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Comment Archives: stories: News & Opinion: Medical MJ

Re: “Cannabis Court

Does it seem like a good thing following other states that have legalized.

Going forward in growing, testing, marketing, distribution, licensing, banking, business standards. All have to be written and published as rules of government oversight in this industry. This means limited ability backroom shady deals as proposed by MPP ADA & prop 205

The shift to oversight to the Department of Agriculture in 18 months a year and a half is a good move. It shakes out like this all of these hmm caregiver growers need to up there game water & air filter & testing systems need to be implemented. Larger limits on grow areas the size of the area should not be overseen by the Agriculture Dept just the process.

A group of associated caregiver growers should make up 501-(c)(3) aside from the Hedge Fund, LCC, junk bond, private equity, ADA pundits that now make up the representatives and lobbyist of the Arizona Marijuana industry. A Industry that would like to see those caregiver growers out.
These slick Willy types loan monies to shill fronts like Veterans, Education, Women, with help with design location and such all the while the ownership and debt are held by a few. When all marijuana business are recognized by the federal government with operating deductions and allowed to set aside monies for pensions and retirement and liabilities. There is a windfall just waiting to happen for those investors. We are so lucky they are not sitting in the seat of "Department of Marijuana" shilling out monies extorted.

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Posted by Carpet baggers on 03/23/2018 at 7:50 AM

Re: “Payson Party

He'll ya I wana move to Payson now!

Posted by Chris Almeraz on 03/18/2018 at 4:22 PM

Re: “Maybe it’s Marijuana

In response to the person who said: "It is just stupid for a responsible governmental agency to say replace one addiction with another."
Methadone (an opioid) has been used for 30 years to treat opium addiction. So unless you have a cure or another treatment for opioid addiction, I suggest you rethink your opinion. Certainly it is preferable to take a prescribed, doctor monitored, inexpensive drug as opposed to being addicted to an opioid which is bought on the street with all the behavior that goes with it ie prostitution, breaking and entering, etc. People behave better on the alternative drugs, which are also safer. If you really are interested in why you would use one drug to replace another see online "Hartford Dispensary."

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Posted by Elizabeth on 03/16/2018 at 9:52 PM

Re: “Maybe it’s Marijuana

Devon Walker, & Brian Kelly
I have a simple question how can any positives be gained when kept in a box, box called SCHEDULE ONE.

We can allude to all of the positives, we can say alcohol and opioids are terrible and marijuana is much better safer.

For this to happen legalization is the ticket. As we see the California legalization efforts rolling out. We can look at Colorado and Washington 5 years now in the legalization.
Just what is the focus of these states and the legalization efforts and results?
It is and always will be the the triad called control. the three corners of this are "enforcement, education,director"
So the results of these efforts to legalization is not for public medical concerns as both are talking about but MONEY.
The only education that a governing agency can recommend is a FEDERAL LEGAL ONE. All of the studies and results are completely superfluous to state governments that rely on FEDERAL MEDICAL ASSISTANCE by agreement cant recommend anything on schedule one.
Yea all of these bloggers that are moaning about the inequities of marijuana laws then want to build a house of straw against the wolf. I have an idea starve him out repeal SCHEDULE ONE.

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 03/16/2018 at 8:49 AM

Re: “Maybe it’s Marijuana

:::"SAM's criticism mostly relied on the difference between correlation and causation"

Yet they do not mention the correlation vs causation argument for their own talking points, which often rely on studies and reports that show simple correlations without claiming causation. However SAM routinely implies that these associations demonstrate causation.

The smartest approach to marijuana begins with honest, accurate, balanced information.

Nearly every claim by SAM (Smart Approaches to Marijuana) is disputed or refuted by the scientific community. This makes every monetary claim in their anti-legalization reports groundless for the most part. In their "cost of legalization" reports they do not even attempt to include any data regarding positives of legalization other than predicted tax income. For example, money will be saved from far fewer arrests, prosecutions and incarcerations for sales/possession, yet this data is not factored into their reports.

SAM founders/leaders have strong ties to the addiction treatment industry which will greatly benefit from forced court-related treatment referrals that inevitably occur under prohibition. This is likely part of the reason why they fight legalization.

