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Comment Archives: stories: News & Opinion: Medical MJ

Re: “Up In Smoke

I think Nick Meyers is an excellent writer. His points are constructed well and his use of sarcasm is entertaining and not over the top. His articles present good arguments in favor of medical marijuana. Great job, son....

How about an article on taxed pot vs. the black market. My understanding is that here in WA there is still a thriving black market for pot because it is less expensive than the state government sanctioned product. How about researching that and addressing w corvi's response above?

And, from my perspective, I voted for legalizing marijuana for recreational use in Washington. My thought was if someone wants to get high in the privacy of their own home, go ahead. The problem is people get high where they want. The Seattle City Attorney is a regular pot user and publicly announced he would not prosecute any police citation for public marijuana use. So, nearly every where you go in downtown Seattle - there's a familiar odor in the air - walk out of a restaurant - pot; walk out of a Seahawk game - pot; leave a concert at Key Arena - pot. At least here in Seattle, it's gone a bit too far.

Posted by Allan Meyers on 01/03/2017 at 10:43 PM

Re: “Up In Smoke

And with prop 205 more prisoners to the cell more money to pay them. More courts to convict, more peace officers to protect, more prisons to build more counseling to indoctrinate.

I doubt Meth Heroin, pill dealers bottom line will be affected if they can't get pot they will get booze they just want to be high.

Over 40 years in construction and management of hundreds of men at a time I have seen the mode. Drug screens, safety people insurance mandates, visits and calls from parole probation and drug counselors, requests to monitor and take responsibility. yada yada yada.

To ponder for a minute put down the blunt the Discount tire guy. Discount Tire has 900 locations for instance they average 4 cars an hour with just 2 tires and open 10 hours thats 80 tires per location @ 900 locations thats 72,000 tires a day or 432,000 a week.

So just think out of a possible half a million tires installed weekly. just how hard it would bring to suit against Discount saying the tires were installed improperly because the by a stoned guy ? As of now a Medical Marijuana Card holder is precluded from taking a job such as installing tires. This is a protection he would like to keep a million spent and tax deductable is cheap.

We have a legislature problem and a halftime penance paid to representative only allow the rich to sit at the table. Others groble to work from crappy appointments.

There is really only one side for marijuana to come down on if legalized. Continuation of the stigma of being a druggy all drugs are associated heroin, meth, marijuana, that spice stuff. That would be the result of 205

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 12/29/2016 at 11:19 AM

Re: “Up In Smoke

Actually, the biggest losers would be the drug dealers on the streets. Their revenue would dry up in a heartbeat.

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Posted by W Corvi on 12/29/2016 at 8:53 AM

Re: “Up In Smoke

You have to wonder how much money Corrections Corp of America (CCA) contributes to his campaign, as they are the biggest losers if marijuana is legalized.

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Posted by lc69hunter on 12/29/2016 at 8:37 AM

Re: “Up In Smoke

Thanks Nick; Informative story good representation of part of the motivation of Bill Montgomery. His voter base is Sun City and Kathy Inman ( Mom Force Arizona) delivers votes.

This atrocity of proposed initiative called prop 205 was a back door to revamp all the constitution's protections citizens now have.

Both Montgomery and JP Holyoak want to, and need to dismantle the Medical Marijuana in order to increase selling their message.

Which is the same message just repackaged. Both are selling they can tackle illegal activity, children access, regulated control. In order to do this they both need the elimination of Medical Marijuana.

With the elimination of medical marijuana we need more laws, more police, and funding for them, streamlined court through administrative law throwing out protections now.

Either way Prop 205 would have delivered to both of them their wants and revenue vehicle.

Medical Marijuana and recreational are not the same. There will never be peace if keep going down this road.

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 12/29/2016 at 7:57 AM

Re: “Puff Daddies

Anne, I suggest you see a doctor it might help it might get some blood work and review cant hurt. Professional help on selecting strains too. And the truth of it is the increase in taxes will offset the cost of the license in 3 months for the average user.

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 12/27/2016 at 1:28 PM

Re: “Puff Daddies

@Carpet Baggers @Ic69hunter
Not just medical marijuana programs - legal recreational also. I'm 57 and never tried marijuana until I was 35 and then didn't like smoking. Now that it is legal for recreational use (Oregon) I use it for pain, to sleep and as an alternative to alcohol which can have other health effects.

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Posted by Anne0859 on 12/26/2016 at 12:17 PM

Re: “High Hopes for High Times

Could Be Better, I totally agree we as a whole need to confront engage in this issue.

To attack people cultures beliefs fear and hate quickly eliminates the need or the cause.

Regardless of who's in office it will take so much more to defend those . The highest thing in DC is the Washington tower it always has been or we would not be chatting about this now. The single power wielder in washington only rides the horse's name ? The direction feed saddle barn tack are called congress. If they had the ability on where they rode, it would be different today. Why so many think the name of the horse is the rider's truly bewildering.

There is only one focus here the path that the horse can travel it has to be a open field to graze take the fence down called schedule 1

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 12/26/2016 at 9:45 AM

Re: “Edibles on the Eastside

Wasn't Arizona Organix in Glendale the first dispensary to open anywhere in Arizona?

