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Re: “If You Think the TUSD Board Election Was a Knock-down, Drag-out Fight, Take a Look at L.A.

In order to control every generation of children before they become adults you must start when they are in the formative years and indoctrinate them into your scheme. Just as Hitler took control of the children of Germany and trained them to be good Aryans the pro-charter school advocates realize the power they will have over millions of American youth if they can just win enough seats on the education boards of this country's schools. Once that goal is achieved all the dominoes will easily fall into place and once again Public Money will go towards Private Profits! Most Americans are asleep at the wheel and are not mentally equipped to comprehend what the hell is going on. This country is basically screwed and you can thank the Republican conservative political machine which has been working overtime since the 1980's to convert our Democracy to an Oligarchy.

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Posted by Beneal Good on 05/16/2017 at 10:02 AM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

Let it go Abbie. They just arrested one of the opposition for making death threats against Congressperson McSally. I think they call it social justice.

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Posted by John T on 05/16/2017 at 9:06 AM

Re: “If You Think the TUSD Board Election Was a Knock-down, Drag-out Fight, Take a Look at L.A.

Keep it up and Trump will win this too. People have moved from running on emotion to running on hate, and Americans are tired of it. Very tired.

15-20M dollars to make school policy? It must be an awful profitable business.

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Posted by Harold Thompson on 05/15/2017 at 3:53 PM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

WASHINGTON, DCThe House of Representatives today unanimously passed U.S. Representative Martha McSallys legislation to prevent Members of Congress and their staff from being exempt from the State waiver provisions of the American Health Care Act (AHCA) as amended.

Any law we pass that applies to our constituents must apply equally to Members of Congress as well. Anything short of that is hypocrisy. Congress must abide by the laws it passes and should be treated no differently than other hardworking Americans, said Rep. McSally. My measure eliminates double standards by preventing Members of Congress from exempting themselves from American Health Care Act.

Due to Senate procedural rules within the Budget Reconciliation process, the MacArthur Amendment to the American Health Care Act would exempt Members of Congress and their staff. Rep. McSallys legislation, H.R. 2192, is a standalone two-page bill that would repeal this exemption for Members of Congress should the American Health Care Act become law. The measure passed the House by a vote of 429-0.

If you skip the other two links, at least read this. It might help you:

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Posted by Abbie G on 05/15/2017 at 2:16 PM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

FYI Abbie G, to highlight how you are being played by McSally. Your last sentence displays a profound ignorance of what her amendment actually meant, which is ironic concerning your criticism of other peoples understanding of her actions.

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Posted by Hego on 05/15/2017 at 12:50 PM

Re: “Got a Bachelor's Degree? There May Be a Public School Teaching Job Waiting For You.

You fail to distinguish between two distinct points of view:
1) Safier-style political-machine-feeding "all our problems will be solved if we just increase funding to public district schools and cut off funding to and support of alternative schools"
2) the repeatedly expressed opinion that funding should only be increased -- and charters and vouchers permitted -- with improved oversight mechanisms that ensure increased funding and increased choice will be managed in ways that benefit students and protect constituents from abuse

The results of parent satisfaction surveys, as has been pointed out before, are interesting, but most parents are not professional educators and their satisfaction with a school in no way guarantees that quality education is necessarily being delivered there.

What we have in Arizona education is not a lamentation orchestra -- what we have is a peculiarly toxic version of the Wild West on both sides of the political aisle. It is a bipartisan culture of self-serving irresponsibility that, on the one side, lazily and irrationally assumes the "invisible hand" will effectively accomplish what only careful, tedious, systematic quality-control oversight can actually accomplish, and, on the other side, sloppily begs more funding while resisting and disparaging any concern with how that funding is actually applied. Neither approach works to provide high quality publicly funded education.

The situation was correctly diagnosed above. The one effective remedy left to those who want to raise and educate children responsibly: leave the state of Arizona.

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Posted by No white hats, just bipartisan irresponsibility. on 05/13/2017 at 9:28 AM

Re: “Miss Teen USA Eliminating Their Swimsuit Competition is Only a Small Step in the Right Direction

Buy some advertising and quit trying to steal it.

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Posted by Debbie T on 05/12/2017 at 10:49 AM

Re: “Laughing Stock: Mirth for Mom

Apologies for the misunderstanding. Thanks for calling it to my attention, Maryann. That's a great event, and you deserve every bit of the credit!

