures have increased during the past 100 years; 84% say they personally believe human-induced warming is occurring, and 74% agree that "currently available scientific evidence" substantiates its occurrence."

By the way, 100% of scientists polled believe that temperature measuring devices have improved accuracy dramatically over the last 100 years and that the increase amounts of paving and concrete may have contributed the most to low level increases.

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Posted by Hot Dog Weather! on 04/13/2017 at 11:08 AM

Re: “The Skinny

What, Again. Parents have always had a choice of where to send their kids. Now the rich parents will get to be subsidized when they send their kids to a private school. I thought you were against using tax dollars to underwrite private ventures.

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Posted by retrorv on 04/13/2017 at 11:05 AM

Re: “Rep. Grijalva Sues Trump Administration Over Border Wall

Herculio Arrellano was arrested yesterday in Mexico and is being extradited to to Tucson to stand trial for the murder of BP agent Brian Terry. He was shot and killed by firearms that the Justice Dept under Obama had supplied to the Mexican drug cartels. He was arrested by using DNA matches from the water bottles that he left in the desert. I wonder who put those there for him?

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Posted by Denise Allen on 04/13/2017 at 10:45 AM

Re: “The Joy, the Suffering, the Poetry

TC, thank you for sharing your story and your poetry. This particular version of your life resonates with me, as I too enjoy writing, I too am a gender outlaw, and I too live with severe, chronic pain; mine the result of a spinal cord injury. I see youth in your courage and wish you the best in all your endeavors. I will not recover. I write as an ongoing form of treatment for both my spirit and my broken pieces and writing prose- poetry is the dogma of my religion. Although I've published a few small bits here and there, and I've enjoyed working with youth and adults in drug/alcohol treatment to support others to find the beautiful music of their own voices, my work has reached limited audiences. It's wonderful to see you getting out into the wild world running with kite high so that many people enjoy your gifts and benifit from your wisdom. Blessings to you.
With great respect,
Patrick Skater

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Posted by Patrick Skater on 04/13/2017 at 10:15 AM

Re: “Going Out of Style

I enjoyed "Going in Style" very much! I am 80 years young, and the movie gently poked fun at our foibles without making us look like dithering idiots. It was a gentle and humane comedy! Mi Gusto!!!!!
DZ Sortland

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Posted by Deena Z Sortland on 04/13/2017 at 10:08 AM

Re: “Rep. Grijalva Sues Trump Administration Over Border Wall

Trump is spending the American taxpayers money for his grandiose ideas and his Trumpanzee followers are behind every idiotic idea that tweets out of that damaged brain. No Repubtards have said a single word about how much money is being spent daily for the security and travel expenses of the Trump family circus. Mar-A-Lago visits, Trump Tower security, International Trump trips for enhancing his business deals. At this rate the Trump Empire will be spending more money in ONE YEAR than President Obama spent in 8 years. Republicunts are always in-your-face about Democrats spending but whenever one of their own is breaking the bank they are as silent as their pledge of allegiance to the United States. Republican right wing conservatives are commie Putin azz-kissing traitors who don't deserve to live in a Democracy!

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Posted by Beneal Good on 04/13/2017 at 9:57 AM

Re: “Editor's Note

Yo Mari, I sure hope they specifically asked you to refer to them as "s/he" because that's kindof a slur in trans circles...

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Posted by If you don't know, be respectful and use "they". on 04/13/2017 at 9:48 AM

Re: “In 13 Years, Every Private School and Home-Schooled Student Could Have a Voucher

As for citations on the "benefits for public schools" of voucher policy, vouchers are policy lifeboats. Lifeboats aren't meant to benefit the sinking ship. They're meant to get people off of it. Yes, the Republican party is responsible, in part, for the state of public school systems in red states. But the Democratic party does not help matters when they engage in reality denial about the fact that, in terms of its ability to educate students effectively in a humane environment, the public system, or, more accurately, portions of it, is indeed sinking. And they don't help matters with a working class constituency that should form part of their natural base when they blame the victims, i.e. the people using the lifeboats.

In a context where the cost of college tuition is so high, every education $$$ supplement available will be needed by families that don't form the top bracket of earners. How's the Democratic party doing with keeping the cost of tuition in Arizona's public universities down? Can't say I've heard much "messaging" on that topic in recent days, at the same time that the media is reporting that the U of A successfully completed its first billion dollar capital campaign a few years ahead of schedule.

In recent days, there's been plenty of denigration and mockery of people using the damage-control policy lifeboats the Republican Party has offered, which the Democrats call "welfare for the wealthy." Perhaps the Democratic Party should postpone their denigration of the working families trying to patch together a way to educate their children in this sad state until they have successfully offered an alternate way for these people to get to their destination. And part of that would include being honest about the fact that districts like TUSD need not just increased funding, but REFORM. The Democratic Party in Southern Arizona has had a remarkably hard time facing that reality.

Sorry to disappoint, but denying that there's no real need for these people to get off the sinking ship doesn't cut it any more. A lot of people see through TUSD's lipstick-on-a-pig expensive PR campaigns to mask the ugly reality of what conditions ACTUALLY are in the district's schools.

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Posted by Suporting Public Ed Means Supporting Local Reform on 04/13/2017 at 9:37 AM

Re: “In 13 Years, Every Private School and Home-Schooled Student Could Have a Voucher

Ever heard of Scott Walker?

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Posted by Look into public ed in Wisconsin, BPH. on 04/13/2017 at 9:09 AM

Re: “Rep. Grijalva Sues Trump Administration Over Border Wall

While the lawsuit may be good for Congressman Raul Grijalva to maintain his political base and it helps raise awareness for the Center for Biological Diversity, the current administration in Washington has clearly shown that the environment and the federal agencies and applicable laws are mere speed bumps in the way of corporate greed and exploitation.

On the plus side, history has shown again and again that trying to curb the forces of nature are about as successful as the presidents comb-over, but that won't stop spending a whole lot of time and taxpayer money to keep a campaign promise that is about as substantial as a coyote fart in a dust devil.

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Posted by sgsmith on 04/13/2017 at 8:48 AM

Re: “Rep. Grijalva Sues Trump Administration Over Border Wall

Just another left wing smokescreen using a false issue to attack Trump and promote illegal immigration at all cost. Leftists are doing same with ther above face on Putin and Russia.

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Posted by Frank Stagg on 04/13/2017 at 8:40 AM

Re: “The Skinny

Three things I already knew, but the Tucson Weekly confirms over and over again:

First, Governor Ducey and his gang in Phoenix are lying, conniving elitist who will continue to steal from the land and the people by any means necessary to ensure their own positions and to guarantee that future generations are denied an education, a political voice and the natural resources that belong to all the people.

Second, elections in Arizona have been fixed so long that having them only demonstrates how long this has been going on. All you have to do is figure out the way the powers to be want it to go and surprise! The election will go that way, but it will always be by a "close" margin as a concession to EVERYONE that opposed it.

Lastly, feeding the trolls only results in more trolling. My grandfather used to say, "Never wrestle with a pig -- you both get dirty and the pig likes it."

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Posted by sgsmith on 04/13/2017 at 8:26 AM

Re: “In 13 Years, Every Private School and Home-Schooled Student Could Have a Voucher

New To Az, I have never seen Wisconsin's name among the states distinguished by spending the least in the country on public education, so I would not think their experience would be comparable with ours. Also, I would be interested in citations about the benefits for the public schools there--citations by organizations that have to do with education, not budgets. Thanks.

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Posted by Betts Putnam-Hidalgo on 04/13/2017 at 8:22 AM

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