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Comment Archives: stories: News & Opinion: The Range: The Tucson Weekly's Daily Dispatch

Re: “Catalina Foothills Districts Earns Bragging Rights With Its AzMERIT Scores (Or Maybe Not)

Where's the punchline, David? You know what it is, right? SES / home values and parent education levels in the neighborhoods surrounding those two schools and SES and parent education levels of many if not all of those who open enroll. If TUSD schools were integrated by SES and parent education levels, would these two schools be the stand-outs they are?

So what are you trying to highlight, TUSD's chronic failures to integrate? Its decades-long persistence in maintaining enclave schools where people who live in the right neighborhoods can get services superior to what is available even in the wealthy Catalina Foothills school district, while people who live on the South and West sides of TUSD distinctly do NOT get those test scores -- or the kind of staff and investment available in those schools -- out of TUSD? How about making one of your fabulous graphs showing teacher vacancy rates at Fruchthendler and Sam Hughes vs. south and west side TUSD schools or average years of experience of teaching staff in Fruchthendler and Sam Hughes VS. south and west side schools? Or graphs showing differences in supplementary private investment and tax credit investment in those schools vs. other schools in TUSD?

I really don't understand the point you're trying to make here. Is it that even failing TUSD can do well teaching rich kids whose parents voluntarily invest in their schools, or is it that there are some significant failures of justice in resource allocation in TUSD? Or both?

Do tell.

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Posted by What's the moral of the story here? on 09/28/2017 at 1:26 PM

Re: “Cinema Clips: First They Killed My Father: A Daughter of Cambodia Remembers

It is Amazing!! tear-jerker, slice of life, extraordinary story. 10/10 i would give this movie!

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Posted by ACER on 09/28/2017 at 12:41 PM

Re: “Sports Scandal Rocks UA Basketball Program

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME

Shocked I say.....

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Posted by Jim on 09/28/2017 at 12:14 PM

Re: “Sports Scandal Rocks UA Basketball Program

The Athletic Program at the University of Arizona, as with other Universities in this Country, creates the environment for Corruption that we are currently witnessing. This is Big Business!!... providing millions of dollars for the University and, as well, are Feeder Programs for Professional Sports. The Athletic Programs, as such, must be dismantled and restructured.

The University, Board of Reagents and University Administration, kowtows to Alumni that support the Athletic Programs as they current exist. Why?...the $$$$$ that the "donate"....and...their Identity as a Person is inextricable linked to these Athletic Program providing an opportunity to participate in Home Game "tailgating"...a euphemism for a University sponsored Bacchanalia!

It remain to be seen, if the new UofA President, Dr. Bobby Robins, has the Interest, Courage, and Clout to dismantled and restructured the Athletic Program. The University is First and Foremost an Academic Institution...NOT a Feeder Institution for Professional Sports!!!

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Posted by Francis Saitta on 09/28/2017 at 11:40 AM

Re: “Sports Scandal Rocks UA Basketball Program

Despite rampant misspellings in the media, Book Richardson's name is Emanuel--one m, one n.

If you read the dates and circumstances given in the actual complaint, it's almost certain that he passed $15k to Jahvon Quinerly (not Grimes, and not his mom). In fact, the complaint explains that his mom demanded more money from Book, apparently unaware that her son had already cashed in, or yes, maybe upset that he didn't get more.

Yeah, yeah, Lute is a Hall of Fame coach, all the respect in the world. But under his leadership, Jason Terry was busted taking money from an agent 20 years ago, and later Arizona was busted for what were admittedly relatively minor infractions, but there were penalties assessed and they did have to vacate victories and an NCAA tournament appearance, which punched a hole in Lute's consecutive NCAA tournament appearance streak.

The point is that college basketball has been corrupted by the enormous sums of money swirling around it for decades. It's a multi-billion-dollar industry in which the principal employees get paid nothing, ostensibly--a recipe for corruption if I've ever heard one.

This will turn out much like the steroid scandal in baseball. The open secret will become a painfully clear fact--cheating and corruption are business as usual, especially for the high end schools.

In order for this problem to really be addressed, the mighty must fall. Louisville is obviously down already, but Kentucky, North Carolina, Kansas, and yes, even the saintly and untouchable Puke University, must be exposed and punished. The truth must be revealed in order to find a way out of this mess. MLB did not address steroids until some of the best players of all time had been exposed and punished.

