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Comment Archives: stories: News & Opinion: Medical MJ

Re: “Puff Daddies

Ok then it seems that the medical Marijuana program is working ?

Decreases in teenage use, controlled access monitored consumption annual doctor visits to discuss use. Where's the downside on a state level in the existing program ?

It would be ok by me to reduce the amount the state charges for a license. Or allowing/subsidizing some of the monies collected to go to doctors that follow more comprehensive program and collect non personal data for public study.

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 12/22/2016 at 9:54 AM

Re: “Puff Daddies

re: the 55 and older crowd. Remember when they grew up. The 60's and 70's. It was the drug of choice.

Now with aches and pains which come with that age, they can get a medical chit to legally consume it.

The only fly in that ointment is the Ninth Circuit decision on Aug 31 (wrongly decided, I might add) that said if you consume marijuana, legally or otherwise, you have no Second Amendment rights.

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Posted by lc69hunter on 12/22/2016 at 6:02 AM

Re: “Boom and Bust

I am perplexed, some are of the opinion that a heavily taxed Marijuana distribution like prop 205 would compete with addiction of opioids?

So the Recreational would have take place of the prescribed ? I would then guess the enhanced concentrated would then compete with the heroin? Sold like alcohol taxed like the King's Gold. Competes and will eliminate the cartels will reduce illegal drug economy . Reduce drug crime police & courts & prisons.

Seems to me we are looking at 2 wolves trying to eat the same piece of meat. The suppliers of fresh meat are seeing limits on market. Most doctors are now paid by bookings.

The real meaning of the Medical Marijuana was to get help and educate. We see now all kinds of Medical professionals who want to get billable bookings. The Idea of going to the doctor and asking what dont you want or do want ? Alcohol, Opioids, psychotropic, nicotine, cannabis.

We dont need to lose sight of what Medical Marijuana was meant to be for and why the people voted for it. Medical Marijuana was not meant to be the vehicle of tax revenue. New administrative enforcement, courts, all the things a legislature can't or won't handle.

Where is the logic to any of this paying to exist solinet green.

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 12/15/2016 at 7:45 AM

Re: “What Are They Smoking?

I would only add to Concerned Mom that she is joining Chris Christie in accusing cannabis consumers of lack of self control - this coming from a man who cannot control his weight even after a gastric bypass surgery. The hypocrisy, it burns!

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Posted by Jeffrey Patten on 12/12/2016 at 7:08 PM

Re: “What Are They Smoking?

Wow Concerned Mom, I figure that your kids are stressing you out. Disappear for a few minutes in the comfort of your bedroom and light one up. Hopefully your attitude will improve.

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Posted by AZ/DC! on 12/10/2016 at 5:37 PM

Re: “What Are They Smoking?

It is interesting how the loosening of requirements intended to fast-track treatments for AIDS allowed hundreds, if not thousands, of pharmaceutical company-created drugs to flood the market making billions, yet medical marijuana is still struggling for a place.

It only goes to prove my earlier point -- if they can't make a very lot of money from it, the use of marijuana for medical and recreational purposes will continue to be an uphill battle.

It also doesn't help that prosecuting marijuana "offenses" and incarcerating the offenders remains a serious revenue stream for the private prison systems in the United States, a trend that is not likely to change in the next four years.

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Posted by sgsmith on 12/10/2016 at 3:27 PM

Re: “What Are They Smoking?

As indicated in the article, the "movement" also has much to do with decades of past injustices and millions of prosecutions with confiscation of property and ruining of lives without conscience. It used to be much worse than it is now, but mean spirited intolerance, Concerned Mom, is still a bigger problem in this country than people who prefer marijuana.

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Posted by Could Be Better on 12/10/2016 at 6:35 AM

Re: “High Hopes for High Times

I know he is not in office yet, but when that nominee for top-cop Attorney General said that "good people do not smoke marijuana" he clearly showed his cards and, like Trump, will never admit he's wrong. Richard Nixon had a "no knock" law with police crashing through doors to catch "bad" people and soon we may have them standing in the living rooms of America again.

