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Comment Archives: stories: News & Opinion: Messina

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they probaly have good reason not show them we are spiritually (NOT RELIGIOUS)primitive and corrupt,and out of harmony with our planet ourselves and each other,we are violent,and kill each other daily for what????money,religion,race,land,ect,ect,and our own govt. lies to us about them being here and then when they give us advanced technology it corrupts some to keep it a secret and use it for some dark purpose,and they use it for space weapons to shoot them down.anyhow it is very hard to pick a direction or whose truth to believe.(RELIGION) is not it for you.even though i do not know you i get the feeling you used religion as some sort of refuge.and/or a way to find something else you needed or was lacking in your life.many,many people do.dr. steven greer has a site i believe or he is a part of (et lets talk)he has trained people how to meditate a certain way and they go out in groups in order to make contact.he has even advised the top brass in the pentagon,cia,congress,senators, not turn your back on the friends you have made in the et circle.the only races who know about the spiritual realm,other dimension,ect is are et friends..

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Posted by Wesley Renfroe on 03/12/2013 at 11:47 AM

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Oh I wish I knew what to believe!!!
And who knows the actual truth? I have seen UFOs close up and had a couple of weird experiences but have NO idea what or who these thingys are. Something/someone messing with our minds for their enjoyment? Too cowardly to show themselves openly so to Hell with them, (literally?) and leave me alone!!!!!!

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Posted by Iceni on 03/12/2013 at 11:00 AM

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"The beings don't have souls. I think they are trying to get our souls either by genetic manipulation or get them at the time of death when people are transitioning."

I find this statement interesting, though I don't think it is possible for entities to "snatch" your soul. I don't really believe the demon concept, but it made me think of the Orion Empire, who have taken a different "spiritual" path - away from positive or negative, one of no emotions (which is far more dangerous).

Posted by Noakk on 03/12/2013 at 7:17 AM

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haaaaa,now you are back on track.i do believe abductions by aliens are real.

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Posted by Wesley Renfroe on 03/12/2013 at 6:44 AM

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How do YOU spell LOONEYTOONS? "I have incontrovertible hard evidence of abduction by space aliens. This rock. They gave me this rock when I was on their flying saucer. I mean, if I hadn't been on their flying saucer, I could not possibly have this rock!"

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Posted by W Corvi on 03/11/2013 at 9:02 PM

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Chock full O Nuts

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Posted by Mr. Peanut on 03/10/2013 at 6:19 PM

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we all follow the path we believe is right for us,but that path is infuenced by many things,are insecurities,fears,and are weaknesses,and much have to keep an open mind okay,but many turn towards religion for the reasons i just mentioned,they are scared of life and want somebody to hold there hand and make all the decisions for them,it is for people who are blind and weak of you know how many off the wall religions there are.when i was younger i noticed that one church would preach a certain part of the bible one way and another church the complete opposite ,now you have all kinds of preachers that want you to believe their truth is the only truth.yes,there is a spiritual world or other dimensions and parallel realms but the truth is that the only race that know fully what they are and truely understands them is the very,very advanced alien races that are here.not only are they advanced technologicaly but spiritualy as well and we need there help in understanding this and much more,so please think on this and do not stray from the true path of learning the real truth from our alien star brothers&sisters.

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Posted by Wesley Renfroe on 03/10/2013 at 11:43 AM

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Thank you, readers for your comments. This is the first interview I've given since I "found religion" and submitted to the love and guidance of Jesus. You may look at or listen to my earlier interviews online, many of which are referenced on my website. I do not claim to have all the answers. I am open minded, but I have made up my mind. That is not a crime. It was certainly a grand adventure, being in the New Age/UFO world for years, but it has come to an end for me. Years ago, during an attack, I called out for Jesus and the attack stopped. You'd think I would have caught on then. MANY other abductees have done the same. We are under-represented in the UFO community. From the vitriole I've received here, I can understand why Christians stay away from UFO conferences. Last year at this time I believed the aliens were here to save us from ourselves. It certainly would have been EASIER for me to have stuck with that view. I only ask that people can respect my decision. It's going to be hard enough for me to make new Catholic friends, given my background. I suggest looking at my site for links and books to further explore the "aliens are demons" theory, which is new to me as well. My book will soon be added to that illustrious list.

