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Comment Archives: stories: News & Opinion: Medical MJ

Re: “Is Prop 205 Right for Arizona?

I was in favor of the other initiative, which did not make the ballot. I am not sure I will vote for this one.

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Posted by lc69hunter on 08/18/2016 at 6:02 AM

Re: “Is Prop 205 Right for Arizona?

The regulations will evolve to a simpler, more realistic level after the benefits of legalization accrue and the ingrained, irrational fear of this non-toxic plant subsides. It is absurd to favor prohibition over a legal, regulated market for a product dramatically less harmful than alcohol, tobacco or even caffeine.

24 likes, 5 dislikes
Posted by Don Berry on 08/18/2016 at 4:08 AM

Re: “Is Prop 205 Right for Arizona?

"Some locals are not okay with treating a joint like a bottle of gin"
True, alcohol being so much more dangerous than cannabis,
being put on the same level is sort of wrong. But the present system is even worse, so I'd be okay with it.

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Posted by Kenneth Groves on 08/18/2016 at 3:21 AM

Re: “The Real Madness

And if we legalize drugs, border crossers will vanish. Home invasions will stop and fewer jobs will be needed.

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Posted by Long Term Plan on 08/12/2016 at 10:47 AM

Re: “The Real Madness

Well with the recent DEA announcement it looks like the political hacks running today have given in again.

This has become a great windfall for so many policing and social structuring part of the economy. These have great interest in keeping it going as well as establishing their need or promoting so.

The sorry part these have missed their mark time after time. There are no benchmarks for success other than the money numbers game. More confiscated more arrested more interned more addicted.

Can anyone take the time what would actually happen if this did change the schedule classification from 1 to 2. Overnight and in a storm fashion upsetting so many established businesses. The Dispensaries and agents growers need this to stay the same.

As not under federal eye on so many fronts Banking, FDA, DEA, IRS, Interstate Commerce, International Trade, FTC, Commercial banking and investment banking business structure. States will be open to federal court oversight on business practices and investor holding.

Federal courts will be open on so many fronts criminal as well as civil. This will really test states rights over federal rights on so many fronts. LIke the story this is just another chapter in the BS and so many are thinking AZ has legalization possible in November.

The truth of the matter is the DEA cannot and does not want to mess with commerce laws. The DEA would just as soon to have this parameters of law enforcement and control left up to commerce laws. They would lose as sure as sun sets way to much case law precedent.

Want the next chapter of corruption graft greed and civil discourse related to marijuana being tied to all drugs. Vote to legalize in November a whole new read. Screw the patient the mentally dependent the chronic ailing dependent extort as much as possible to educate LMFAO

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 08/12/2016 at 9:42 AM

Re: “The Real Madness

Years ago, I took a trip to Amsterdam. I paid a visit to the Hash Marihuana & Hemp Museum. I learned quite a bit about why cannabis and related products are truly illegal in the good ole US of A.

The one thing that stood out on my visit were the US newspaper articles displayed which targeted cannabis as something enjoyed by (I don't remember the exact words used, but you should get the idea) the scary jazz loving criminal negroes.

Need I say more? Okay, I shall.

There were also articles and other advertising propaganda targeted against the evil black man which were sponsored by none other than, get ready for this...Anheuser-Busch! Imagine that. There's a definite conflict of interest here; yet the majority of White America in those days were convinced that, if spooky colored folk were the primary users of cannabis and its related products, then there must be something inherently sinister happening inside of that plant.

It's incredible to me that, damn near 90 years later, people are still swayed by greedy corporations, slimy politics, racism and plain old ignorance. It's time to realize that we must legalize.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ABc8ciT5QLs

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Posted by AZ/DC! on 08/12/2016 at 9:35 AM

Re: “Tucson Weedly's Cannabis Bowl

This list is surprisingly accurate. Earth's Healing definitely has the best customer service. I thought that was just me?

Posted by Buck on 08/12/2016 at 9:20 AM

Re: “The Real Madness

As long as there is some kind of governmental agency dealing with Marijuana. Make it illegal you make the define the market. Make it legal where's the profit.

As the story alluded to Harry Anslinger the new bureau of
" Department of Narcotic and Dangerous Drug " BNDD. This new governmental agency was volling congress for monies along with another new agency the FBI.

Both Harry Anslinger and J Edgar Hoover were trying to outperform compete with enforcement parameters. Both lobbied the FDR Congress for more laws hence more monies. Even the job to enforce alcohol prohibition was given to the treasury.

And both didn't like that either the repeal of the 18 amendment shut that police agency door. Now all governing agencies on both Federal and state levels as well as the FDA have concerns in the alcohol industry. Enforcement is left up to the in place laws and policing agencies

I believe it was Johnson that changed the denotation from BNDD to DEA . However the Schedule 1 category was put in under the Nixon Administration. Nixon carried on a secret war in south america on his drug .

As some said his paid death squads in Peru, Bolivia, Columbia actually got Pablo Escobar together with cocaine. The beginning of the cartels and we all know the story.

