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Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

Thank you for writing what you did, Hard Work. But now I'm even more confused.

Wouldn't it be better for you and your family to not have to struggle so hard? Why does anyone have to "earn" health care? No one should have to work 3 jobs to be able to live a decent life.

To me, "government" and "taxpayers" are human beings deciding that other human beings (all of us) deserve to be taken care of. Don't the major religions all talk about caring for our neighbors? This is what I want my taxes spent on!

EVERY OTHER civilized country provides some form of health care to their people. The president just praised the Australian system, where everyone has health care and prescription prices are controlled.

The system we have isn't working AND it's expensive. We have relatively high infant mortality. We have lots of bankruptcies from health care bills. Our life spans are getting shorter.

Why not -- as a nation -- take care of each other? If you are not heartless, then what stops you from opening your heart to this possibility? We as a country are so rich, and so talented -- of course we can make this happen. What could possibly be your objection to that? There's plenty of money. We're just not spending it in the right places.

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Posted by blaze_mason on 05/05/2017 at 3:43 PM

Re: “The Weekly List: 15 Things To Do In Tucson In The Next 10 Days

Why put a band you obviously hate (Handsome Ghost) on your to do list?? Seems so childish and rude to a band trying to make it in a very cutthroat world.

Posted by Luke on 05/05/2017 at 3:35 PM

Re: “Rosemont Mine Put on Hold By Hudbay Minerals

Rosemont should be mined with underground technology not open pit. Rosemont needs a new owner with a better idea of how to mine this deposit. Take a technology lesson from the coal industry or just call Caterpillar they will send remote controlled equipment that will harvest, process and put what is left back where it came from with very little disturbance of the surface. Copper prices being what they are this is a non issue. There is no demand increase on the horizon.

Posted by Donald Hock on 05/05/2017 at 3:31 PM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

Sorry blaze_mason but I have diabetes. I have birth defects and crippling disease in my family. I have worked three jobs to pay for what I felt was a priority. But I never expected the government or taxpayers to financially support me.

You have gotten yourself caught up in the hatred and negativity that surfaced during the election.

Thanks for calling me heartless. Nothing could be further from the truth.

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Posted by Hard Work Pays Off on 05/05/2017 at 2:32 PM

Re: “Got a Bachelor's Degree? There May Be a Public School Teaching Job Waiting For You.

Private & parochial schools have often considered subject knowledge (not always even with a degree) as a reason to assign teachers to classrooms. There's plenty of evidence of success. For several years in the 1980s an anthropology graduate led Tucson students in state Latin competitions, and in summer took groups to Italy. She taught at a small, inexpensive parochial school - not an elite private school.

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Posted by Phild on 05/05/2017 at 1:59 PM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

This woman needs to go... we need someone in office who has a backbone and not just a filthy mouth.... remember this when it is time to vote her OUT....

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Posted by Zumba Girl on 05/05/2017 at 12:17 PM

Re: “Too Much Junkie Business

All this 80s junkie shit is really tiring. I think this story is over.

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Posted by John Rapp on 05/05/2017 at 12:06 PM

Re: “Got a Bachelor's Degree? There May Be a Public School Teaching Job Waiting For You.

Response to Remedy:

You miss the subtlety of my concern about testing. Testing is the only way we have of measuring academic gains so we have to refer to it to gain a sense of how the system is working.

However, knowing how well you are doing is different than making test scores the centerpiece of your culture as a school. In 7 years of chairing a school board, I very seldom mentioned test scores and for four of those years, didn't even have test scores as a part of our performance system. However, I did talk about quality with almost every single breath and we ended up with very high academic gain scores. The very highest quality is what gets you high academic gain scores. Quality is motivated teachers, motivated students and engaged parents. Focusing on test scores helps none of these.

However, repeatedly low academic gain scores is a sign that quality is missing. Look closely beneath the hood and you commonly find a system extremely focused on test scores.

