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Re: “Times They Are A Changin'

The remnants of the Gayatri bookstore still exist. You could go for a cheap A-1 beer and Rays and Reds, which is long gone. Back then the street south of the University was also filled with shops and bars, it was a great environment for a student, cheap housing, cheap food, a good University. Now it's an education machine, overcrowded and expensive and fourth Avenue is finished as we all remember it. The city council was asked to blink and blink they did. All the verbiage about floors, parking, density and more is just word salad. Developers with money make the rules. Time for a beer.

Posted by REALITY CHECK on 05/24/2018 at 2:23 PM

Re: “Times They Are A Changin'

MAGRO I agreed with your first sentence then it was all downhill. When the entirety of your comment is pro density and pro 'cater to those who expect us to demolish our legacy to cater to them' I have a hard time believing you are centrist in this. Public transportation run on clean energy solves much of this and Tucson's existing footprint is alreadly plenty big enough it should have zero impact on sales tax unless all the 4th ave stores get forced out over high rent and nobody can afford the newer model rent inflated prices being passed along to the consumer. Now infrastructure, in fact who will be paying for the already existing growth related infrastructure maintenance if nobody else is constructing off those existing lines? Construction tax for 4th ave projects is temporary and is a greedy cash grab. Oh Wait thats right they are trying to get incentives for this so there goes that income.

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Posted by Fools Rush In on 05/22/2018 at 1:35 PM

Re: “Times They Are A Changin'

@magro - I think the vast majority of us are in favor of increased urban density and see infill development as a great alternative to sprawl. We want that development to be done intelligently and responsibly. What we don't want is to endanger a great ecosystem of local, independent businesses that's flourishing economically and making a difference to people who are looking at visiting or moving to Tucson. Additionally, I personally don't like us trying to carve out exceptions to our existing historic preservation, like what's happening with the Maloney's proposal and and in Armory Park. There are plenty of areas to build in our urban core that don't threaten Tucson's historic and economic treasures. And yes, I'd also expect major parts of the CBA to be about sustainability and walkabilty.

P.S. - if you're interested in helping set the priorities for the CBA, we do have a survey in our Save 4th Ave. Facebook group where you can weigh in. We should also have a link to the survey up next week at Save4th.com *fingers crossed*.

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Posted by Joe A. on 05/19/2018 at 2:30 PM

Re: “Preseason Scrimmage

Do like I do. Ignore her.

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Posted by CW13 on 05/19/2018 at 1:25 PM

Re: “Preseason Scrimmage

"Your comments would be funny if they weren't so pathetic."

You are correct CW13, the comments made by bslap, FD-NA, David P and WTBAB are pathetic.

Congratulations on not always having your head buried in the sand!

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Posted by CW13 fails again! on 05/18/2018 at 10:41 PM

Re: “Preseason Scrimmage

Victoria Steele says she's ready to go. I'll hold the door for her !!

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Posted by CW13 on 05/18/2018 at 3:15 PM

Re: “Preseason Scrimmage

How do these people work with the GOP majority? They cannot attend GOP caucus where all of the bills to pass are approved, none of their bills get hearings, so what are they going to work on with the GOP? A new state lizard? And the shots at Rio Nuevo are fiction, everything is on the web site, they just need to look, no money went to Marriott, RN paid for the parking garage open to the public with a guaranteed revenue stream from the hotel for spaces, and even that was not required in the deal after all, so no RN money. And the money RN gets would go to Phoenix if not kept here by RN, sounds like a great platform for a D from Tucson. Also, remember it was the Democrats who misspent RN money prior to 2010. And to keep sending all Democrats to the Legislature is as good of an idea as electing them to the Sonora legislature, that would be about as good a deal for Tucson, at least we would not have to pay them for their total lack of political clout.

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Posted by WHERE THE BODIES ARE BURIED on 05/18/2018 at 2:38 PM

Re: “Times They Are A Changin'

In regards the Private Property Rights Protection Act, other property owners have right to not have the value of their property deminished by neighbors shoddy construction, high-rise, traffic, noise, noxious odors etc.

The Junction on 9th Street doesnt seem to fit into the neighborhood very well!

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Posted by Raquel Baranow on 05/18/2018 at 10:03 AM

Re: “Times They Are A Changin'

I'm not going to comment about the appropriateness of these developments since its obviously complicated. But we can't stop opposing density every chance we get. We have to find a way to navigate it and compromise with it and find a way to live with it. American suburban lifestyle is unsustainable. Not enough taxes are generated to support maintaining infrastructure for single family homes. People who can't drive or afford a car have to face big time and inconvenience barriers to access groceries, job opportunities etcetera. Cars continually pump pollution into the air. Not just carbon, but particulate matter that increases likelihood of heart disease, cancer and other health problems.

Benefits of Density:

-Less destruction of surrounding desert. Tucson is big enough.

-Denser facilities are more environmentally efficient and use less water

-Denser building generate more sales tax and property tax which supports local schools

-Infrastructure around denser buildings is much more sustainable compared to supplying suburbs

-Density takes cars off the road and encourages walkability and biking

-More housing meets increased demand which bends the growth curve of rents down.

