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Re: “The 'Freedom Center's' High School Course Is On Shaky Ground at TUSD

In addition to "Dark Money" by Jane Mayer (which is a must read in my opinion), anyone who is interested in the motivations of the Koch Brothers and their followers should check out the website: unkochmycampus.org

It's a much bigger reach into our society than one might think at first glance.

1 like, 1 dislike
Posted by Jana Happel on 11/21/2017 at 7:26 AM

Re: “The 'Freedom Center's' High School Course Is On Shaky Ground at TUSD

Employing stealth to achieve a public policy outcome is a red flag. Like the Kochs, the Freedom Center has worked to cloak their policy objectives. Putting everything on the table for public scrutiny would jeopardize their likelihood of success.

5 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by Tom Rhodes on 11/21/2017 at 6:50 AM

Re: “Calling All Turkeys! Salvation Army in Desperate Need of Thanksgiving Staple

Maybe moving from St Demetrios wasn't a good idea. The community supported the event at that venue for decades.

Posted by UofAzWildkitty on 11/21/2017 at 4:08 AM

Re: “Trusting Entrepreneurs to Improve Education: A Cautionary Tale

Nobody talks about the scattering, divisive effect of giving every kid a machine and an IEP. Everyone learns what they want. Finally there's no common inheritance, no common knowledge that every American should know. I think this is the secret goal. Subversion is its name.

Bruce Deitrick Price

Posted by educatt on 11/20/2017 at 6:39 PM

Re: “Steve Bannon Beats the Drum Against Undocumented Immigrants in Tucson Appearance

I thought the BP agents were shot and killed. Turns out they were beaten to death with boulders. Let's catch the killers.

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Posted by Jonathon K on 11/20/2017 at 4:02 PM

Re: “Steve Bannon Beats the Drum Against Undocumented Immigrants in Tucson Appearance

How ironic people are defending illegals on the day after an illegal bashed one of our Border Patrol agents head in with a rock. I call that time to end illegal immigration in the US as we know it.

7 likes, 11 dislikes
Posted by AZPAUL on 11/20/2017 at 12:07 PM

Re: “Steve Bannon Beats the Drum Against Undocumented Immigrants in Tucson Appearance

Kelli Ward and Steve Bannon. You can't make up this level of lunacy, using each other. They dont care one iota about the people of Arizona, the people are just suckers, and pawns for their ambitions, and Michael Ward's ambitions.

10 likes, 6 dislikes
Posted by Frances Perkins on 11/20/2017 at 11:16 AM

Re: “Steve Bannon Beats the Drum Against Undocumented Immigrants in Tucson Appearance

ON APRIL 10, 2006, MORE THAN 10 YEARS AGO...

15 brave community activists had the GUTS to enter Armory Park to confront 15,000 rabid "pro-raza" open border zealots, declare their support for "the wall" and American sovereignty, and burn 2 Mexican flags in spite of wide-spread republican, democrat and community support for decades old "Open Border Policy" to wit:

"To aid and abet, entice and invite and to otherwise encourage the illegal entry of impoverished Mexican citizens for economic and political exploitation."

And yet these 15 have received no support or acknowledgement from the community for having the courage to stand up in 2006 when it really mattered!!

Trump didn't define and create the issue which elected him, We few here in Arizona did!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUSrLBt521…

6 likes, 11 dislikes
Posted by KitWarden on 11/20/2017 at 10:49 AM

Re: “Steve Bannon Beats the Drum Against Undocumented Immigrants in Tucson Appearance

"The hotel and fast food industries have ridden the gravy train for years with this strategy and made a *lot* of money."

One of the leaders in this practice is Mr. Trump himself. He brings in all manner of immigrants, bypassing the proper rules of the system. The reason being that he can pay them low wages, giving himself bigger profits. How convenient.

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Posted by Robyn Renwick Zelickson on 11/20/2017 at 9:56 AM

Re: “Steve Bannon Beats the Drum Against Undocumented Immigrants in Tucson Appearance

I am struck by the irony of Breitbart News having the courage to pursue the federal government gun running program, and then when the family of a BP agent killed in the line of duty, awards said newsman, the leftist apologists attack him personally. And the cherry on top is that it all happens on the day when two more BP agents are shot (1 dead) by illegal entrants at the border.