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Posted by Devon Wallace on 03/16/2018 at 5:36 AM

Re: “Maybe it’s Marijuana

"Marijuana is 114 times safer than drinking alcohol"…

"Marijuana may be even safer than previously thought, researchers say"

"Marijuana may be even safer than previously thought, researchers say New study: We should stop fighting marijuana legalization and focus on alcohol and tobacco instead By Christopher Ingraham February 23

Compared with other recreational drugs including alcohol marijuana may be even safer than previously thought. And researchers may be systematically underestimating risks associated with alcohol use.

Those are the top-line findings of recent research published in the journal Scientific Reports, a subsidiary of Nature. Researchers sought to quantify the risk of death associated with the use of a variety of commonly used substances. They found that at the level of individual use, alcohol was the deadliest substance, followed by heroin and cocaine."…

"The report discovered that marijuana is 114 times less deadly than alcohol. Researchers were able to determine this by comparing the lethal doses with the amount of typical use. Through this approach, marijuana had the lowest mortality risk to users out of all the drugs they studied. In factbecause the numbers were crossed with typical daily usemarijuana is the only drug that tested as "low risk."…

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Posted by Brian Kelly on 03/15/2018 at 11:35 AM

Re: “Maybe it’s Marijuana

Marijuana consumers deserve and demand equal rights and protections under our laws that are currently afforded to the drinkers of far more dangerous and deadly, yet perfectly legal, widely accepted, endlessly advertised and even glorified as an All American pastime, alcohol.

Plain and simple!

Legalize Marijuana Nationwide!

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Posted by Brian Kelly on 03/15/2018 at 11:34 AM

Re: “Maybe it’s Marijuana

This idea that marijuana self administered (taxed) can replace self administered opioid/heroin addiction (non taxed).

Sorry; I am not onboard with that either.

It is just stupid for a responsible governmental agency to say replace one addiction with another.

It seems the author misses the whole point the reason for the addiction might be contemplated as well as genetics. Alcoholism

Marijuana has innumerable qualities for diabetes for nerve impulses far and beyond not yet pondered.

However addiction, therapeutic forms to be developed and existing market providers are in constant battle of righteous indignation of the other.

There can only final determination o this is to REPEAL SCHEDULE ONE! Only then can real quantitative study be done.

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 03/15/2018 at 8:06 AM

Re: “Testing Trials

Another point!
If half a million Arizona residents are figures to use Marijuana what is the reason to get a license? If this amount of the population already has the ability to acquire the product why get it legally (licensed) if only for recreational use? Does this turn a large amount of AZ/MMj license holders into defacto street dealers? I this a alternative nano supply income market for the really economically disenfranchised. ( as tradesmen/service and such)

I do recall a person a knew of limited abilities and understanding. A wonderful scared individual whom lived off a meager trust inheritance to supplement sold joints in coffee shops in the 80's>90's. Then would save his money and shop a ounce and sit around and sell this for pennies. Like in Mexico those street people selling 4 pieces of chicklets meager to unimaginable poverty. So one night local Tucson High punks (gang) followed him home did a home invasion in his 200 SQ foot apt with a toilet sink and no cooling shot/killed his dog robbed him of his saved ounce monies. Has this changed?
Question; Will gangs stop robbing if found not to make this one profitable. Without this market force of legality will values still be worth what the are on both legal and illegal. There is a thought about that somehow Marijuana legalization will curtail Cartel activity. Doubtful there is always expansion of all the time traditions of VICE and Extortion. The very idea that government can license Vice to control it is extortion duh!

IF Marijuana continues to be a social/political endeavor then it will always be in a defensive mode. If one truly believe in a medicinal properties of this plant they would send request to the Federal officials in this state for the removal of schedule one.

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 03/09/2018 at 7:41 AM

Re: “Testing Trials

Nick Meyers; Several points I dont agree on the summation of a political ideology.
1-That a Government regulation from the "Department of Agriculture" as apposed to a" Department of Marijuana License and Controls" is burdensome?

A department that you supported if 205 had passed on the ballot. The same department that in it's proposal encompassed the Department of Agriculture.

So am I to take that the prop 205 was just a ruse to protect the suppliers of Marijuana at the detriment of the patient. Would this department if conceived done innumerable HARM ?

This legislation took away so much of what the legalization proposition was proposing. It will bring Arizona inline with other surrounding states in organizational alignment and controls.

As far as margins are thin yea YAWN. Checks in the mail, I will love you for ever after tonight, dog ate my report. Just think of the windfall they will have when market prices are set. Then moved from schedule one to two ! All assets will be depreciating assets and allow to deductible operating expenses a huge windfall.

So really to lift the burden off of everyone and everything in this is to repeal Schedule One the only real target.