We all have seen the expansion with the war on drugs. The expansion of courts rehab prisons policing cartels money laundering corruption along with use.

We see methadone being administered but still the increase of heroin. I understand the daily dose of Methadone is around $100.00 $36,500 a year. Paid for insurance along with most of the other pharmical abused drugs. Just how can we fold Marijuana into that and still have it recreational ?

Some people believe a new state governmental department will do that. This new State Department will have control over much of the Alcohol & Tobacco board. It would take over every Vap store Smoke shop, growing industrial hemp, testing away from AZDHS, licensing enforcement.

This new proposed Department of "Marijuana License and Controls" are of the idea that they can monitor prohibition as long as they are able to change and adapt according to market demands and supply. To do this there will be a surcharge. There no doubt this agency will introduce a regimented treatment that will be administered like methadone insurance paid.

If anyone is of the idea this is legalization I am sorry to say Disney is not real either. There is a long way to go with so many with their hands out saying give me a little off that it will be better.

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 08/11/2016 at 8:04 AM

Re: “The Real Madness

Excellent article. Regarding the two theories as to how MJ became illegal: both are true and one does not preclude the other. Thanks for the historical perspective and for mentioning Hari's excellent book: Chasing The Scream. It is a well documented, global and comprehensive book - a really good read as well - on the so-called war on drugs, not just MJ.

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Posted by Dave Gallagher on 08/11/2016 at 7:48 AM

Re: “Spice is Not So Nice

This is a classic false equivalency argument, e.g., legalizing real marijuana will make people stop buying synthetic marijuana.

As long as there are people willing to use this or any other substance to get “high” and they are willing to pay any price, or break any law if it comes to that, there will be people ready to meet the demand.

Meanwhile, we are left footing the bill for medical expenses, the criminal justice system, counseling and support services, and on and on and on….

Prohibition isn’t the answer. Taxing isn’t the answer either, unless you are OK with that whole making money off of other people’s misery thing. Perhaps a warning label; after all, we’re big on warning labels in America:

WARNING – Consumption and use of this substance is harmful to your health and will lead to death – seriously – you will die because no one will waste taxpayer resources to resuscitate you and if you are found unconscious in public, you will be placed in the nearest dumpster for immediate disposal at an approved landfill site.

P.S. – Using this argument might just backfire and get people thinking about all the forms of substance abuse. I would suggest looking at what the other states have done to legalize marijuana AND make sure you tie legalizing it to defunding public education. Then it is sure to pass in Arizona – the governor will see to it.

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Posted by sgsmith on 08/08/2016 at 10:38 AM

Re: “Spice is Not So Nice

As this story attempts to blend spice into the marijuana market. We can blend alcohol, tobacco, into this too. As the other states the story mentioned all took the Marijuana market and put it under existing government agencies.

I would understand by the story how many admitted into emergency rooms were minors. It is my understanding by the story recreational Marijuana would then sift down to the adolescents that were admitted for spice which most are. This would kill the spice market plus any other laced smokable intoxicant being sold.

Do you believe this ? Arizona will be the only state that has it's own DEA of sorts.

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 08/04/2016 at 7:16 AM

Re: “This Bud’s for You

Too bad this reviewer didn't try any of their crumble, they do it right 90% of the time. Pick a really dry, crunchy-looking crumble and you can't lose.

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Posted by Ban Carpet Baggers on 07/30/2016 at 7:40 PM

Re: “Marijuana Like Alcohol?

lets ask ourselves one thing all of this monies that is to come from marijuana sales. Where does the money come out of the social fabric of the population ? Will this monies be dispersed back into the economy by market forces, or by gifts given back to the people with heavy administrative costs. This proposed tax windfall is a cancer that will kill the host over time. This takes the very life blood of a free peoples.

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 07/21/2016 at 3:35 PM

Re: “Marijuana Like Alcohol?

I dont know about you people I can still get a quarter pound for $200.00. Soon Mexico will stop most all bulk productions they will favor condensing their product down to oils and concentrates. We can thank the marketeers for this revelation and market expansion.

Thank You, Arizona Dispensary Association aka; ADA. This is just another vehicle that the medical needs person has to pay for Make a market to exploit underreporting and expansion. Slap another layer of prohibition. Get all the rejects that could not make it in the Colorado/California market's to come here. These charlatans want to get their foot in the door, then slam it closed on the long time citizens here. Vote for real change not these snake oil charlatans check out. SAFER AZ the only real freedom from persecution.

It make one wonder does it not. With the years of societal rejection and persecution if caught you had a felony and punished for life. Sort of a chattel that had to be paid from your labor daily to those allowed to profit in the market.>>> This was back up by the SCOTUS with the DRED SCOTT decision. So we went to war over one state free one state slave. To appease the masses after the bloodiest war in american history we allowed states to regulate who could vote plant grow crops sell those crops and what part of the economy they were allowed to use. This was called the Russell Crowe.