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Posted by Linda Ray 64 on 05/11/2017 at 8:47 PM

Re: “Laughing Stock: Mirth for Mom

I love MMC but with all due respect, Nicolette has PERFORMED in the Tucson Fringe Festival's Beer With The Bard. Beer With The Bard is produced and run by Fringe Exec Director, Maryann Green.

Posted by Maryann Green on 05/11/2017 at 8:18 PM

Re: “Got a Bachelor's Degree? There May Be a Public School Teaching Job Waiting For You.

Arizona Going to Hell in a Handbasket

You say that we can see from direct experience that Arizona is going to hell in a handbasket. Yet, we have school district that have rigorous systems for measuring parent's direct experience.

Those parents don't agree with you. It is quite likely that our ratings of school quality by parents are the highest in the nation. We have school districts triple the national average.

You say that Pima County MVD is not doing well. What, specifically was your experience there? How long did you wait? Were you able to complete your transaction in one visit? If not, did you get the info you needed to complete your transaction?

What we have is a lamentation orchestra. Instead of focusing on the true mission, developing the next generation, we have many people who work to create a culture of lamentation built around a false mission of maximizing pensions.

What is our mission? To develop our children or to maximize the pensions of exiting adults? All the commentary on this blog suggests that the true mission of the district system is to maximize pensions.

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Posted by on 05/11/2017 at 12:13 PM

Re: “Ducey's 'Education Budget,' Part 2: 17 Percent of Schools Will Get A Big Bonus (Hint: It Helps to Have Lots of Rich Kids)

This should come as no surprise to anyone. How else are they to maintain the American plutocracy?

"America believes in education: the average professor earns more money in a year than a professional athlete earns in a whole week." -- Evan Esar (1899-1995)

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Posted by sgsmith on 05/10/2017 at 6:52 PM

Re: “Do Arizona Republicans Want to (a) Dismantle; (b) Damage; (c) Degrade; and/or (d) Devalue Public Education?

"Parents cannot afford to drive their kids to better schools....."

I seem to remember something about busing kids to achieve racial integration. Then we dreamed up magnet schools based on proportionate racial improvements. But neither government nor public schools were effective at achieving a satisfactory outcome.

The only thing left to do is cut funding to the upper income area schools and fund the lower income schools at 150% of normal expenses. Then we can see how effective money can be in leveling the playing field. Would it increase success rates at the bottom or decrease success rates at the top?

I guess it begs the question, "can we only accomplish social engineering rather than providing a quality learning experience?" And then, "should public schools try to accomplish both?"

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Posted by Public Ed Is So Broken on 05/10/2017 at 11:27 AM

Re: “Got a Bachelor's Degree? There May Be a Public School Teaching Job Waiting For You.

The MVD I use in Pima County is not working well. It seems to have some of the same problems TUSD does with inefficiency and inadequately instructed staff.

Part of good government has to do with OVERSIGHT and STANDARDS. You don't get good government by slashing budgets and deregulating. A free-for-all, unsurprisingly, does not protect constituents from abuse. State level leaders cut funds, peel back regulation, and don't even bother to enforce the constituent-protective laws that remain on the books.

Arizona is going to hell in a hand basket and all we get from those responsible is self-congratulation and "data" that is supposed to prove that we are living in the best of all possible worlds, when in fact we can see from our direct experience that many functions government should perform are disappearing or being degraded through mismanagement to the point where they might as well have disappeared.

Will the next election solve our problems? Seems unlikely when the choice is between more-of-same Phoenix Republicans and those affiliated with our Southern Arizona Democratic dysfunctions.


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Posted by Arizona Going to Hell in a Handbasket on 05/10/2017 at 9:57 AM

Re: “Do Arizona Republicans Want to (a) Dismantle; (b) Damage; (c) Degrade; and/or (d) Devalue Public Education?

I have to laugh when I see school districts that have had to go to home owners for funding, that are held up as a "See, they're doing well without high state funding". That is smoke and mirrors by supporters of Ducey's efforts to kill public education. Vail is doing well because over and over, the voters in the district have voted to approve school bonds and school overrides. The district is making up for the lack of state funding on the backs of homeowners who value a quality public education. Kids who live in poor school districts don't have the luxury to do this. Before you give me the school choice bullshit, those parents cannot afford to drive their kid to the better school district on the other side of town so they're left in the lousy districts.

We are last in the nation in education funding. We are last in the nation in teacher's salaries and we are ranked 45th in the nation in education performance. Those stats can all easily be found on the web. No smoke and mirrors, just the reality of a state government that doesn't give a damn about the education of our children unless their parents are filthy rich.

