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Re: “Hell Yes on Prop 463!

Charles Smith - no contractor would bid with a warranty requirement like that. If they did there would be so many contingencies and exceptions as to make the contractor blameless.

AVL- I realize you are super proud of your math skills. The issue is that failed roads receive a different treatment than poor. Which means that the total number of roads that can be treated by the bond is less than the 70% of poor/failed. Compare that number versus the 560 miles and you will find that a good portion of the failed roads will be fixed (plus you will reduce the number of poor/failed roads overall-that's how math works). The reason you will need another bond is to pave all the roads that failed while you were paving the currently failed roads. Regardless of where the money comes from, you cannot fix everything all at once.

Libertarian - ask yourself why we have a republic and not a true democracy and that is the same reason you don't let the people decide what roads get fixed. Hopefully an objective method will be used and there will be a minimum of political direction-because that is the whole problem.

12 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by The Duderino on 09/22/2018 at 7:23 PM

Re: “Hell Yes on Prop 463!

Wow! 47 "dislikes" when I posted the link to the actual proposition and Huckelberry's memo so people could see for themselves that 1) there will be another bond vote in 5 years; 2) there will be another $1.5 million needed for maintenance; and 3) taxes will, in fact, go up as projected valuations increase. So: did you read the proposition and you dislike it? Or do you dislike that I made it available so people could think for themselves?

2 likes, 13 dislikes
Posted by AVL on 09/22/2018 at 5:48 PM

Re: “Hell Yes on Prop 463!

What's really "tearing down this place we call home" is the consumption of fossil fuels. I would vote yes on a proposition to fund more electric streetcars (especially on Broadway and Speedway), all-electric buses, solar nev's and zev's and charging stations for them, more bicycle lanes and making the grid completely solar-powered. It is the 21st century and we are losing our life-support system, yet we are still cruising around in cars powered with 19th century fuels. I'll ride with the mass transit.

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Posted by Barbara Kausen on 09/22/2018 at 2:19 PM

Re: “Hell Yes on Prop 463!

Complete sophistry!

We have had no less than 3 "temporary" sales tax increases since 2008. We were told the first one was temporary only to find out it was permanent. The city and county tell us its temporary to assuage voter to support the sales tax increase.

Tucson has a history of lying to the voters when it comes to road repairs. They repeatedly over the last 30 years have used road funds for their pet projects which have nothing to do with roads.

In one city election some 20+ years ago, the whole entire city council was replaced because of the bait and switch lies. Voters have had enough then as we do now.

I have often wondered why, despite the massive increases in taxes we still have the worst roads ever. I have been looking for financial data from other comparable municipalities as to their use of road repair funds as I suspect there is massive fraud and corruption, and perhaps outright theft of the funds here locally.

There are many schemes known to do this. One way would be to grossly inflate the repair bills only to receive back door payoffs from the contractors for the contracts.

Our roads have been an ongoing problem for decades. I have had comments from out of town visitors why our roads are such a mess. Phoenix by contrast, has excellent roads which are routinely maintained.

Although not a part of this discussion but related, Tucson has been consistently controlled by the Dems for a very long time. Pima County has a national reputation for massive voter and election fraud. The county outright rejected a ruling from the State Supreme Court to have our elections forensically examined and nothing has been done since.

2 likes, 13 dislikes
Posted by Sovereign Individual on 09/22/2018 at 10:57 AM

Re: “Hell Yes on Prop 463!

Yes, fix the existing roads, but as long as we support urban sprawl, and car-scaled infrastructure for it, we will build more roads than we can maintain. It's unsustainable. Look at all the new developments south of I-10 and out in Vail. Massive, expensive infrastructure extends hundreds of miles with no tax base to pay for its maintenance.

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Posted by bslap on 09/22/2018 at 9:33 AM

Re: “Hell Yes on Prop 463!

I would consider voting yes if the county had a mechanism for letting the residents decide which roads get fixed. But I have no confidence in our county to use the funds responsibly.
I would rather not add to county debt, instead pay it down. A county without debt and in good fiscal standing doesnt need federal funds, and can give the middle finger to presidents who want to infringe on our rights by threatening to take away federal money. We dont need your money!

39 likes, 3 dislikes
Posted by Token Libertarian on 09/21/2018 at 11:13 AM

Re: “Hell Yes on Prop 463!

Yes we need the roads repaired and maintained. BUT, we need transparency and a good plan with clear projects and sequencing. To just dump money into a swamp usually means just more gators.

24 likes, 2 dislikes
Posted by KenWeene on 09/21/2018 at 9:22 AM

Re: “Hell Yes on Prop 463!

To this day, I have not met anyone who voted for the Regional Transportation Authority (RTA), and for the record, it started off with a scandal that has never been resolved.

http://tucsoncitizen.com/morgue/2007/12/06…

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Posted by sgsmith on 09/21/2018 at 3:34 AM

Re: “Hell Yes on Prop 463!

Nope! No sense giving idiots more money.

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Posted by PaulAZ on 09/20/2018 at 6:47 PM

Re: “Hell Yes on Prop 463!

'Dats how socialism works DAZ. We elect them to pick the winners and losers rather than a level playing field and equal opportunity.

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Posted by Fletch Parker on 09/20/2018 at 3:05 PM

Re: “Hell Yes on Prop 463!