If anybody can explain how this CRLMA does not follow the same fallacious format dynamic that has been tried in the past, please help me understand. We now have a prohibition this will in no way repeal it it still leaves 13-3405 on the books. If Paradise Valley passes and ordinance. Your ex invites over to discuss old times gets you on the balcony says lights up then calls the cops. WHALA!!! Montgomery has another felony conviction. If parental rights hang in the balance you just lost that because of Marijuana market protections.

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 07/21/2016 at 3:25 PM

Re: “Marijuana Like Alcohol?

Ben James Yokel; I must say that is quite a pant load.
please give link to verify your statements

Truth is this will promote the illegal market. This is a peer reviewed study on Alcohol and Marijuana when both became managed markets. Both have exploded in the black market dues to the cost of regulatory fees attached. Here is the link done over 80 years of study. This is done by Washington State Univ.
https://aclu-wa.org/library_files/MarijuanaProhibition.pdf

Also a study done by the Colorado department of revenue. In this study they looked at the matrix of the people that used marijuana. in this study. With so many different parts of the plant now being processed the stems,sugar leaves, broad leaves, used to make extracts for oils and edibles. Which results in under reporting of flower and concentrates. The study narrowed the market down to 650,000 of the users that consumed almost 85% of all the available Marijuana available. Here is the study for those that can extrapolate talk to you friends kids relatives. https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/sites/default/files/Market%20Size%20and%20Demand%20Study,%20July%209,%202014%5B1%5D.pdf

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 07/21/2016 at 2:51 PM

Re: “Marijuana Like Alcohol?

In 1937, the Nazi Forces in America criminalized marijuana as part of the "Final Solution" policy to justify the unconstitutional arrest and incarceration of African-Americans and Hispanics.

In 2016, WE THE PEOPLE will vote to legalize Marijuana and STOP the Nazi-era fascism and oppression imposed by a few Republican alcoholics.

God bless America, God bless Liberty, Vote for FREEDOM 2016..!

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Posted by Abraham Lincoln on 07/21/2016 at 11:41 AM

Re: “Marijuana Like Alcohol?

Cannabis is a superfood that can produce a euphoric feeling if the consumer desires. It is completely safe and not addictive. Alcohol is very addictive and dangerous.

The system used for alcohol is stupid and causes unnecessary costs and only allows a few people to realize the potential revenue generation available from the market.

Cannabis ought to be legalized, for sure. However, the distribution system ought not emulate alcohol and ought not restrict individuals from choosing to grow their own, and ought not restrict the small businessperson or ma and pa shop from participating in commerce. In addition, any model is not acceptable if the police will continue to have incentive to be concerned about cannabis activity- and have the ability to investigate, raid, arrest and take items of value from citizens due to cannabis involvement.

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Posted by Jamie Lowell on 07/21/2016 at 11:24 AM

Re: “Marijuana Like Alcohol?

An estimated $150,000,000,000 (BILLION) PER YEAR from recreational cannabis sales in America goes directly into the hands of crime cartels and gangs. Legalization will take this fortune away from drug lords and place it into the hands of legitimate responsible business. This plus another $10,000,000,000 (BILLION) is wasted on needless cannabis law enforcement and another $30,000,000,000 (BILLION) lost in potential tax revenue. BILLIONs down the toilet every year due to ridiculous cannabis prohibition laws that make no sense and destroy people's lives daily.

US CDC Figures on numbers of deaths per year in the USA:

* Prescription Drugs: 237,485 + 5,000 traffic fatalities
* Tobacco: 390,323
* Alcohol: 88,013 + 16,000 traffic fatalities
* Cocaine: 4,906
* Heroin: 3,365
* Aspirin: 466
* Acetaminophen (Tylenol): 179
* Marijuana: 0, no fatal toxic overdoses and almost no traffic problems

So, which is safer? Legalize cannabis NOW!!!

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Posted by Ben James Yokel on 07/21/2016 at 7:47 AM

Re: “Marijuana Like Alcohol?

The Rocky Mountain High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area reports cited by Ms Polk are deceptive, dishonest and acknowledge no positive effects from legalization. In reality, the benefits of a legal, regulated market are obvious, abundant and have been an unqualified success. Arizona can join in that success or remain in denial by continuing to favor an uncontrollable black market and making criminals of adults who prefer a safer alternative to alcohol or tobacco and are causing no harm to themselves or others.

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Posted by Don Berry on 07/21/2016 at 5:44 AM

Re: “Marijuana Like Alcohol?

Wow. - The prohibitionists are addicted to criminalizing good citizens who prefer near harmless marijuana over addictive, very harmful alcohol. -- Such ugly bigotry.

Science and widespread experience have shown marijuana has no significant harms. -- Smart employers of the future will prefer their employees consume near harmless marijuana, rather than addictive, very harmful, violence inducing, traffic carnage fueling, hangover-producing alcohol.

End the fraudulent, federal, marijuana prohibition with two clicks!

http://pac.petitions.moveon.org/sign/marij…

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Posted by John Thomas on 07/21/2016 at 3:04 AM

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