Posted by pika on 12/24/2016 at 1:37 PM

Re: “Puff Daddies

Ok then it seems that the medical Marijuana program is working ?

Decreases in teenage use, controlled access monitored consumption annual doctor visits to discuss use. Where's the downside on a state level in the existing program ?

It would be ok by me to reduce the amount the state charges for a license. Or allowing/subsidizing some of the monies collected to go to doctors that follow more comprehensive program and collect non personal data for public study.

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 12/22/2016 at 9:54 AM

Re: “Puff Daddies

re: the 55 and older crowd. Remember when they grew up. The 60's and 70's. It was the drug of choice.

Now with aches and pains which come with that age, they can get a medical chit to legally consume it.

The only fly in that ointment is the Ninth Circuit decision on Aug 31 (wrongly decided, I might add) that said if you consume marijuana, legally or otherwise, you have no Second Amendment rights.

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Posted by lc69hunter on 12/22/2016 at 6:02 AM

Re: “Boom and Bust

I am perplexed, some are of the opinion that a heavily taxed Marijuana distribution like prop 205 would compete with addiction of opioids?

So the Recreational would have take place of the prescribed ? I would then guess the enhanced concentrated would then compete with the heroin? Sold like alcohol taxed like the King's Gold. Competes and will eliminate the cartels will reduce illegal drug economy . Reduce drug crime police & courts & prisons.

Seems to me we are looking at 2 wolves trying to eat the same piece of meat. The suppliers of fresh meat are seeing limits on market. Most doctors are now paid by bookings.

The real meaning of the Medical Marijuana was to get help and educate. We see now all kinds of Medical professionals who want to get billable bookings. The Idea of going to the doctor and asking what dont you want or do want ? Alcohol, Opioids, psychotropic, nicotine, cannabis.

We dont need to lose sight of what Medical Marijuana was meant to be for and why the people voted for it. Medical Marijuana was not meant to be the vehicle of tax revenue. New administrative enforcement, courts, all the things a legislature can't or won't handle.

Where is the logic to any of this paying to exist solinet green.

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 12/15/2016 at 7:45 AM

Re: “What Are They Smoking?

I would only add to Concerned Mom that she is joining Chris Christie in accusing cannabis consumers of lack of self control - this coming from a man who cannot control his weight even after a gastric bypass surgery. The hypocrisy, it burns!

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Posted by Jeffrey Patten on 12/12/2016 at 7:08 PM

Re: “What Are They Smoking?

Wow Concerned Mom, I figure that your kids are stressing you out. Disappear for a few minutes in the comfort of your bedroom and light one up. Hopefully your attitude will improve.

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Posted by AZ/DC! on 12/10/2016 at 5:37 PM

Re: “What Are They Smoking?

It is interesting how the loosening of requirements intended to fast-track treatments for AIDS allowed hundreds, if not thousands, of pharmaceutical company-created drugs to flood the market making billions, yet medical marijuana is still struggling for a place.

It only goes to prove my earlier point -- if they can't make a very lot of money from it, the use of marijuana for medical and recreational purposes will continue to be an uphill battle.

It also doesn't help that prosecuting marijuana "offenses" and incarcerating the offenders remains a serious revenue stream for the private prison systems in the United States, a trend that is not likely to change in the next four years.

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Posted by sgsmith on 12/10/2016 at 3:27 PM

Re: “What Are They Smoking?

As indicated in the article, the "movement" also has much to do with decades of past injustices and millions of prosecutions with confiscation of property and ruining of lives without conscience. It used to be much worse than it is now, but mean spirited intolerance, Concerned Mom, is still a bigger problem in this country than people who prefer marijuana.

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Posted by Could Be Better on 12/10/2016 at 6:35 AM

Re: “High Hopes for High Times

I know he is not in office yet, but when that nominee for top-cop Attorney General said that "good people do not smoke marijuana" he clearly showed his cards and, like Trump, will never admit he's wrong. Richard Nixon had a "no knock" law with police crashing through doors to catch "bad" people and soon we may have them standing in the living rooms of America again.

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Posted by Could Be Better on 12/08/2016 at 6:47 AM

Re: “What Are They Smoking?

The movement itself is based on a total lack of self control. The country has a serious problem with it.

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Posted by Concerned Mom on 12/08/2016 at 6:33 AM

Re: “What Are They Smoking?

The reason the legalization of marijuana is gaining any momentum at all in certain circles has less to do with the change in public attitudes than the potential for taxes and monetization by government entities and powerful corporations.

If you need any examples of how terribly wrong this can go look no further than efforts to tax and monetize the Internet and social media. As soon as the powers to be figure out how to make the "Interweb" pay out, you can forget about streaming anything other than infomercials.

As for legalizing marijuana, same thing, once they figure out how to tax it and the corporations are growing it look for "Big Fats" and "Quarter-bags with seeds" with more carcinogens and added ingredients than fast foods.

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Posted by sgsmith on 12/08/2016 at 5:10 AM

Re: “High Hopes for High Times

In a perfect world, it would just be about the health and quality of life for the patient; Unfortunately, in the world we live in, unless there is money to be made -- and I mean lots and lots of money -- the health and quality of life for patients will not even move the needle on the average career politicians G.A.S. (give a sh@t) gauge.

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Posted by sgsmith on 12/01/2016 at 2:58 PM

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