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Posted by magro on 05/18/2018 at 9:59 AM

Re: “Preseason Scrimmage

Mhazzard, you shot yourself in the old proverbial foot when you praised Obama for policies that kept us safe and created jobs. (List them all) Because HRC had mirrored his platform and rather than winning she opted to collude with Russia.

Try to expand your thought process. It's making you look like a pessimist.

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Posted by David P on 05/18/2018 at 9:58 AM

Re: “Preseason Scrimmage

Your comments would be funny if they weren't so pathetic.

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Posted by CW13 on 05/18/2018 at 9:09 AM

Re: “Preseason Scrimmage

Repubs want to destroy Tucson Aquifer with Rosemont mine
Give as much money they can to filthy rich
Give guns to people who are insane
Start another Iraq war
Let crops waste away in the fields because of lack of workers
Let Russia run the US
Halt Obama policies that kept us safe and created jobs
Take away our rights
Let police fire at will without any consequences
Destroy our environment


Road to hell is paved with republicans...

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Posted by mhazzard on 05/18/2018 at 2:44 AM

Re: “Times They Are A Changin'

Height creates a domino effect in all neighborhoods, and increases property values dramatically. You start with one 4 -7 story building and pretty soon, because developers can make so much money off that model (vs an itsy bitsy one or 2 story vintage building) the whole neighborhood goes down. Developers are willing to pay high for parcels, and will want to accumulate enough parcels to not only build high, but to provide plenty of parking, which leads to consecutive tear-downs of single, or 2 story, buildings. In Phoenix, where I live, one need only look at what is happening in the Roosevelt Row district to see where one project of height ultimately leads; the street is now lined with a sheer wall of 5 -7 story loft and condo buildings (although that neighborhood has the underlying zoning of "highrise"). But whether you tear down existing buildings for a two story project, a 6 story project, or a 20 story project, you have still lost the small scale, pedestrian friendly, original infrastructure - often times historic or at the very least, vintage.

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Posted by Beatrice Moore on 05/17/2018 at 10:51 PM

Re: “Preseason Scrimmage

Exactly. I was thinking of their platform...

Let's see I will
Raise Taxes
Take Guns
Legalize all illegals
Destroy jobs
Give Iran more Nuclear Capability
Send the hostages back to North Korea.
Punish any of the rich that are left
Lie about working with Russia and blame it on Trump
Expand efforts to take away more rights
Lay off law enforcement

That ought to just about do. This ain't your fathers democratic party.

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Posted by Former Democrat-Never Again on 05/17/2018 at 10:18 AM

Re: “Times They Are A Changin'

Hey there, guy in the photo here. First off, good job by Danyelle talking to so many of the involved parties. Second, I feel like that "Private Property Rights Protection Act" was passed with the big scare of eminent domain looming, and it frightened Arizona voters in to voting for it. I'd love to see either amendment by the AZ Legislature or a ballot initiative to focus the language of the law on eminent domain and not prevent all downzoning. Currently every Arizona municipality is hamstrung, from a zoning perspective, by this AZ law. If even for an street like 4th Ave., where there's currently nothing taller than that tiki head, can't be appropriately zoned to prevent a 75 foot tall building right on the street, we have a problem. Third: get involved - www.Save4th.com

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Posted by Joe A. on 05/17/2018 at 10:04 AM

Re: “Times They Are A Changin'

Tucson is a city that doesnt require development into a central area. We can have growth without pulverizing 4th Ave. I grew up on the north side but always cherished my visits to 4th. The overwhelming concentration of power in the hands of the wealthy will absolutely unravel Tucsons downtown character as soon as it becomes hip for elites to buy their third condo there, displacing year round residents. Or where restauranteurs think its a great place to open another local-looking-foreign-invested location into a growth market. If we want to stop this in Tucson, we have to accept that uneven wealth distribution anywhere hits us at home too.

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Posted by Sean Ongley on 05/17/2018 at 6:58 AM

Re: “Preseason Scrimmage

More illegal immigration. More low wages. More welfare. The modern Democratic party.

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Posted by bslap on 05/17/2018 at 6:13 AM

Re: “Koz and Effect

to commentor Russ: A three word comment from you, better than nothing I suppose-- probably not-- thanks for your input anyway. Please observe how councilman Kozachik can write complete sentences and clearly describe how he feels about issues whether you agree with him or not. To commentor sgsmith: In reference to the F35 and its purported "state of the art" fighting capabilities-- Have you read anything about the F35 It's a flying wheelbarrow with a flat tire and it's going to cost tens of billions of dollars to maintain over the next few decades. Plus it is a painfully loud airplane. Is that what you want in your city really?

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Posted by John Tally on 05/16/2018 at 5:01 PM

Re: “Koz and Effect

Ask Koz how he is sending to the Police and Fire pension fund this year. Is it ethical?

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Posted by Taxpayer Bailout Again on 05/13/2018 at 6:08 AM

Re: “Koz and Effect

Glad to see Steve's thoughts on the F-35. When they brought the F-35 here to Tucson in late Feb. early March, they were horrendously noisy when they flew overhead - and we live miles from the base. We hear the A-10's regularly over our house and they are noisy, but the F-35 was at another level. So loud it seemed to me they would pose a health threat to humans and their pets. Definitely do not think F-35's belong operating in a populated area like Tucson.

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Posted by Augsburg on 05/11/2018 at 3:49 PM

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