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 03/09/2018 at 4:43 AM

Re: “White Lawmakers on Dope

Mike Weisse; WOW seems like you also ride in the same boat. 2064 is dead and so is about Dr. Friese reelection.
As I stated the amended version came from Leach as is the quote. 02/26/2018 house only voted to revisit not to pass and that was by Leach in the next 14 days we will see. But probably pass OH by the way both 2067/2067 are listed in he Arizona state Legislator As the prime sponsored by Leach. I will post the web site for you to look them up if that helps here it is.
When get to the web site you see the box upper right just type in the bill number only and it will take you right there. I hope this helps.

2067 was watered down to mean What? has not gone to the Senate doubtful it will pass with the amendment another we will see.

Bill 1420 needs to happen and the director needed the legislate to make this happen. I dont think so but happy it did I went by a place had this tier BS going. I ask what made a tier value, he said quality of product. Great and the quality is rated by what? re; Dude it better alright. Went to another place best tested was 20% thc "TOP TIER" in Seattle average is 24% top quality is 30's.

As far as Pamela Hannely this is enough for me to go with. The "ME TOO" rekindling the ERA. OK best of luck they dont resonate in anyway with me. I dont see the commitment with MMJ with so much other on her plate.

Posted by Carpet Baggers on 03/03/2018 at 2:49 PM

Re: “White Lawmakers on Dope

Wow massive inaccuracies and misreporting. You guys should check w sources before making stuff up. 2064's opioid provision didn't come from Leach, it was proposed by Dr. Friese. 2067 was amended, to remove the felony provisions. You didn't even mention SB1420, the testing bill that passed through the Senate 27-3 or any of the work by Tucson legislator, Pam Powers-Hannley.

AND, the state has over 150,000 patients, not 133,000. So much misinformation here, if Nick Meyers hadn't dogged Polk, I would think he was working for her.

Maybe next time you should call someone who actually pays attention before sending out error filled copy:


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Posted by mikelweisser on 03/02/2018 at 9:20 AM

Re: “White Lawmakers on Dope

Well here we go again Nick;
This is the amended version of HB 2067 by Leach the felony is struck from the bill.

"Stipulates that it is considered an act of unprofessional conduct, rather than a Class 6
felony, if a specified health professional intentionally or knowingly makes a false
statement in a written certification submitted to ADHS after making a diagnosis of a
patient's debilitating medical condition."

This is how Comey went from a negligent to extremely careless, or 12 plants to 25 miles. So the verbiage here is it is left up to the medical licensing board. Then to write and enforce what is debilitating and what is not in regards to medical marijuana. They just might come up with some that are tax free some that are not.

The AZDH/MMJ awarded retail outlets according postal zip codes. Was it a wonder that the carnival tent, music, talk to our ND. Then get a prescription and soon you will be one of the select dude. Right On, power to the people, giving it to the man, only way righteous and to the sole brother epic. Bob Marley playing in the background best way to chill on a Sat in the AVE's baby let's score some tye dye!

Then one notices the transient movement of the 18>28 yr old males that make up the majority. They are no longer in the same or moved to other area's and the new growth is predominantly the college zip codes that dont reflect the medical needs intended AMMA. Is it any wonder the patient information is shared and dispensaries are scouting the best they can to open up shop in student areas.

Does it not seem incredulous to the writer to chastise "Republican'" according to his moral orthodoxy then embrace the very movers and shaker republicans that are in the business. The very ones that are loaning private unsecured business loans backed by personal assets.

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 03/01/2018 at 5:14 PM

Re: “A Natural Choice

Having an cannabis experienced RN is treasure for the puzzling dosage world.

Posted by Doris Brochu-Taber on 02/24/2018 at 6:48 PM

Re: “Double Trouble

going in to the house web site looking at the voting on both 2066-2068. It was NEVER CLOSE to a 3/4 majority. The story got that wrong as well as the 10% of education funding.


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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 02/23/2018 at 8:26 AM

Re: “Double Trouble

The most amazing thing about these two bills introduced by ,you guessed it, another repressive, controlling Republican is that once again an uptight, bible-wielding, sycophant of the wealthy wants to ignore Democracy and the will of the people who voted for legalization of marijuana. He's thinks that Democracy should only be allowed incrementally and at the rate prescribed by the Republican controlled legislature. Why was the issue to legalize marijuana even put on a ballot if the Gestapo in Phoenix had no intention of ever allowing it to see the light of day.

