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Re: “No Thanks, Trump

NO AMOUNT OF BLOOD, Rape of Women, Child Sexual Slavery, or Human Misery will satisfy the political delusions of THESE self righteous supporters of Open Border Policy as they CONTINUE to promulgate the "Raza Revolution" and "Aid and Abet, Entice and Invite and otherwise to ENCOURAGE the illegal entry of impoverished Mexican Citizens for political and economic exploitation!!!

22 likes, 61 dislikes
Posted by KitWarden on 06/15/2017 at 7:05 AM

Re: “Forced Submission

Look up targeted citizens and the use of directed energy weapons including V2K, remote neural monitoring, microwaving, scalar, and gang stalking. The government and coproations are using these technologies to violate the minds and bodies of innocent citizens remotely. Expose and end the torture and silent holocaust. The war on terror is really a war against good citizens.

Posted by wakeup on 06/12/2017 at 8:51 AM

Re: “Desert Ordeal

If your religion tells you to let people die in the desert because they committed the horrible "sin" of trying to survive then your religion is wrong. You efforts to seriously try to invoke your ridiculous idea of "god" as justification for such hatred is right up there with those others you hate so much for their "hateful" religion.

And if you don't have a single religious motive but still think allowing people to die in the desert is OK, then you certainly have no heart and are an evil person.

34 likes, 5 dislikes
Posted by Allen Charles on 06/10/2017 at 8:40 AM

Re: “Desert Ordeal

Follow the Laws, we can disagree on whether migrants sin when they cross. I'm really not in the position to say as I don't claim to know specific circumstances. In my comments, I was stating the question at hand as having to do with our reaction to migration. We seem to agree that we are called to be merciful. Where we seem to disagree is whether Jesus' command to extend mercy (as he says we must do when we visit the imprisoned) relies on whether we deem them to be guilty or innocent. I believe it does not. We are to visit prisoners, as we are to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, etc. if they have sinned or not. Whether they "deserve" our mercy is immaterial. For example, if a person gets hit by a car while jaywalking (or robbing a bank even) we need to come to their aid and at least call an ambulance. If a person broke immigration laws and, for the sake of argument, sinned, we must still come to their aid and welcome the stranger when they are treated unjustly. When does that happen? When people are deported after many years of living in this country without getting into trouble; when we deport U.S. combat veterans who break the law (even for minor offenses); when we deport DACA students if they steal a pair of shoes; when we cause children to fear that they'll come home after school and not find their parents. To treat them just is to make them pay penalties like everybody else. To treat them unjustly is to tack on additional penalties simply because of their legal status and because we want to be all about the law. But what about God's Law? How do I sin when I don't extend mercy, and how does the nation disobey a command of God (as you reference in Acts) when we fail to see others as fellow children of God. Further along the passage you quote in Romans, Paul instructs us that 'Love does no evil to the neighbor; hence, love is the fulfillment of the law.' In essence, we are to love for love, ahem, trumps law.

39 likes, 4 dislikes
Posted by Carlos Rodriguez on 06/09/2017 at 5:06 PM

Re: “Desert Ordeal

"We wholeheartedly believe that Christians are called to be compassionate and merciful toward immigrants (Exodus 22:21; Leviticus 19:3334; Matthew 25:35). We also believe that the United States should have a more compassionate and merciful immigration policy. However, that is not the question at hand. The question at hand concerns illegal immigrationwhether it is wrong to violate a nations borders and transgress its immigration laws.

Romans 13:17 makes it abundantly clear that God expects us to obey the laws of the government. The only exception to this is when a law of the government forces us to disobey a command of God (Acts 5:29). Illegal immigration is the breaking of a governments law. There is nothing in Scripture that contradicts the idea of a sovereign nation having immigration laws. Therefore, it is rebellion against God to unlawfully enter another country. Illegal immigration is a sin."

Carlos, I appreciated your post above until I thought about it and researched some facts.

6 likes, 43 dislikes
Posted by Follow the Laws on 06/09/2017 at 3:39 PM

Re: “Desert Ordeal

The purpose of the walk is to raise awareness and to remember the dead. More than 7,000 people have died crossing the US-Mexico border in the last 20 years -- and that number only includes the ones who have been discovered. Now you know. What you choose to do with that information is between you and your God.

To suggest that our 75-mile walk encourages or discourages anyone from making the trek north is foolish. People migrate to escape violence, reunite with family, and to search for a better life. I am certain that the face of a hungry child is more compelling than my blistered feet.

While governments in source countries share the blame, the United States cannot claim to be innocent. International trade policies that make it impossible for people to make a living in their home countries, expatriated gang members who learned the thug life in the U.S. and are now committing atrocities in their original homelands, immigration policies that make it unrealistic to wait in line, walls around urban crossing ports of entry that force people into more remote and dangerous routes, and the continued demonization of people who simply want to feed their families all contribute to this man-made humanitarian crisis. Migration (as we see it in the animal kingdom) is part of God's Creation. While we can agree that borders help a nation regulate who enters and who does not, border enforcement must be humane. Judgment day will come for us individually and as nations (see Matthew 25:31-45).

Finally, how we treat one another matters. Walls, anti-immigrant ordinances, and sin all separate us from one another and from God.

57 likes, 7 dislikes
Posted by Carlos Rodriguez on 06/09/2017 at 2:33 PM

Re: “Desert Ordeal

...and now they are heading to Canada. Better get your hiking shoes on.

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Posted by Art Chapman on 06/08/2017 at 10:11 AM

Re: “Desert Ordeal

There would be fewer or no deaths if they were not determined to violate our laws in crossing the border illegally.
Everyone has lost sight of the fact that it is the governments in the countries that they come from who do absolutely nothing to help their poor and impovished.....they are the real problem and not America and it's immigration laws!

