Patrick. Tell me how you get around town. Horseback?
I think we all need to take a step back and actually do some research on vouchers (school choice), tax incentives and the like in education. Seems those places that successfully use school choice also have a very strong central administration, something that is counter to those that advocate in the US for school choice. DeVos among those that need to do some further research. Number 9 overall in education, the Netherlands, uses both religious and public schools to educate their students, but the national government keeps a very close eye on what is going on in the schools. That seems to be the trend in successful school choice - a strong central control. Vouchers are not inherently bad, just the misuse of them for other than educational purposes. A recent article in the Economist has an excellent article on this topic.
Public schools are now run by the unions and political party hacks. take a look around.
They died out because of busing and fossil fuels. Schools are the biggest wasters of moving people to places they have no business going to.
And then they preach environmental stewardship to the students. How hypocritical.
Chuck is correct that public schools run by the parents and community were the most successful of their time. They were also the least successful schools of their time, since all public schools were - and are - run by the parents and the community. It simply depended on the community. And one-room schoolhouses were not abolished. They died out due to attrition.
So true chuckj, I also link the downfall to the rise of the Teachers Union. Timing is strangely coincidental.
There is evidence that public schools run by the parents and community were the most successful of their time. I refer to the one room country schools, sadly abolished decades ago. The IQ tests given draftees for the military in WWII (please note that there is general agreement that IQ tests measure achievement rather than potential) showed as much as a 20 point difference between draftees from the cities and draftees from the farms; those farm kids knew things the city kids didn't. The teachers had little training beyond high school. The parents were often unschooled themselves, even new immigrants. What kept the achievement high was a fixed and measurable curriculum - generally defined by a textbook - and a healthy skepticism of the need for everyone to learn at the same rate of speed. Its virtues remain to be actualized in our urban, overly administered, rigid public schools that, ignoring some exceptions (most of whom - viz. University High School - seem to step outside the box and teach each student rather than each class), are not doing well at all in terms of turning out good citizens who understand our nation.
Hey, good one Mr. 13, sir! Moron, brick, window, arrested. Another brilliant metaphor from the undisputed Champion in the Arena of Ideas.
Tommy can't even get that right. Betsy DeVos is stupid. Spoken like a true compassionate Lefty. This from a moron who couldn't get arrested if you gave him a brick and a police station window to throw it through.
Tom, you don't support values over laws???? And you call yourself a liberal!
Self loathing is destructive. Come up for air.
What a shame, pumpkin. Enjoy your tea party.
I've decided you ain't worth my time. Maybe one day you'll actually make an intelligent point.
"Suck?" And earlier, "ball breaker?" Why, CW honey, what are you trying to tell us? What a naughty, naughty boy it must be to be you.
At least you're beginning to wise up. I notice you have no challenge to any points I made. It must suck to be you.
Brilliantly and cogently argued, Mr. 13 Sir. Once again you've demonstrated that in the Arena of Ideas you have no equal.
Me? A ball breaker? Yeah you got me there. For what it's worth Trump wasn't my first choice. Scott Walker was. What annoys me about Trump is that no one is willing give him a chance. If he blows it I'll be the first to bitch. Let's look at a few of his policies. Cracking on Illegal immigrants. I repeat illegal. Why should someone who snuck into the country be allowed to cut the line. We should have Mexico's immigration laws. Google them. They're a Hell of a lot stricter than ours.
A stronger military. Anybody who thinks our world isn't dangerous is dreaming.
Cutting back on wasteful spending. I'm for that.
Obama give us a list of 7 countries that are hot beds of terrorism. Trump wants a temporary ban on immigrants from those countries until we can figure out how to better vet them. Is that so bad?
Face it, Trump is fighting with Republicans as much as the Dems. I'm firmly convinced if Trump found a cure for cancer, tomorrows headlines would read "Trump puts thousands of oncologists out of work."
Sorry, CW13. That's just one of my biggest current pet peeves. Mr. Trump absolutely won the presidency fair and square, but not in a way that justifies some of the rhetoric I hear from the right. Phrases like "Americans have spoken," "the voice of the people has been heard," and (worst of all) "a majority of voters" are inaccurate. My town recently held a sparsely attended anti-Trump rally. A counter-protesting Trump supporter said exactly this:
I just think its really, really sad that they dont see that the majority of America has come down and said, We are no longer accepting these policies. This isnt working for America. "
No. A majority of Americans who chose to vote agreed with the protesters that man was countering. Americans were given the choice of continuing on a certain course and the majority of voters chose that course (even in spite of a flawed candidate) over the person and policies of Donald Trump.
What's "really, really sad" to me is that people like the man quoted above cannot see the difference.
Plus, "breaking balls" seems to be your thing. I thought you'd be pleased.
Brad, I try to give you the name of a good pizza joint when You go to N.Y.C. You say thanks by breaking my balls.
Like most of the states, maybe. Not "most of the country." I'm not a numbers guy, but if "most of the country" cast votes similar to Pennsylvanians, President Trump would probably have gotten more than 46% of the vote.
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