Very sad that Arizona appeared at the tip of this iceberg and a great guy like Book took the first blow. No doubt he did it to compete in a culture of corruption and impunity that was created by the big programs mentioned above (and many others) and tolerated by the NCAA, which had no interest in staining its own brand by prosecuting its own legends. In such a climate, it's not surprising that even good people like Book got sucked into the sewer in their efforts to compete at the highest level and win championships.

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Posted by skinnyman on 09/28/2017 at 11:14 AM

Re: “Sports Scandal Rocks UA Basketball Program

so dd, you're the victim here? U of A basketball has and will continue to be great,
and....broaden your view, if embarrassment is the thing you choose to feel as an alum, meh!

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Posted by laddderflappy on 09/28/2017 at 11:01 AM

Re: “Can High School Athletes Take a Knee?

Wayne, we may thrive despite Trump's complete narcissism and inepititude. If he doesn't destroy the country first, or give the entire thing away to corporate financial greed.

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Posted by Frances Perkins on 09/28/2017 at 9:13 AM

Re: “Sports Scandal Rocks UA Basketball Program

The U of A basketball team used to be great under Lute. Now we alum just get to be embarrassed.

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Posted by DeDe Johnson on 09/28/2017 at 9:07 AM

Re: “Grijalva Arrested Protesting Trump's Immigration Policies

Grijalva is a Pied Piper who, along with other Left Wingers, is responsible for thousands of deaths of those who died illegally coming here, thousands of children who were sold into sexual slavery, hundreds of thousands who were raped, and ten million or more who now fear deportation.

Guess What?

For two decades, Grijalva's support for Pro-Raza Open Border policy, or "aiding and abetting, enticing and inviting or otherwise encouraging the illegal entry of Mexico's poor for economic and political exploitation" has created misery that is un-measurable in its dimensions, billions of dollars of extra profit for fat-cat republican employers looking to drive down the value of labor, and 95% of the case load (EMPLOYMENT) for the judges employed in Arizona's District Courts, for which they are GRATEFUL.

Read the Walrus and the Carpenter. Of course the Mexican poor are the young oysters who leave their oyster beds only to be eaten.

How else did Grijalva get so fat?

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Posted by KitWarden on 09/28/2017 at 8:56 AM

Re: “Sports Scandal Rocks UA Basketball Program

Good points Mike. I know I was a bit snarky earlier, it was just the language of the response that got me, That good old "We became award...." just felt a little too phony to me. A main item no one has gotten much into is Sean Miller. How long is he here for? Hard to believe a micro-manager like him could not have known. Not impossible, but.......So yeah, the whole program is in the deep end.
BTW, hearing Jim Calhoun express total shock about this and acting so sanctimonious was something to hear. When I lived in CT, his program was known as the "Dirty Calhoun".

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Posted by Kenneth Groves on 09/28/2017 at 4:53 AM

Re: “Why Teachers Are Leaving (And New Teachers Aren't Replacing Them)

What is "a preoccupation with reducing hours of instruction"? Would that be, perhaps, a valid concern with increasing the hours available during the school day for planning and grading? Most of the public school teachers I know are mothers with dependent children still at home. They are doing underpaid and undervalued work during the school day so they can do unpaid and unvalued "non-work" raising their own children afternoons, evenings, weekends, and summers. In this context, reducing hours of instruction would be a valid goal that would support increasing the quality of services delivered to students. Probably the relationship between this advocacy goal and quality of services would not be clear to a wet-behind-the-ears, earnest "I'm here to save the world" TFA or Teacher Corps recruit, but it is very clear to those of us who know first-hand the life circumstances of most teachers in the "still-a-ghetto" or "in-Arizona-even-more-a-ghetto-than-it-ever-was" profession of K-12 teaching.

(Very tired of the "from-on-high" commentary of male "educators" who portray themselves as heroes and get congratulated for how self-sacrificing they are when many or most of them do only part of the job their female colleagues do: most if not all of the women are doing the same amount of work during the school day AND the lion's share of the work of child rearing and household management at home. During the years when their children are growing up, most if not all of the female teachers I have known have literally had not a moment to themselves during any of their waking hours, year-in, year-out.)

Recommended reading for those baffled by the above comment: Rachel Cusk's A Life's Work, Chapter 7, entitled "Hell's Kitchen."