11 likes, 56 dislikes
Posted by norm9 on 06/08/2017 at 8:25 AM

Re: “Desert Ordeal

For the past 3 decades the above so-called "humanitarians" have aided and abetted, enticed and invited and otherwise ENCOURAGED the illegal entry of Mexico's poor with the following result:

1.Excess labor by Illegal Workers has driven DOWN the wages of American working families,many of whom are Hispanic or recent lawful immigrants;
2. Illegal Workers have driven UP the profits of fat cat employers who often employ them for less than minimum wage;
3. The American Legal Establishment now has an endless number of criminal cases to prosecute, adjudicate and defend;
4 Groups like Derechos Humanos have received tens of millions of dollars to alleviate the misery of Mexico's Poor they helped to create;
5. Criminal Cartels have made hundreds of millions of dollars in human trafficking;
7. Entering women have been subject to rape, and sold into sexual slavery;
9. Entering children have been kidnapped and sold into sexual slavery.

And the Tucson Weekly has assisted this hideous enterprise by hiding the truth and failing to report what REALLY happens to Illegals in America!

9 likes, 59 dislikes
Posted by KitWarden on 06/08/2017 at 6:12 AM

Re: “Desert Ordeal

Some people feel so guilty for being born American. Instead of doing this easy thing, why not do something useful and leave the U.S. to help really poor people in Africa, Asia, and Central America.
Don't make me pay for your terminal guilty conscience by flooding my country with illegal immigrants.

11 likes, 64 dislikes
Posted by bslap on 06/08/2017 at 5:22 AM

Re: “A Final Vigil

Great. !0 people who want to celebrate the lives of people who died sneaking into the country illegally. However, they object to a vigil for U.S. citizens killed by illegals. What do you people use to think?

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Posted by CW13 on 06/05/2017 at 7:43 AM

Re: “A Final Vigil

Things have been a little too quiet around here all week. I'll fix that.
How about a vigil for Police officer Don Johnson.? Or David Benton? Maybe Steven Woods? Or Tina Davila? Or one of my favorites 18 year old Joshua Wilkenson. He's the Texas High School student who was murdered and set on fire by a fellow student.
I'll bet you can guess what all of these people have in common.

0 likes, 41 dislikes
Posted by CW13 on 06/03/2017 at 10:56 AM

Re: “Fighting Abuse

"He said the campaign is gender-based because, while men are not always the abusers and women not always the abused, that is the vast majority of cases, and they have to start somewhere."

Sorry, but according to the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, that majority is not so vast. From their website: "1 in 3 women and 1 in 4 men have been victims of [some form of] physical violence by an intimate partner within their lifetime."

I am not trying to diminish anybody's problems here, just shedding some light. My position is simple:
Straight men should not hurt their wives or girlfriends.
Straight women should not hurt their husbands or boyfriends.
Gay men should not hurt their husbands or boyfriends.
Lesbians should not hurt their wives or girlfriends.
Whether you're male or female, straight or LGBT, no one should have to endure an abusive relationship.
The desire to overpower and dominate another person is not necessarily gendered.
But it is very, very wrong.
Best wishes to survivors.

5 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by Ex-Arizonan on 06/01/2017 at 7:59 PM

Re: “A Final Vigil

bslap-Maybe you can go to Yuma to organize your vigil. You should find lots of support there.…

44 likes, 6 dislikes
Posted by retrorv on 06/01/2017 at 9:41 AM

Re: “A Final Vigil

For Decades, these so-called "humanitarians" aided and abetted, enticed and invited and otherwise encouraged the illegal entrance of impoverished Mexicans for the "humanitarians" own economic and political exploitation.

Do you "GET IT?"

The misery suffered by the Mexican poor lies directly at the feet of Hoover, Fife, Margo Cowen, Isabel Garcia and the Tucson Weekly for their decades long celebration of the "pro-raza open borders movement."

8 likes, 52 dislikes
Posted by KitWarden on 06/01/2017 at 9:29 AM

Re: “A Final Vigil

Too bad there's no vigil for the American workers pushed out of work by the flow of cheap illegal labor these vigil-ers help preserve.

6 likes, 54 dislikes
Posted by bslap on 06/01/2017 at 6:01 AM

Re: “Hispanic Chamber applauds Ducey education, business efforts

Half the country thinks they are trying to fix it. But first can we get an agreement that it is broken?

4 likes, 24 dislikes
Posted by Public Ed Is So Broken on 05/28/2017 at 10:08 AM

Re: “Hispanic Chamber applauds Ducey education, business efforts

Public Ed is so broken because Republicans have broken it.

25 likes, 3 dislikes
Posted by BrianS on 05/26/2017 at 5:21 PM

Re: “Hispanic Chamber applauds Ducey education, business efforts

"Those kids can take a $5,400 debit card out of their local district school and take it with them to a private school," Farley said.

Sorry Farley, but you only did half the math. there is a $5400 credit to the school expenses that loses the child. It is a net zero sum gain. Less students equals less teachers equals lower payroll and matching taxes and benefits thus fewer buildings.

Please try to tell the whole story next time.

4 likes, 23 dislikes
Posted by Public Ed Is So Broken on 05/25/2017 at 4:16 PM

Re: “Crop Conundrum

Field conditions are what they are. Farm work is what it is. Just how does Bslap propose to improve working conditions? I worked the fields as a kid, picking strawberries, hoeing the fields, cleaning the barns. If he thinks he can find "Americans" at any price willing to do that work, he is smoking some weird stuff.

I am not a fan of giving illegals an easy path to citizenship, as they are here illegally, but the H2A visa system is necessary and needs to be expanded.

5 likes, 2 dislikes
Posted by lc69hunter on 05/25/2017 at 12:52 PM

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