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Posted by Camille James Harman on 03/09/2013 at 10:38 PM

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I was not there. I was there last year, Feb. 2012. You are saying I was there last week. I can produce dozens of witnesses in Tucson who have interacted with me over the last two weeks. I challenge you to contact Open Minds, the event organizers, and ask them if I indeed attended in 2013. As a matter of fact, I was registered and then requested a refund, which they gave me! It was a very big decision for me to cancel my registration and stay away from that conference. Prove what you were saying. You are slandering me. I don't know who you saw speaking.

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Posted by Camille James Harman on 03/09/2013 at 3:21 PM

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Camille, I personally saw you (or perhaps your twin? Didn't know you had one...). Several of us saw and listened to whomever it was that looked, sounded, and acted like you. One of your former friends said you'd driven up for the day. Was she seeing a dopple-ganger, as well? Gee, I guess seeing really isn't good for believing, these days. Those awful demons & minions must be very powerful, with an ability to clone.

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Posted by BMetcalfe on 03/09/2013 at 2:51 PM

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This is a response to B. Metcalf. I was not even at the IUFOC last week! Do not slander me. I do not know who was speaking at the IUFOC spewing negativity, but I was at home in Tucson. You are mixing me up with someone else. Thank you, Camille

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Posted by Camille James Harman on 03/09/2013 at 2:17 PM

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wow,that was good and i agree wholeheartedly.most times it is hard for me to put into print what needs to be said but you seem to have no seem to see things as i do so far.(insecurities) as is a persons background like religion,parents,region or country and much more have an effect on a persons beliefs even though most say,oh no not me,i see only the truth.i believe a lot of people can not truely see the truth.only what they want to see and there was a study done in which some would not believe the truth even with scientific proof.if you look at human history as told by todays historians there are many holes in it,as is the bible.just read the lost scrolls,the book of enoch in which he talks about going to the stars in an alien spacecraft and that is just the tip of the iceberg so to speak.and yes i do believe aliens had a part in human development,genes/dna,history,technology,religion.there are things beyond are wildest imaginations and we are just begining to see it.but are held back by powerful people who are power hungry and corrupt and see only there own is sad so many suffer at the hands of others of whom are truly blind to the real truth and not there own one sided belief system..

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Posted by Wesley Renfroe on 03/09/2013 at 1:02 PM

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It's so sad to hear someone as talented and as grounded as Camille used to be, going through what sounds more like a mid-life crisis. I found it even sadder that she chose to rebuff and proudly re-marginalize many of her long-time UFO friends & associates - most of whom have had positive visitations - yet often still suffer ridicule and abuse... (cruel accusations of being mentally ill, along with rejections by Church, family; horrendous divorce proceedings resulting in loss of custody and/or rights of visitation, because Court appointed attorneys & psychiatrists had NOT A CLUE that these women & men were actually telling the truth - a truth our elected leaders in government refuse to legitimize by telling the the rest of the American people what they and other world leaders have known for years.)

At the International UFO Congress last week, Camille spewed her newly-found intolerance for the experiences some of us have been going through for decades, which I found to be insensitive - the wrong place to come voice her now religious-themed beliefs of demons and fallen angels. This makes me wonder if Camille's husband's business and years-long means of a lucrative and successful income for the family, will be her next target.

I fully realize she has the right to believe and voice her opinions; what I question is her seemingly disrespectful choice of where and how to do it in person, in her misguided attempt to be the "saving grace" to all the rest of us. She constantly used the phrase, "Don't you see..." when attempting to convince the rest of us that our own experiences are just the duping of the devil and his minions. No! I don't see! And I'm grieved that she has forsaken camaraderie, respect, and diplomacy to preach intolerance and enslavement by the Catholic Faith to validate her points. Those who choose to believe they're right and everyone else is wrong, speak to their own insecurities, not their strengths.