You are right that teaching at its best is an extraordinary skill and that most teachers recognize that education culture as it is can not deliver an environment that will enable them to be their best and they leave, not because of pay but because a lack of job satisfaction.

We have over 1,000 school board members in this state and over 200 superintendents. How many them, right from memory, could tell you the percentage of teachers rating their schools an excellent place to work and be accurate to within 30 percentile points? My guess - less than ten. I have performed that pop quiz numerous times.

The system won't deliver to teachers what they desperately want and need - excellent support in the classroom.

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Posted by on 05/05/2017 at 11:35 AM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

It's a losing argument when you try to make republicans feel bad for their selfish, inhumane way of thinking. Their mantra is "I got mine, screw you!"

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Posted by Fishfry on 05/05/2017 at 10:32 AM

Re: “Got a Bachelor's Degree? There May Be a Public School Teaching Job Waiting For You.

Indeed, as I have stated elsewhere, this is just the bill suggested by HT Sanchez and Graham-Keegan in the Daily Star some time last year. Don't be fooled--that doesn't make it non-partisan: Sanchez was told by the Board majority that although he was a Republican in Texas he would have to re-register as a Democrat here.....which it seems he never did,(register, that is), or at least he didn't show up on the rolls, despite how often he showed up in the state house to tell them how to educate our kids. This idea was one of his worst, in my mind. As a once- landscaper, I know exactly how respected one feels when the people who hire you are all sure they can do the job better than you can, and that is the sentiment expressed here. Yeah, sure, excite 38 kids all together in a classroom about learning? And then get them to advance and satisfy expectations for the high stakes standardized testing at the end of the semester? Easy. Right? Everyone who thinks that ought to have to do it (but my child will not be available for your experiment). Will Basis be hiring those teachers, Freuchtendler, Sahuaro or UHS? Its just another nail in the coffin of a profession that should be honored and paid above all others, for it is creating and tending the future.

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Posted by Betts Putnam-Hidalgo on 05/05/2017 at 9:59 AM

Re: “Do Arizona Republicans Want to (a) Dismantle; (b) Damage; (c) Degrade; and/or (d) Devalue Public Education?

Did Southern Arizona Democrats want to degrade the quality of services offered in the largest public school district in the region, which serves just under 50,000 students?

Probably not, but that is exactly what they did when they had rock-solid majority control of the TUSD Board 2012-2016. Though I've been a voting, donating, volunteering Democrat in this state and other states, the degraded spectacle of TUSD 2012-2016 will prevent me from voting for, donating to, or volunteering in support of any AZ gubernatorial or legislative candidate that endorsed members of the 2012-2016 TUSD Board majority.

Until the Democratic party stops excusing and enabling the mess that is TUSD, their policy agenda of restricting the use of public funds available for K-12 education to the public district system will be irresponsible and discriminatory, one that, if implemented, would lock minority and lower SES families into "educational" institutions that do not meet their needs. (And no, for the millionth time, increasing funding to TUSD is not all that is needed to improve services to its low-SES students. Anyone who doubts that should take a close look at what was done with Title 1, desegregation, 301 and 123 funds 2012-2016.)

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Posted by Local Democrats have done their share to "degrade" public ed. on 05/05/2017 at 9:58 AM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

To those who are talking about "free stuff" and getting a better "work ethic" and "envy" about rich people -- you are completely out of line.

Don't you know anyone who has diabetes or cancer? Don't you know anyone who works a couple of part-time jobs to make ends meet and gets no benefits from either one? Don't you know anyone whose child was born with a birth defect? Your heartlessness and lack of compassion are appalling. People will die if Trumpcare becomes law.

This bill takes money directly from poor and working people and gives it to the extremely rich, who don't need it at all. Why you would applaud such a move -- which will eventually affect you and the people you love -- is bewildering to me.

You want to make America "great"? Let's join the civilized world and do what every other developed country does (and many not so developed) and take care of each other. There's plenty of money in the United States. We just spend it on the wrong stuff, like trips to golf resorts, multimillion-dollar bombs, and tax breaks for billionaires.