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Posted by Could Be Better on 12/08/2016 at 6:47 AM

Re: “What Are They Smoking?

The movement itself is based on a total lack of self control. The country has a serious problem with it.

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Posted by Concerned Mom on 12/08/2016 at 6:33 AM

Re: “What Are They Smoking?

The reason the legalization of marijuana is gaining any momentum at all in certain circles has less to do with the change in public attitudes than the potential for taxes and monetization by government entities and powerful corporations.

If you need any examples of how terribly wrong this can go look no further than efforts to tax and monetize the Internet and social media. As soon as the powers to be figure out how to make the "Interweb" pay out, you can forget about streaming anything other than infomercials.

As for legalizing marijuana, same thing, once they figure out how to tax it and the corporations are growing it look for "Big Fats" and "Quarter-bags with seeds" with more carcinogens and added ingredients than fast foods.

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Posted by sgsmith on 12/08/2016 at 5:10 AM

Re: “High Hopes for High Times

In a perfect world, it would just be about the health and quality of life for the patient; Unfortunately, in the world we live in, unless there is money to be made -- and I mean lots and lots of money -- the health and quality of life for patients will not even move the needle on the average career politicians G.A.S. (give a sh@t) gauge.

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Posted by sgsmith on 12/01/2016 at 2:58 PM

Re: “High Hopes for High Times

Just a tidbit a new foundation is being set in Washington a new congress.

Congress just passed a" 21st Centuries Cure Act " This was co written by Our Martha McSally.

This is major this alone in the 11th hour will force the new congress to take action. We will see the schedule 1 change and study federal standards licensing processing standards. flower will be allowed as it is the fastest delivery method possible controllable on dosage and safe.

We dont hear that much from McSally in this tumultuous political climate. With this we know that she is working this is how the schedule 1 change will happen. Plus so much more for mental health. A bomb went off in Washington exploding the climate I am happy to have her there in a senior environment with a need to come to her endorsement for the next congress.

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 12/01/2016 at 7:42 AM

Re: “High Hopes for High Times

IMHO. To see a qualified doctor with the certification and discuss the use. This alone should be a strong consideration for keeping expanding as well as new targets to direct.

I talk frequently with my neurologist and internist about my use and relate that. I have asked several times if there was an alternate medication. While they all said yes we can try some but in your case it is trial and adjust. Then they all looked at me with complex why would you want to change what's working? My blood work is in control, you're moving around you can help with your high functioning autistic grandchild why would you want to change? Well the stigma and the possible legal ramifications.

So here I wonder Just what is up with our congressmen get this off the schedule 1. There is no other target at this point we dont need crony capitalism of marketability like the public rapeing that 205 would have done. It is not about legalize and tax at some point others have to understand it is about health and quality of life.

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 12/01/2016 at 7:19 AM

Re: “Roll Out

political montross superfluous to constructive legislation or legalisation. Just nonsense

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 11/29/2016 at 1:17 PM

Re: “Roll Out

Trump is not going to risk losing the support of the states that swung him into office, from Nevada to Florida. Marijuana is continuing to roll out.

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Posted by Sean Ongley on 11/27/2016 at 1:39 PM

Re: “Roll Out

Sessions said, "Good people don't smoke marijuana."

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Posted by Pima Mujer on 11/25/2016 at 12:46 PM

Re: “Roll Out

In my humble opinion, Sessions only has one thing in his favor. An unwavering support of the Second Amendment.

Other than that, he is an ass. He reminds me of Ashcroft, who was an unmitigated disaster and embarrassment as Attorney General.

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Posted by lc69hunter on 11/24/2016 at 8:37 AM

Re: “High Cost

Did you notice Nick had so much about the story he didn't mention who brought the suit. Just a little of the nuances of that are so persuasive from ADA but lack foundation.

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 11/10/2016 at 9:25 AM

Re: “High Cost

Nick Meyers ; While he equates the cost burden and the revenue received from the Medical Marijuana program.

I see two entities in the whole of considerations cost and returned revenue.