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Posted by Commshooter on 05/10/2017 at 1:12 AM

Re: “McSally Declines To Take a Stand on Zombie Trumpcare

McSally is exactly who she was in the military. She never cared about the personnel outside of her inner circle (pilots). In fact, she pitched a fit in Afghanistan in 2005 when the morale hut computers were upgraded so that the people maintaining their A-10's, could communicate with their families back home. Her pilots had an unauthorized private morale area just for the pilots. Any efforts to provide reliable communications for others was opposed by her. That included her going to the group commander and pitching a fit over the replacement of old, unreliable computer systems. That was a battle she lost. She should have wanted those maintainers morale to be high and have reliable communications back home so they could focus on the job at hand. She didn't give a damn. Fortunately, we did and so did our leadership.

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Posted by Commshooter on 05/10/2017 at 1:01 AM

Re: “Got a Bachelor's Degree? There May Be a Public School Teaching Job Waiting For You.

John, the irony in your comment is that the MVD never worked better than when Phoenix car dealer Ev Mecham was Governor. As soon as the democrats regained power, it fell into total disarray.

And that is so hard for the public to hear.

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Posted by History Repeats Itself on 05/09/2017 at 5:00 PM

Re: “Got a Bachelor's Degree? There May Be a Public School Teaching Job Waiting For You.

Response to R's and D's get it wrong.

I just completely disagree. Two weeks ago, I had to go to MVD to get a new Title to a truck I was selling. While I was in the legislature, I put in untold hours working to get better MVD service. Eventually, we got it down to an average wait time of less than 20 minutes. We put in comprehensive systems to improve service and speed. Not bad, when I first visited MVD offices in 1993, there were people in there with sleeping bags. Average wait time - 3 hours.

I was dreading going for two reasons, I didn't want to witness the degradation I was certain I was going to observe. MVD has suffered 10 consecutive budget cuts.

It was a stunning surprise. The office had put in a new wrinkle. When I came into MVD, there was a "cart girl." She had every form a person could possibly need. She was also able to check as to whether a person had all their paperwork in order.

From the time my hand hit the door to open till the door closed behind me - 16 minutes. The customer focus was palpable. It actually added value to my day everyone was so pleasant.

Who would have dreamed it? MVD - Motor Vehicle Department.

A friend of mine had just come back from New York. You know Nirvana for the liberals who inhabit this blog. She took a disabled friend of hers to MVD in New York. What she described was exactly what I observed in 1992 in Arizona. After waiting 3 hours, she demand special consideration based on the disabled status of her friend and got it. Before leaving, she witnessed one poor soul cursing the employees after having been sent from MVD to Social Security to MVD back to Social Security each time having waited 3 to 5 hours and still not having his issue involved.

Governor Ducey takes pride in working toward excellent service. He actually cares about it, MVD is living proof of it. You just don't need to have expensive government to have effective government, MVD is proof.

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Posted by on 05/09/2017 at 4:41 PM

Re: “Got a Bachelor's Degree? There May Be a Public School Teaching Job Waiting For You.

What is needed is GOOD government: neither too small nor too big, efficient, effectively serving the common good, ensuring high quality service delivery, and protecting citizens from abuse.

Unfortunately, in this state the Rs seem to want NO government, and the Ds seem to want to continue excusing BAD government. We have no broad-based, widely recognized political party or advocacy group focused on exercising the citizenship oversight and public participation skills necessary to keep government institutions honest and responsive.

More's the pity.

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Posted by In AZ, both the Rs and the Ds get it wrong. on 05/09/2017 at 3:03 PM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

Prehaps Abbie G should engage in some critical thinking herself before she accuses people of having kneejerk reactions due to a lack of comphrension about actions of Republican congressmen. I was well aware of the original provision that her link concerns, before I made my comments. Sarah Kliff reported it on 03 May, where MacArthurs office confirmed that his proposals would not apply to members of congress or their staff. Only after she exposed it did MacSally engage in an ass covering exercise by introducing her amendment.

Regardless of the this, the Act is effectively a tax break for rich people, and I suspect that MacSally is going to do very well financially from it herself. She will not be worried over insurance companies making insurance unaffordale to people with pre-existing conditions as she will have plenty of extra income to meet such surcharges.

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Posted by Hego on 05/09/2017 at 2:07 PM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

Just to be clear many of you don't know enough about the actions of Congress to do anything but have kneejerk reactions. Did you see her legislation that passed?

Congress is losing their plan when this passes the Senate.

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Posted by Abbie G on 05/09/2017 at 10:31 AM

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