It would be more accurate to charge you as accomplices to murder. I just used a little bit of your own logic.

6 likes, 17 dislikes
Posted by Wayne Olson on 11/20/2017 at 9:55 AM

Re: “Steve Bannon Beats the Drum Against Undocumented Immigrants in Tucson Appearance

The Brian Terry Foundation smeared themselves, and Brian Terry's name, when they invited this racist P.O.S. to our community.

But in some ways, it makes perfect sense. Multiple independent investigations have shown the U.S. Border Patrol to be a profoundly racist institution. It pervades the agency, from the policy decisions at the highest level right down to the individual actions of far too many of the agents on the ground. The ingrained culture is to demonize Mexican immigrants and treat them as the enemy.

From the question of which immigrant demographic to persecute right down to the brown teenager that gets shot in the back as he's running away, this agency brings shame upon the U.S. and threatens our core constitutional values of liberty for all. Considering that, Steve Bannon--a.k.a. Joseph Goebbels--is the perfect spokesperson.

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Posted by skinnyman on 11/20/2017 at 9:36 AM

Re: “Steve Bannon Beats the Drum Against Undocumented Immigrants in Tucson Appearance

Glad Trump was elected because he will enforce immigration laws! Enforcing U.S Immigration laws and deporting Illegal Aliens is not racist ! The U.S lets in 1 Million immigrants a year! Instead of Mexicans and the Open border group calling people racist because they come to he U.S Illegally steal SSN and IDs (both Felonies) cost the U.S $135 Billion a year , overcrowd schools and hospital they should try respecting U.S laws and stop breaking into they U.S 73% of Illegal Alien households use 1 or more forms of welfare

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Posted by ub2bad2 on 11/20/2017 at 8:28 AM

Re: “Steve Bannon Beats the Drum Against Undocumented Immigrants in Tucson Appearance

Trying to dress up white nationalism by calling it a jobs program is the work of Bannon.... and people like him need to be called out for it. Bannon doesn't care about the families of dead BP agents, except that he can use that issue to further his case for discriminating against Mexicans. The Terry Foundation should acknowledge that...

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Posted by Cascabel on 11/20/2017 at 7:34 AM

Re: “Steve Bannon Beats the Drum Against Undocumented Immigrants in Tucson Appearance

High immigration rates destroy the working class by keeping wages at rock bottom and stressing infrastructure. Voters are waking up to this fact and they don't want welfare, they want jobs.

Low wage industries have managed to keep people blind to this fact by a tried and true tactic of massive campaign contributions along with dividing the electorate. They have managed to paint anyone who suggests lowering immigration (legal or illegal) as a Nazi and somehow un-American. This has kept workers on the left from waking up to their own interests. Republican politicians can mostly be bought just with the campaign contributions. They throw their base a meaningless bone on illegal immigration enforcement once in a while while keeping immigration rates high. Trump exposed their duplicity and won the presidency by doing it.

The hotel and fast food industries have ridden the gravy train for years with this strategy and made a *lot* of money. We're on our way to half a billion people in our lifetimes unless Congress actually passes meaningful legislation slowing the flow.

10 likes, 18 dislikes
Posted by bslap on 11/20/2017 at 6:59 AM

Re: “Steve Bannon Beats the Drum Against Undocumented Immigrants in Tucson Appearance

"It's unfortunate when any group has to start putting labels on people -- 'white nationalist', 'Black Lives Matter'. We all matter", Ralph Terry said.

Yes, except they are not shooting white nationalists dead in the street for little more than being a white nationalist -- although Steve Bannon and his ilk would like nothing more than to pass this false equivalency off as the truth.

Trying to compare the deaths of black people at the hands of various law enforcement agencies to the "plight" of white nationalist is like comparing the stress of Nazi concentration camp guards to the prisoners of those very same camps.

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Posted by sgsmith on 11/20/2017 at 3:40 AM

Re: “Facebook-Free Friday

You originally said, Buffett "hasn't paid a penny on his $81 billion dollar fortune." Now you say he paid $1.85 million in 2015 and extrapolated his entire tax payments over 40 years, though how you can do that is a mystery to me, and you called the $74 million you say he paid "a rounding error." To recap, first he paid nothing, then he paid $74 million, which is the same as nothing. I have to say, your ability to admit you were wrong and say you weren't wrong astounds me.