The numbers come from the AZDHS/MMJ program on figures released in the annual report.

For every dollar spent on marijuana in AZ the cost to get it to the point of sell is $.079. Put most of the cost of hiring a doctor to oversee the operation 25 cents for doctor to oversee, security for the operation 21 cents, inventory control costs 21 cents, product labeling 12, patient records 8 cents.

So for every dollar you spend on medical marijuana. where do you see the doctor at the dispensary. Is this to be like the methadone clinics around town owned by doctors that charge insurance $125.00 for a daily dose? That cost figured on what it cost illegally so we can build a business to extrapolate by legal means the same costs? that kind of progressive thinking is that same thinking that has the cartels booming with the heroin trade. The legal pill mills DEA restrictions on pill mill doctors pushing them into the methadone and heroin markets. Now we have pill mill /dispensary owners now since the money is here they have found faith and are singing I found the light come on everyone let's sing together another verse legalize to find the light.

another 21 cents out of every dollar goes to security. This is another bogus fee hire my brother in law to transport retired police he has a business a security company so will pay them $125.00 hr. then we rent from associates cameras windows megalocks safes etc. We dont buy we rent from associates keeps cost high we can always lower prices by culling this wasteful regulated practice.

Then there is inventory control another 21 cents out of every dollar. The cost for that is negotiable it should be close to inventory control of liquor which is .002 cent per dollar according to the Alcohol board.

Then product labeling is .012 cent per dollar excuse me ?? Some dont label, some dont test, some just apply the label on the average they have tested in the last month. there is no standardized testing or labeling but you are paying for it now as if it was there like other states.

let's look at patient records keeping costs $.08 yea buy a inventory, patient record, sales, tax , labor & overhead program and server to handle all of this attribute the cost of this to each and every aspect of the line items listed above.

If prop 205 passed all the operation costs could be cut by 60% or better and after facilities are paid pure profit. The cost of the plant and the area to grow $.08 cents

Let's look at this industry that we want to change the marijuana laws for are they really protecting us from the illegal cartels. I believe it follows the other illegal markets in history. Loan sharking was less than payday loans about half. Alcohol was getting so expensive to the mob that even Capone himself said I should have sold milk the margin was better. In that he had to pay for extreme amounts measure to insure high profits and returns for all that had their hands out. So the Volstead act keeping it illegal and the enforcement killing rivals and collections.

Does this look anything like the legal proposed "Department of Marijuana License and Controls." With police officer rights and authority authority to conduct covert investigations and then report to the board and its administrative court that will have the right to seize and confiscate assets and property REALLY.

Everyone should be joyous that wolf has gone away for awhile. Get off your butts and get this done right for 2018. Stop all this back room dealings. If you bought a lottery dispensary and want to sell then it should go to a lottery system. The point of sell and production should be separate. Testing and distribution should be separate and I believe the state should be the sole distributor throughout the state. All product should go through a state authorized testing facility weight and control monitored. then sold to dispensaries. This would stop price fixing, large operations running out the small local people As well as making it unattractive for out of state and foreign investment.

As of fact since we are making this a state control only. Where it has total control I say no advertizing to commit a federal crime billboards print. No out of state investment only full time Arizona citizens can have access to any kind of corporate or administrative rights associated with any part of the AZ marijuana program. Make the laws reflect the restriction put on to the patient. After all it is them that are paying the price.

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 11/10/2016 at 9:14 AM

Re: “High Cost

This is exactly why governments and corporations must be kept out of medical marijuana manufacturing and marketing, otherwise you are just replacing the illegal drug dealer with a more dangerous and exploitive pusher with the power of taxation, the courts and police. I still think the best solution is to allow individuals to grow and consume their own marijuana and prohibit any commercial sale of individually-grown marijuana. Commercial sale of Marijuana for medical use only should be permitted and regulated to ensure quality control, but absolutely do not let the pharmaceutical companies have anything to do with it whatsoever.

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Posted by sgsmith on 11/10/2016 at 8:59 AM

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