When will our county neighborhood roads be repaired? They are made up of pothole- patch- bump- crack - a dirt road might be better lol. I think mine may be scheduled for 2025....But hey, let's widen Broadway, the road to now where and tear down a local treasure Mexican food Restaurant-Lerua's (and give them pennies for their building and land) but yuppie hangouts and give them a "commuter train" to play with. Tucson is really starting
to suck.

10 likes, 6 dislikes
Posted by DAZ on 09/20/2018 at 12:19 PM

Re: “Hell Yes on Prop 463!

Recent road improvements this Summer has been nothing short of amazing. In a few weeks time, Swan, Craycroft, Sunrise and parts of hacienda del Sol ands Pontatoc have all been resealed/ paved. This process costs less than new paving but works well and its quick and efficient. I am impressed. I don't know if they are done or more to come. But it was done in the Summer with minimal disruption to traffic considering the extent of the repairs. So I vote to give them the money to continue.

Also, the last part of this article talks about $430 billion in repairs. Shouldn't that be $430 million?

66 likes, 6 dislikes
Posted by rogerxcohn on 09/20/2018 at 11:10 AM

Re: “Hell Yes on Prop 463!

Hey, She'sGottaGo, I'm sorry to confuse you with the facts, but read Charles Huckelberry's words for yourself, or else persist in your own delusions:

http://webcms.pima.gov/UserFiles/Servers/S…

9 likes, 60 dislikes
Posted by AVL on 09/20/2018 at 9:34 AM

Re: “Hell Yes on Prop 463!

Thank you N&, our local leaders have all but guaranteed a no vote on any bond elections because of the level of dishonesty and conversion. They had the money to fix them and chose to spend it elsewhere. Try telling that to your mortgage company. Your house would be taken. Take the power away from these people.

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Posted by Debbie V Altana on 09/20/2018 at 9:20 AM

Re: “Hell Yes on Prop 463!

Which roads would be repaired, which would be rebuilt? There are NO specifics (as usual) and NO guarantees that the funding will stay on road improvements.

(Sorry, bikers, we don't need to pass ROAD repairs, only to see funds diverted to more work on the Loop. If you want more bike paths, put up a proposition for that work).

The County cannot be trusted to perform repairs to the roads. More than 20 years of history proves that.

Vote NO on Proposition 463.

17 likes, 17 dislikes
Posted by n7iqv on 09/20/2018 at 8:52 AM

Re: “Hell Yes on Prop 463!

So nice to see #LyingAlly 's flying monkey boy pop up.
Delusional as ever, but good job repeating your Mistress' mantra!

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Posted by She'sGottaGo on 09/20/2018 at 7:58 AM

Re: “Hell Yes on Prop 463!

I think we need to add something to the road repair packages and contracts that the City and County issue. Rather than go with the lowest cost contractor, give a certain percentage of the total bid package to those contractors that will Guarantee the road surface for a 12 to 15 year period. Currently, Contracts give credit to Minority Owned Businesses, Women Owned Businesses, Certified Small Businesses, now may be the time to add Businesses that guarantee their work. Then we don't get work like the repaving of Miracle Mile and Oracle that has already deteriorated to where it needs a complete redo.

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Posted by Charles Smith on 09/20/2018 at 7:24 AM

Re: “Hell Yes on Prop 463!

Smoke and mirrors: The bond money will not cover the anticipated $1.5 million in increased maintenance costs in just the first year, and the ten year plan actually only covers the first five years, after which another bond election will be necessary.

The County Administrator has been touting that there will be no increase in property taxes with this bond measure. That is not true. First, taxes are currently scheduled to go down as existing bonds are paid off. That wont happen and the secondary property tax rate will remain the same. But: projected growth in the secondary property tax base increased assessments will raise the rate from between 3.21 percent and 4.68 percent yearly (see Section 5.2). So: no tax increase but you pay higher taxes. Smoke and mirrors.

Section 4.2.1 of the ordinance states the overall goal for road repairs is to fully repair and preserve all 1891 miles of paved County maintained roadways within ten yearsrepairing the worst of these roads within five yearsApproximately 70 percent of the road miles are in failed or poor condition.

Section 4.2.4 states, however, that by implementing the County Road Repair Plan in the first five years, it is anticipated that the Countys share of bond proceeds will be sufficient to repair or reconstruct 560 miles of the worst roads.

Do the math: 70 percent of 1891 miles is 1324 miles, and 560 miles is just 42 percent of that, less than half, of the roads in failed or poor conditions. And the math, along with common sense, says that another bond election in five years of equal money still wont get the job done.

15 likes, 15 dislikes
Posted by AVL on 09/20/2018 at 6:22 AM

Re: “Death Sentence

It's my opinion that Arizona Department of Corrections undergoes a deep investigation by another agency besides themselves. You have nobody that is impartial investigating DOC. I certainly hope DOC is held responsible for this tragic, unnecessary, violent murder!!

1 like, 0 dislikes
Posted by Melissa Morganson on 08/17/2018 at 2:25 PM

Re: “Never Going Back to Tucson

Another litany of privileged white guilt by what seems to be another failed musician

2 likes, 13 dislikes
Posted by laddderflappy on 08/16/2018 at 12:01 PM

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