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Comment Archives: stories: News & Opinion: The Range: The Tucson Weekly's Daily Dispatch

Re: “Democrat Kathy Hoffman Is Arizona Republicans' Enemy Number One

When I have something to say about policy, I will say it. Usually, I stop when it seems to me there is no policy point that still needs to be made to correct misleading propaganda and policy misrepresentations. Occasionally, I comment on the use of obscenities and insults because they illustrate the entrenched dysfunction in some Southern Arizona political factions which never manage to achieve their aim of using aggression to shut down reasonable disagreement, but only discredit the broader party and lame its effectiveness.

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Posted by Still Civil on 10/23/2019 at 10:41 AM

Re: “Democrat Kathy Hoffman Is Arizona Republicans' Enemy Number One

Not a big surprise that you're still being a worthless sock puppet troll. You stop, then I'll stop. Deal?

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Posted by AZ/DC! on 10/23/2019 at 9:28 AM

Re: “Democrat Kathy Hoffman Is Arizona Republicans' Enemy Number One

Looks like another worthless ad hominem attack from AZ/DC! Guess that intention of doing the commenting thing more civilly didnt last long. Not a big surprise.

In order to be able to vote intelligently, people need to understand policy differences, not refuse to acknowledge them and make broad, inaccurate generalizations about their political opponents. But policy misrepresentation and slander and obscenities aimed at opponents are a pretty large portion of what goes on in these comment streams. Davids discourse has the gloss of civility, but it also uses misrepresentations, overgeneralizations, and villainization of opponents. And when those techniques are used, it provokes anger among those misrepresented and villainized. To let some anger show while stating reasons why misrepresentation is unacceptable is not uncivil. Calling someone names IS uncivil. Try understanding the difference between the two, and giving reasons for policy preferences some time.

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Posted by Civil on 10/23/2019 at 9:25 AM

Re: “Democrat Kathy Hoffman Is Arizona Republicans' Enemy Number One

"A Decent Well Educated Professional Woman"

Or, what most of us see this person for what they truly are: a worthless Troll.

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Posted by AZ/DC! on 10/23/2019 at 8:58 AM

Re: “Democrat Kathy Hoffman Is Arizona Republicans' Enemy Number One

Yeah, "Constant Voter," there are actually substantive policy issues here that directly relate to "the education of little kids in school," like the Navajo kids on the New Mexico border. Some of us think those children and others like them should be able to apply the tax funds they save the state of Arizona when they choose not to attend AZ public schools in other schools, in New Mexico or elsewhere. It's not just about "foul" men who are prejudiced against a "decent, well educated professional woman with direct experience." And I write that as a decent, well-educated professional woman with direct experience teaching in Arizona schools. It would seem that well-educated professionals could honestly acknowledge the substantive policy issues and refrain from disparaging their political opponents as a class, with language like "male masses of political protoplasm."

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Posted by A Decent Well Educated Professional Woman on 10/23/2019 at 8:32 AM

Re: “Claytoon of the Day: Phony Constitution

Yeah cap'n. Falkin' eh!

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Posted by AZ/DC! on 10/23/2019 at 7:53 AM

Re: “Claytoon of the Day: Phony Constitution

captain - what are you doing, up at 1AM agitating the falks?

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Posted by RobertDC on 10/23/2019 at 7:17 AM

Re: “Democrat Kathy Hoffman Is Arizona Republicans' Enemy Number One

When a decent, well educated professional woman with direct experience makes it to a state-level elected office, out comes the loud, foul derisive trolling by "conservative" men. And worse, these male masses of political protoplasm then seek to expand their stupid, vituperative BS to a whole range of issues beyond the education of little kids in school. Kids in school are not just political opponents for insults and loathing.

Vote them out.

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Posted by Constant Voter on 10/23/2019 at 6:21 AM

Re: “Claytoon of the Day: Phony Constitution

Hillary wants to save the democratic party from themselves and run again. Do you want to be saved by hillary? She says super delegates will nominate her on the second ballot.

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Posted by captain arizona on 10/23/2019 at 12:56 AM

Re: “Claytoon of the Day: Phony Constitution

Larry A you're correct and buisnesses would crumble without those things.

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Posted by Randall Williams on 10/22/2019 at 9:14 PM

Re: “Claytoon of the Day: Phony Constitution

Careful Captain. The USC doesn't mention welfare, health care, food stamps or retirement income.