David,,

You are joing right? Really, really joking? You find out that Warren Buffett hasn't paid one penny on the dollar, not even 1/10 of a penny on the dollar of his fortune while every year advocating for more taxes and small businesses that compete with his businesses and you defend him?

Pathetic.

Not one penny on the dollar. That's what he has paid. Can you do math? Can you multiply by 40 working years. Can you divide by 81,000,000,000, as in $81 billion dollars?

He is in the zero tax bracket advocating for more taxes on people paying:

28% federal + 12.4% Social Security + 2.9% Medicare + 5% state + 5% sales + 10% regulatory load

Pretty pathetic David.

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 11/18/2017 at 4:11 PM

Re: “Facebook-Free Friday

Amen, AZ/DC. Amen.

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Posted by CW13 on 11/18/2017 at 10:56 AM

Re: “Facebook-Free Friday

Dave, in your first paragraph your description of what you like about Facebook fits how I see and use Facebook. Then you go into a rant about Zuckerberg and attack his character because Facebook is in business to make a buck. That's capitalism and entrepreneurism, from which we, at least most of us humans, have greatly benefited. Facebook is less than perfect, but what would be perfect for you, would not necessarily be perfect for me. To totally personalize Facebook would require a very complex algorithm, probably not worth the cost to develop. I don't have problem with Facebook as it is, particularly since it's free and optional, i.e., not required viewing. And if one anticipates propaganda and misinformation, and deals with it accordingly, what's problem.

Regarding "Biggest waste of time on this planet is Facebook", no, vacuuming the carpet is the biggest waste of time; it just gets dirty again.

2 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by DennyG on 11/18/2017 at 9:28 AM

Re: “McSally Silent on Roy Moore Accusations

Typical over-reaction by pro-abortion responders. Why don't you care more for your fellow women, why do you keep resisting any attempt to make it rare?

I am not against birth control, except when you want to use abortion, or the morning after pill, which in the case of abortion actually kills a human being oh, the majority of which are women, and then the case of the morning after pill which doesn't always prevent pregnancy but May kill an implanted unique human being in its mother's uterus.

I am not trying to control women. I'm trying to get them to reconsider their point of view on abortion and to control themselves. you claim to want abortion to be safe and rare? what are you actually doing to make that happen? most abortions are not necessary. They are convenience or imposed by force by parents or peer pressure. why won't you acknowledge that if you care about women? why won't you actively work to cut back on the number of abortions? if you have a right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness, why don't the children you conceive have the same rights?

the founder of Planned Parenthood was a racist according to her own words. She believed that white races were Superior to others. the number one killer of black people is abortion. how many people have been killed in the womb who might have lived 2 come up with answers to our real problems? how many aborted children would have had a life such as the one you are currently enjoying?

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Posted by Stephen M. Zumbo on 11/18/2017 at 9:09 AM

Re: “McSally Silent on Roy Moore Accusations

Actually, the Roe v Wade Supreme Court decision explicitly says that if it could be proven that life begins at conception oh, then the right to abortion on demand would collapse, because the child would have a right to life. We knew in 1973 and we know now when life begins according to biology: life clearly begins at conception with a new set of chromosomes donated by both the father and mother. why do you choose not to believe this and to accept the implications of it. Currently abortion on demand shows that abortion is not rare, and the recent deaths at abortion clinics prove it is not safe for the mother. it is by definition not safe for The Unborn Child.

people are not animals. If you cannot care for a child or don't watch children then you shouldn't have unprotected sex. many women who have been raped have chosen to keep their children. there are men and women who are willing to adopt children who are unwanted by their biological parents. there is no reason for most abortions other than selfishness. If you have a health issue you can still get an abortion even if we don't have abortion on demand in all cases. the reasons that are held up to say that abortion is necessary on demand without exception are no longer valid if they ever were.

this is not just a religious issue, it should be a moral View and a legal for anyone who claims to care about women or men. Justice they were wrong in the Civil War when saying that black people weren't people they were property, the Supreme Court is wrong in its 1973 Roe versus decision. don't need Planned Parenthood unlimited abortion on demand for women to have Healthcare provided to them. There are plenty of others agencies that can use that money to expand their services to women without funding abortion. why are you not in favor of that?

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Posted by Stephen M. Zumbo on 11/18/2017 at 8:50 AM

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