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Re: “Claytoon of the Day: Yappy Jesus

Christians are not confused. Jesus broke no laws.

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Posted by He Is Risen! on 06/18/2018 at 2:43 PM

Re: “Claytoon of the Day: Free Kool-Aid

And just today a new Gallup Poll shows the highest level of approval for the direction of the country since 2005.

Most readers here must be members of the "glass half empty" group.

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Posted by Making America Great Doesn't Make All Americans Great on 06/18/2018 at 1:07 PM

Re: “Walking for a Cure

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Posted by Alvaro vande on 06/18/2018 at 10:23 AM

Re: “In Which I Find Myself Agreeing With (1) John Huppenthal and (2) The Charles Koch Institute

John, looks like we still pretty much agree. Let me add what I think is an obvious conclusion I draw from your information and analysis.

School grades are a crude instrument trying to summarize subtle, elusive information about schools' effectiveness. It's surgery with a dull hatchet. The problems you describe indicate some of the reasons the current system fails to do the job it is supposed to do. But I don't think there's a fix. Add as many qualifiers as you want to the grading system's rubric, and you'll still get flawed results. To continue with my surgery metaphor, you can hone that hatchet's blade to a razor's edge, and it's still a hatchet. It still won't be a proper tool to perform a delicate operation.

A-F school grades are a destructive measure of school effectiveness. They are a continuation of the No Child Left Behind travesty which was forced on our nation's schools by the Bush administration, with the help of a sizable group of Congressional Democrats. Our schools have been hurt, not helped, by our obsession with standardized testing as a measurement of educational quality.

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Posted by David Safier on 06/18/2018 at 10:13 AM

Re: “Claytoon of the Day: Free Kool-Aid

Unfortunately, quite a few of my friends DID drink the kool-aid!

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Posted by PVK on 06/18/2018 at 9:55 AM

Re: “In Which I Find Myself Agreeing With (1) John Huppenthal and (2) The Charles Koch Institute

I wouldn't mind beating the hell out of a school if we were confident they were an "F" or a "D" school, or even a C school. I wouldn't even mind accidentally beating the hell out of a "B" school.

But, here is the problem.

In the most recent National Assessment of Educational Progress, our Black 8th graders finished number one in the nation in math scores. Ahead of all 49 other states.

That must mean the majority of our Black elementary school students are attending "A" rated elementary schools, doing that "A" rated job.

But, not a single Arizona school with a Black student population over 5% is rated A.

And, here is another problem.

When I looked at the academic gains of our F rated schools, a number of them had greater academic gains than many of the A rated schools.

The formula concocted by the geniuses on the State Board was steering students to schools in which, if you can squeeze any information out of standardized test scores, our best science was telling us were below average.

Any school with consistently below average academic gains should never be labeled an "A" school.

Any school with consistently above average academic gains should never be labeled a "D" or "F".

And, here is another problem, potentially irrecoverable.

A recent study by Sean Reardon of Stanford featured nationally and much discussed, found almost no correlation between 5-year academic gains and one-year academic gains. Potentially meaning that this entire mishmash of numbers has no real meaning at all, that it is so comprehensively gamed that it has no meaning at all.

The number one district in the state, the most test-score focused district in the state, came out with exactly average academic gains over the five year period, 2011 to 2015. This the district with the highest one-year academic gains in the state.

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 06/18/2018 at 8:46 AM

Re: “In Which I Find Myself Agreeing With (1) John Huppenthal and (2) The Charles Koch Institute

The focus needs to be on economic policy and the bottom line is the right of those who work for a living in the wealthiest country in the world to have stable employment with good working conditions that earns them a living wage, quality single payer health care, access to HIGH QUALITY free K-12 education, affordable college education not financed by undismissable loan debt, a social security system not mismanaged to the point of collapse, etc.

When it comes to these issues, what are the leaf blowers that prevents us from tracking them and exerting collective pressure behind them and who is wielding those leaf blowers? Locally, who voted to outsource the management of substitute teachers in TUSD? Which two 2016 Board candidates received donations from the private company to which labor had been outsourced? Where did the suggestion to remove the Latino plaintiffs in the TUSD desegregation case come from? Nationally, take a look at NYTimes headlines and news alerts for the last year and a half. What percent of them deal with economic and labor policy issues? What percent deal with other issues? What ARE those other issues? When we got universal health care, why wasnt it single payer? During whose administration was a non-single payer system passed? During that same administration, how was the 2008 crisis resolved? On whose backs?

When it comes to failures with economic policy issues and failures of effective labor advocacy, the Republicans and the Koch brothers are not the only culprits. Currently, concern is successfully being diverted from what it should be focused on, and the non-stop hysteria over Trump is one of the loudest and most persistent leaf blowers that is being used to do it. To say so and to note accurately that people who might have joined an authentic, labor-focused effort are deserting the partisan field is to ask for better. Asking for better in the current climate may not immediately be effective, but it is part of what needs to be done if better is ever to be achieved.