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Posted by Larry A on 10/22/2019 at 6:52 PM

Re: “Claytoon of the Day: Feel The Endorsements

I laugh harder at the comments than the cartoon.

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Posted by smithappens on 10/22/2019 at 5:49 PM

Re: “Claytoon of the Day: Feel The Endorsements

good there is a video of obama he thought secretly telling the russian president that he could be more "flexible" after the 2012 election! does that make obama a russian asset?

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Posted by captain arizona on 10/22/2019 at 1:03 PM

Re: “Claytoon of the Day: Phony Constitution

The second amendment does not mention bullets. When tulsi gabbard becomes president in 2020 or AOC becomes president in 2024 they can declare a national emergency and ban bullets. Bye bye nra!

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Posted by captain arizona on 10/22/2019 at 12:37 PM

Re: “Claytoon of the Day: Feel The Endorsements

good there are pictures of biden, clinton and obama with putin some pictures shaking his hand. does that make them russian assets? you know it doesn't . I could smear hillary clinton if I were like you and others here by saying despite the fact that tulsi gabbard has served two tours in the middle east she still has a lower body count then hillary clinton ;but that is an untrue smear.

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Posted by captain arizona on 10/22/2019 at 12:32 PM

Re: “Claytoon of the Day: Feel The Endorsements

Hey Captain Arizona all you have to do is search Google for "Jill Stein, Michael Flynn and Vladimir Putin together" and a photo of them will appear which was taken before the 2016 elections. Jill Stein was just another tool for Putin the same way that you are. I think you are nothing but another Russian hacker trying to stir up shyt here in the states.

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Posted by Beneal Good on 10/22/2019 at 9:59 AM

Re: “Democrat Kathy Hoffman Is Arizona Republicans' Enemy Number One

I like this as a handle. Perhaps I'll keep it.

David: Too bad this is not a discussion about literary history and theory, which might be enjoyable. As a discussion about American public policy and public institutions of education, it is predictably contentious, divisive, and miserable.

Some of us will have to keep registering protests here and elsewhere when your party tries to usepublic policy and public institutions to disadvantage, subordinate, discipline and correct Roman Catholics and other disparaged minority religious groups. Our Constitution and our public institutions were carefully and deliberately formed to try to prevent the imposition of the values of dangerously self-righteous, morally crusading and judgmental factions (secular or religious) on groups that disagree with them. It is disturbing how thoroughly your party seems to have forgotten that these days. (Or perhaps many members of your party never learned it because it is not being taught accurately in some portions of the public school system? All things considered, that would not be too surprising.)

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Posted by "At least a little alright" - gee, thanks. on 10/22/2019 at 9:50 AM

Re: “Democrat Kathy Hoffman Is Arizona Republicans' Enemy Number One

Donna H:

Huh?!

Okay, I do agree that we can do this commentary thing more civilly. But, the sock puppet that uses a different name with practically every post, isn't civil. I have a thing about that. It pisses me off. I would be a much more civil person if other persons practiced the same thing.

Thanks for your response. DC

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Posted by AZ/DC! on 10/22/2019 at 8:00 AM

Re: “Claytoon of the Day: Feel The Endorsements

I dare Clay Jones to do a cartoon about something other than Trump. Trump is a cartoon. Enough, already.

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Posted by RobertDC on 10/22/2019 at 6:39 AM

Re: “Claytoon of the Day: Quid Pro Uh-Oh

Every time I attempt to read one of Captain Arizona's poorly written rants, peppered with ridiculous terms like "Clintonistas", etc., I picture J. Frank Parnell from Repo Man:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VKzqAefBV…

Let's see, proclaiming to be a long-time leftist activist he supported Russian asset Jill Stein which helped hand our democracy to Trump, now he's supporting alleged Russian asset Tulsi Gabbard, who is the most conservative candidate among those trying to get the Democratic nomination.

Another commenter on another thread speculated "Captain" is a self awarded rank. Perhaps the Kremlin awarded it?

Captain, you're either a fool or a fraud, in your case the two are not mutually exclusive. Oh, and you're busted to Buck Private Arizona. Have a nice evening Bucky.

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Posted by Wileybud on 10/21/2019 at 5:53 PM

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