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Posted by P.S. on 09/27/2017 at 4:22 PM

Re: “Sports Scandal Rocks UA Basketball Program

After reading a lot of fine print and coverage from a number of sources, I have to warn Wildcat basketball fans that we're probably in for a long dry spell. Maybe not right away, depending on what else the FBI comes up with. But soon, because this isn't just about $20,000 and a player who won't come play for us next year. Nor about having a player who apparently accepted money and is already on our team. To put this thing in proper perspective, consider that Arizona and Miami were in a bidding war, apparently for, Nassir Little--espn's #14 recruit for 2018. Miami needed $150,000 to get him and a coach there had asked for that sum. Word was Little would probably attend Arizona because Adidas wasn't prepared to go more than $125,000. The player Book is alleged to have paid $15,000 is believed to be Quentin Grimes--espn's #13 recruit for 2018. If Grimes services could be bought with $15,000 paid to his mother, isn't it likely he got more from other sources? Something similar to what is said Little needed to commit. Arizona was probably in competition with Louisville for Brian Bowen (espn #14 for 2017) who is believed to have received $100,000 from Louisville (costing Rick Pitino his job). If Bowen was worth that much, how much might DeAndre Ayton (espn #3 this year) have been worth to UA? Not that I'm accusing Ayton of wrongdoing. I'm sure there are players out there who aren't accepting bribes to decide where they'll play. But it's the players who are the source of all the big TV money that allows these astounding salaries for assistant coaches, to say nothing of head coaches. Most of these kids don't come from wealthy homes. They risk their professional careers to injury every time they go on the court. It's hard to blame some of them who take an insurance policy if coaches, agents, shoe companies, and investment counselors are dangling the money in front of them. I hope I'm wrong, but it's hard to imagine that those who oversee Arizona's basketball and other profitable athletic programs aren't aware of college sports' black market. With the FBI hunting investigation continuing, our Wildcats are likely to see some players and personnel leaving the program and recruits with likely NBA futures no longer coming to play in Tucson. Remember the quality of basketball played here under Ben Lindsey? It could get worse--much worse.

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Posted by Mike Hayes on 09/27/2017 at 3:34 PM

Re: “Sports Scandal Rocks UA Basketball Program

"We became aware of the situation.....this morning."
Oh really, what gave it away?
The handcuffs or all those men wearing blue jackets w/ FBI on the back?

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Posted by Kenneth Groves on 09/27/2017 at 3:27 PM

Re: “Sports Scandal Rocks UA Basketball Program

...and... what about the recent Teacher tire slashing incident at TUSD's Santa Rita High School during a Parent/Teacher Conference? The Teacher is African American...and...the incident may be a Hate Crime. The Editor of the Tucson Weekly was given the details of the incident but apparently never reported!!

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Posted by Francis Saitta on 09/27/2017 at 3:12 PM

Re: “Why Teachers Are Leaving (And New Teachers Aren't Replacing Them)

And here's what I think, Rick Spanier: I respect those who comment under their own name and those who comment anonymously when their comments have CONTENT that is worthy of respect. Yours often fall in that category, but in this particular stream and on this particular topic, in my honest (and non-automated) Arizona parent-and-teacher opinion, not so much.

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Posted by Kudos & Few on 09/27/2017 at 12:40 PM

Re: “Can High School Athletes Take a Knee?

Wayne, you speak as if the defeat of the Roman Empire were unfortunate and avoidable, instead of just purely logical--conquer and oppress the vast majority of people you come across for long enough, and yes, eventually they will all rise up against you.

All empires fall, and eventually ours will, too. Participating, or not, in jingoistic rituals will have nothing to do with it; rather, the fall of the U.S. empire will have everything to do with things like, oh, how many innocent kids we slaughter in places like Yemen, and how many of our allies are alienated by our psychotic fuckwit of a president.

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Posted by skinnyman on 09/27/2017 at 11:56 AM

Re: “Why Teachers Are Leaving (And New Teachers Aren't Replacing Them)

@Kudos to long-suffering teachers who stay in the game. @Few take an interest in what matters

Here's what I think: I respect those who comment here under their own names. I wonder about those who use ad hoc addresses of the moment to engage. Assuming you are one-in-the-same, why would I continue a debate with a chimera? Are you real? A bot?