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Posted by Where are the obstacles to better labor policy? on 06/18/2018 at 8:21 AM

Re: “In Which I Find Myself Agreeing With (1) John Huppenthal and (2) The Charles Koch Institute

I am not sure why those that are making the money are not exposed as those that have everything to gain on the backs who have everything to lose. People discuss policy as if law is come by fair and square. The arrogance is frankly unconscionable.

For example, a wealthy lawyer whose office is in our low rent neighborhood has his driveway serviced by a leaf blower. At 2am, the blowers engine echoes for approximately 30 minutes at a steadily annoying decibel throughout the blocks and cul de sacs on either side of his office.
What do you think the response to this sort of self serving action would be in his Foothills neighborhood?

What does this have to do with education and the right to hear the opinions of others?

How many years did we watch Congress fail to act because they were politically motivated? How did Teachers feel watching Az Congress people like Kelly Townsend watch movies and play computer games on their laptops when she might have respectfully chosen to LISTEN during legislative sessions that they forced into early morning hours.

All you calm and collected people can sit back and watch your stocks go up and blab about policy and how theres nothing we can do. But hear me on this one. Your money is being made on the backs of people that are suffering and now, on children that are suffering, to provide you with cheap goods. All of our air and water quality is compromised because of geniuses like the Koch organization. People are being compromised the world over by the sort of arrogance our lawyer neighbor has chosen to assert.
Maybe people are shouting because few are listening. Maybe they cant hear over their leaf blowers.

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Posted by Cordi Aka on 06/18/2018 at 6:08 AM

Re: “Tucson Salvage

Hi Julie,

There is not an error in paragraph two, rather two different individuals are being described, especially for the "base commander" a spindly Nam vet (three Marine tours) with thick white hair and burnt, seen-it-all eyes, AND his "co-commander," Scott Powers, a tough, compact man of 60. BOTH of whom are under "high stress."

(And I sincerely appreciate your fairness toward Mr. Powers.)

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Posted by desertgirl39 on 06/18/2018 at 1:15 AM

Re: “Tucson Salvage

Hi Julia,

There is not an error in the second paragraph, rather two different individuals are being described, especially for the "base commander" a spindly Nam vet (three Marine tours) with thick white hair and burnt, seen-it-all eyes, AND his "co-commander," Scott Powers, a tough, compact man of 60. BOTH of whom are under "high stress."

(And I sincerely appreciate your fairness to Mr.Powers.)

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Posted by desertgirl39 on 06/18/2018 at 1:15 AM

Re: “In Which I Find Myself Agreeing With (1) John Huppenthal and (2) The Charles Koch Institute

Why are you so hung up on the dislikes? Do they fuel your need to hate?

And you're correct about Trump not getting anywhere in the White House. He will also be going up...the river.

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Posted by CW13 fails again! on 06/17/2018 at 11:46 PM

Re: “Tucson Salvage

There is an error in the second paragraph. Nobody who is aged sixty could have served even one combat tour in Vietnam, let alone three.

In fairness to Mr. Powers, perhaps it was a reporting or editing error.

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Posted by Julia Sullivan on 06/17/2018 at 5:41 PM

Re: “In Which I Find Myself Agreeing With (1) John Huppenthal and (2) The Charles Koch Institute

I'd dislike it too if I had the absolute, undying hatred for PRESIDENT Trump the way you clowns do. Everyday waking up knowing he's still in the White House and he ain't going nowhere. Except up.

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Posted by CW13 on 06/17/2018 at 12:17 PM
Posted by CW13 on 06/16/2018 at 9:27 PM

Re: “In Which I Find Myself Agreeing With (1) John Huppenthal and (2) The Charles Koch Institute

Why? If it isn't anti-Trump these fools won't believe it. Just like they still don't believe he's president. Trust me, I checked in the N.Y. Times today. He still is.

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Posted by CW13 on 06/16/2018 at 2:21 PM

Re: “In Which I Find Myself Agreeing With (1) John Huppenthal and (2) The Charles Koch Institute

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Posted by williamwilson on 06/16/2018 at 1:35 PM

Re: “The Red and the Black

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Posted by williamwilson on 06/16/2018 at 1:28 PM

Re: “The 'Invest in Education Act' For Tax Dummies (Like Me)

Congratulations Asshole! You finally got your first 100!

Now...bend over for a kiss.

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Posted by CW13 fails again! on 06/16/2018 at 12:33 PM

Re: “In Which I Find Myself Agreeing With (1) John Huppenthal and (2) The Charles Koch Institute

Don't hold your ignorance Little Man.

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Posted by CW13 fails again! on 06/16/2018 at 12:06 PM

Re: “In Which I Find Myself Agreeing With (1) John Huppenthal and (2) The Charles Koch Institute

Don't hold your breath, little David.

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Posted by CW13 on 06/16/2018 at 10:59 AM

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