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Posted by Beneal Good on 02/22/2018 at 11:23 AM

Re: “Double Trouble

Lets take a look and reflect, prop 203 has generated.
A employer, tax payer and collector, established market, gained public acceptance (marginally)
All of this from the concept that people could help themselves, and helped themselves they did and are doing.
BUT in what ways consuming thats a given, lets look at public entrancement.
I would love to see he Director of the AZDHS/MMj build a bureau inside the Department to handle this oversight with the monies at hand to do this. Work in concert with the State departments Universities AG stay away from lobbyist. Whats left over goes to the general fund,
Not earmarked for anything we dont need the drama let drama stay n the legislative bodies and they will piece it up. We dont need to be exclusive as dolling out monies awarding grants and bullshit like that. We the patient are part of the fabric of Arizona Society too we take from the whole and we will give back to the whole.

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 02/22/2018 at 8:05 AM

Re: “Double Trouble

Republicans; ah yes the villains of all humanity !
When 13 years old siphoning gas out of construction vehicles for my mini bike. Another lighting a cigarette threw the match the siphon hose, it blew up I spent 2 months in a burn ward. A morphine drip and 3 channels was my total social exposure. This story and the outlook at the legislative process, bring back those memories.

First the morphine drip does NOT stop the pain it just makes it so you dont care. Call this SCHEDULE ONE states have allowed a drip call legalized or medical marijuana.

Channel #1 PBS children's before sesame street, then molly's midday followed by art program and on to current events at 13 who cared at that time Discussion with William F Buckley & Gore Vidal. 5 drips for that
Channel #2 started with Hog reports prices of pork bellies stock auctions and farm equipment on over to the Guiding Light, As the World Turns, Days of our lives, and so on and so on. 7 drips for that
Channel #3 so it started with the daily crime report on to the Kennecott Copper daily programming with some Temple guidance programming and prayer. Dripped til it ran out or sleep never enough for me.

Bottom line I played with fire and got burned. All of this became from the burn and could have been prevented.

Today it is simple the fire that cause the burn is SCHEDULE ONE. All of he channels play as Education, Enforcement, Business.

We dont see interviews of or Federal Officials asking for rescheduling, Senators Candidates Congressmen. Why is it everyone talks about whats on TV and forgets the fire can be put out by SCHEDULE ONE. When the democrats had the majority they failed to protect and lead just as the republicans, both had hands out where the fingers could get burned. Stop the fire SCHEDULE ONE.

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 02/22/2018 at 7:28 AM

Re: “Irrational Immolation

WOW what a soap box we have built today.

Shall we get down to the the real truth. AZDHS/mmj does not need a redraft of the prop 203 to mandate that testing be done in the pretense of public health.
The process in which plant materials (exclude smoking) are extracted for public consumption is already on the books. We dont need to reinvent science for that or arbitrate what is FDA practice that are codes and standards. To build a commission for this is just building a bureaucracy that is superfluous from it's concept.

As far as smoking materials that people use, lighting a match as opposed to a butane lighter as apposed to a hemp wick. All of these will yield fantastic amount of carcinogens but the Hemp wick about 10X less ever been told that at a dispensary ? (Reason FDA was excluded from tobacco) Or how about using a water pipe or vaping flower product.

Tobacco already has a list of excluded pesticides lest start their huh? What do ya say is that a start? Do we need a protective commission to arbitrate this? Whom will contest the public, or be it the producer, or does this say if it is not ok'd by the state of Arizona it can't be imported? Are we committed to state within this state producers if another state has higher standards and more comprehensive support for patients?

One of the problems and teaching we must learn from the past is the progress of tobacco from WW1 to thru the first labeling in the 70's to the class action liable suits of the 90's to present day.
First distributed by the Gov. to the troops in the field for calmness. Then the mass productions were built giving us the Dukes, Phillip Morris , American, pinnacles of society to still be held in such regards?

There is only one target for all repeal of schedule one
These subversive BS slick willy junk bond, hedge fund, LCC lobbyists representing the whole of the Arizona Dispensary Association Are NOT YOU FRIEND or ally

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 02/15/2018 at 10:05 AM

Re: “Practical Progress

Here is the pay off grants to themselves BS. This is how the Hoffa got started absolutely no parameters on how or what the grant can be used for a total fleecing. Any patient would be an Idiot to go for this prop 205 and worse.

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Posted by carpet baggers on 02/13/2018 at 1:04 PM

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