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Posted by blaze_mason on 05/05/2017 at 9:52 AM

Re: “Too Much Junkie Business

great read - thanks. "everybody stares, and everybody hoots. johnny always needs, more than he shoots. new york city, i guess it's cool when it's dark, and there's one sure way, you can leave your mark. johnny's gonna die.."
just finished 'trouble boys' about the replacements and the story about paul westerberg seeing thunders and the look in his eyes, and getting this jolt and writing 'johnny's gonna die' right after that, plus the audacity to write it while he was still alive and close to his peak is chilling.

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Posted by someguy on 05/05/2017 at 9:47 AM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

McSally has found a comfortable spot on Trumps lap.

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Posted by ronko on 05/05/2017 at 9:02 AM

Re: “Got a Bachelor's Degree? There May Be a Public School Teaching Job Waiting For You.

Huppenthal - You regularly deride testing as a measure of learning, so when you talk about "academic gains" made by students of various kinds of teachers, credentialed and un-credentialed, what method are you using to measure those gains?

BSLAP - Teaching IS a profession, so your pervasive, condescending contrast of "teachers" with "professionals" makes no sense. The attrition rate in the teaching profession is very high -- among those who do the training and receive certification, a large percentage of them leave the profession during the first three years and never return. Some of those leaving, in my experience, are among those most equipped to provide excellent instruction to students. Why do some of the best candidates leave the profession so quickly? In this state, SALARIES that are shockingly low and insufficient to compensate for the amount of time that must be invested, which for most teachers I know is much more than 40 hours per week. LACK OF RESPECT from parents, many of whom think they themselves are "professionals" and teachers are not. WORKING CONDITIONS that undermine your ability to deliver instruction that is meaningful and effective, e.g. for English teachers, too many sections to teach / not enough planning time / class sizes too large to assign and respond to as much writing as students should be asked to do to properly develop in the discipline. And in recent years, increasingly, externally imposed TESTING and ACCOUNTABILITY regimes that demand teaching to the test and make a mockery of what instruction in a good classroom should be.

Reducing credentialing requirements and eliminating the need for teachers to study child development, pedagogy, and methods in the disciplines may make future "teachers" more vulnerable to the purveyors of crap curricula and scripted instruction who would love to profit from massive adoptions of their shoddy materials without any effective push-back from the professionals who are asked to employ this garbage to "teach" students, but it will absolutely not improve services delivered to students. It will further degrade them in a context in which underpaying, undervaluing, and creating toxic working conditions for teachers has already done much to destroy this state's ability to deliver sound K-12 education.

There's only one thing left both to good teachers who want to teach responsibly and to young people who want to raise families without having to navigate the degraded, unregulated nightmare K-12 schooling in AZ has become: get the hell out of the state.

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Posted by Only one effective remedy left: leave the state of AZ. on 05/05/2017 at 8:31 AM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

bslap and Hard Off:

Asinine commentary and ignorance regarding the issues will get you nowhere.

Please pay more attention and don't bother to make commentary on issues that are too complicated for you.

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Posted by Hard Off deserves a bitch slap in Cuba on 05/05/2017 at 7:10 AM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare

McSally, you make me feel sick.

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Posted by Mary Ann Rosas on 05/05/2017 at 6:52 AM

Re: “AP: McSally Urges Colleagues To Vote for This 'Fucking Thing,' aka Zombie Trumpcare


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Posted by Guitarman61 on 05/05/2017 at 6:42 AM

Re: “Too Much Junkie Business

Damn, son! You gonna write a book?

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Posted by Carl Hanni on 05/05/2017 at 6:38 AM

Re: “Got a Bachelor's Degree? There May Be a Public School Teaching Job Waiting For You.

Reality bites. Long past due.

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Posted by Dave N on 05/05/2017 at 5:59 AM

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