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 09/27/2017 at 11:38 AM

Re: “Why Teachers Are Leaving (And New Teachers Aren't Replacing Them)

Rick Spanier:

You used your particular experience in Philadelphia to support a more general point about the massive exodus of the competent and those with other options from the teaching profession. If you didn't think your particular experience in PA with parents, teachers' union, and teacher educators had broader application, you wouldn't have embedded it in that context. Moreover, what do your words imply about those who are still teaching in public schools? Read them again and ask yourself.

Whatever Safier's teaching role was in the past, in another state, his role now vis a vis our largest local school district has not been one many teachers would understand to be supportive of their efforts. He supported and excused Board members who outsourced subs and damaged their pay and benefits. He took an active role in defending the district's use of 123 and 301 funds, more of which should have gone to teachers.

He can write columns and you can write comments. Good for you. From the perspective of parents who have to get children educated in the underfunded and dangerously chaotic educational "system" in his state and teachers who put up with terrible conditions and pay here, it seems that this would be of more value: supporting the policies, candidates, and funding allocations that can make a constructive difference in students' (and teachers') lives.

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Posted by Few take an interest in what matters. on 09/27/2017 at 11:14 AM

Re: “Why Teachers Are Leaving (And New Teachers Aren't Replacing Them)

@Kudos to long-suffering teachers who stay in the game

You have no idea of my background in public education, especially at the political level of board politics or supportive parent-teacher groups. None.

My comments concern why I decided not to pursue teaching as a vocation and focused on the negative role played by the teachers union in Philadelphia and the level of instruction in Temple's teacher preparation program.

I didn't disparage teachers, I called the teachers union out for what was then a preoccupation with reducing hours of instruction and concerns unrelated to teaching their students. The instructors in the teacher prep courses were, again in my opinion, unqualified hacks. The parents? What do you say when one or two show up for parent teacher conferences and the rest never show or take any role in their kids' educations?

One city, one teachers college, one teachers union. That was the critical mass that turned my away from public school teaching. There are people like Safier, who dedicate their lives to teaching because they love seeing the lights come on in their students' eyes and are willing to put up with the ongoing distractions that impinge on their ability to teach. All praise to them. They are heroes.

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 09/27/2017 at 10:30 AM

Re: “Why Teachers Are Leaving (And New Teachers Aren't Replacing Them)

Dan Kennedy, you are by my count the third professional educator (sounds like that's the position from which you write) who has pointed out the invalidity of the math "teaching" methods Huppenthal repeatedly cites as an "achievement" in these comment streams. Kudos to you. The situation we are in in Arizona is not a good one. People who flaunt Huppenthal-style ignorance of education have not only been given free reign to do this to students whose parents have no way of knowing that this is not real math education, but they are also architects of education policy.

Rick Spanier, is someone dabbling in public education and then getting out when the conditions change so that they are no longer agreeable something that could be described as "service"? As for your own choice, exiting the profession and then disparaging everyone you came into contact with in the field -- parents, teachers, and teacher educators -- what kind of stance is that for a citizen in a democracy where more than 80% of those who vote will graduate (if they graduate at all) from public schools?

In politics and in education, seems like democracy cannot work when too many stand on the sidelines, with no skin in the game, no child in the schools, and from there make condescending commentary about how the beleaguered runners in the race they observe are beneath them. Meanwhile the citizen advocacy tasks that would make a concrete improvement to the educations of the majority of our fellow citizens have too few people willing to move them forward, or even take enough interest to know what they are.

I will never forget canvassing for a school board candidate in an affluent neighborhood of retirees most of whose homes were vacant (not cool enough yet in those early fall months to get on a plane and return to Arizona, no doubt). Of the few that were in residence and answered their doors, most didn't even know what school district they lived in. Skipped that part of their ballots when they voted, no doubt. One of them actually argued with me that he was in a more affluent district than he actually was, not realizing that he'd gotten a deal in his retirement home price precisely BECAUSE, the way the boundaries were drawn, he was NOT in that district. There's a small glimpse of the REALITY of "democratic control" of public ed in Arizona. It bears little resemblance to the beautiful theories of Safier and his fellow Supporters of Public Ed.

Depressing. None of this -- not Safier and his camp, not Huppenthal and his, not Spanier and other disengaged sideline commenters and voters like him -- bodes well for our children or for the collective future of this state.

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Posted by Kudos to long-suffering teachers who stay in the game. on 09/27/2017 at 9:33 AM

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