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Posted by BMetcalfe on 03/09/2013 at 11:54 AM

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there is no name,so,to the person who comented above me i agree to everything you say,there is a movie/documentary coming out by dr. steven greer called sirius about the alien coverup by are govt. i hear it has many powerful people scared.he also has a site that camille mite want to check out called et lets talk. this site is has hundreds of people world wide who go out in groups to meditate and to contact these aliens.dr. steven greer has trained most of these people on how to do this.not only that but he has advised all the top people in the pentagon and the cia,congress,senators,ect,ect about this,dimensional phasing and how they do this using their minds.this is serious,just the other day on tv was a regular guy who was operating a remote controled helicopter,lights and more with harness put over his head.scientists,military are now expermenting with using the mind to inneract with jets and computer,bionic limbs and such.hey just over a hundred years ago we were riding horse and buggy and this would be witchcraft,imagine a race thousands of years another hundred years the human race will look back and laugh at itself.

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Posted by Wesley Renfroe on 03/09/2013 at 9:14 AM

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It sounds as though she's having a crisis of faith, to me... faith being what she knows happened, up against her disappointment of never having been able to re-establish contact and have her questions answered; I think she's turning her experience into something she can quantify and hate, out of frustration. None of us ever get all the answers. However, most of us do not vilify the God we're spoon-fed straight out of the womb, just because we can't get a personal audience. IMHO, she's been duped by the many Dr. Jacobses who want us to fear the things we don't understand which go against the Bible. In my many long years of experiences, the only demons that exist are the ones we conjure up - to take the blame for our own human limitations. We need only to look at the ways we drug & tag animals in the wild and then leave them to awaken, wondering WTH happened to understand that these E.T.s (who have helped to to bring the human race into the intelligent people we are today) are constantly monitoring our progression as a species, and perhaps bettering some of us and our offspring for a future on another world - after those of us who love war more than peace, annihilate everybody. Perhaps one day Camille will once again realize the demons are a product of her frustration - not the E.T.s who tend us like the beautiful garden we are, except for a few weeds - fed by pollution of the air, water and soil by the chemical companies we so stupidly support.

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Posted by Bobbi on 03/09/2013 at 1:21 AM

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there are a number of things happening at once which we are just now becoming aware of.yes,there are a number of alien races visiting earth and have been doing so for awhile,there purpose???then there is the unseen world where our spirit seems to go but are just now admitting it or a few are.then,there is an interview with william pawlec in which he states he witnessed a number of times somebody within our govt. making ultra small very advanced computer chips to tract people then years later he seen an the web acase of abduction in which they took out that same chip.this guy also states that they do this using biological robots of alien make.scientists now say it it possible for parallel words,dark matter,other dimensions and much more but are clueless otherwise.we are just infants who think we know is wise to keep an open mind..

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Posted by Wesley Renfroe on 03/08/2013 at 1:55 PM

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I just finished reading a book called "Unholy Communion: The alien abduction phenomenon-where it originates and how it stops" by David Ruffino and Joseph Jordan. I strongly reccomend this book if anyone wants to find out about the this subject. I never even imagined this could happen, but it does.

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Posted by John M on 03/08/2013 at 11:49 AM

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I think, as sighted above, is a great place to start for learning how to resist.

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Posted by Collin Smith on 03/07/2013 at 6:34 PM

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In the chapter, "Mud Shadows," in The Active Side of Infinity, Carlos Castaneda describes these demonic entities and how they operate. Very interesting . . . and believable. The aliens are already here and come from a parallel world. Yes, they are predators, and feed off of our energy. Can they be stopped? Yes. But for that you need to read all of Castaneda, but you can start with The Active Side of Infinity.

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Posted by Billy on 03/07/2013 at 6:31 PM

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Harman's conclusions are the same as mine and many others. These things are not from another planet, the are multi-dimensional entities that come from right here which the Bible refers to demons. That are neither are saviors nor our friends, but seek to manipulate and eternally destroy those who fall under their spell.

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Posted by Collin Smith on 03/07/2013 at 5:43 PM

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