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Re: “Trouble in Republican City Over Voucher Expansion?

The first mission of Republicans was to cut public education funding to a level (last in then nation) where most districts would struggle to retain quality educators. This in turn would make it incredibly difficult for public schools to succeed. Second, drastically cut their capital budget so schools would fall in disrepair in areas where home owners couldn't afford to bond to maintain or expand their schools. Third, point to the failing schools you created as an excuse to pass school vouchers as an alternative to public schools.

Reality, Republicans long ago became the party of the rich whose only goal was to make life even easier on the rich as the expense of the middle and lower classes. ESAs are simply an education subsidy for a group of people who do not need it and it once again comes at the expense of the middle and lower class. Republicans like the Koch brothers are doing everything they can to squash the American Dream and they are winning at the expense of our nation.

Education has been the way up and out of poverty since the inception of our nation. Now they want to take that away.

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Posted by Republicans killed the American Dream on 04/24/2017 at 1:58 PM

Re: “Statewide Voucher Initiatives Has Been Voted Down Everywhere, Every Time

If that were true they would be building ovens instead of walls. Don't look now but France has tired of the atrocities of open border politicians. This could be the end of the old political parties. The first ones to frame the issues that appeal to thinking voters will control the majority by vote.

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Posted by Workin it on 04/24/2017 at 11:50 AM

Re: “Trouble in Republican City Over Voucher Expansion?

I was thinking @ this the other day. What really made America the greatest nation in history?

FREE PUBLIC EDUCATION FOR ALL.

No ifs, ands, or buts. It's that simple to me. A literate+numerate populace is the single greatest advance in the history of our species. Forget fire.

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Posted by desertrat on 04/24/2017 at 11:39 AM

Re: “Zona Politics Tonight: Councilman Steve Kozachik and Metro Chamber Prez Mike Varney

This conservative says no. It does not make sense. By the way what was our road money wasted on? Bigger salaries and bigger pensions?

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Posted by Common Sense Solutions Please on 04/24/2017 at 11:37 AM

Re: “Zona Politics Tonight: Councilman Steve Kozachik and Metro Chamber Prez Mike Varney

So we're going to fix our roads on the backs of the working class with sales taxes already near the highest in the country? We're going to buy a bunch of new firetrucks when we could pay Tucson citizens to rebuild the engines and whatever else they need in the ones we have instead of throwing them away? This progressive says NO!!!

15 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by desertrat on 04/24/2017 at 10:03 AM

Re: “Statewide Voucher Initiatives Has Been Voted Down Everywhere, Every Time

This is another perfect example of Republicans using Public Money paying the cost and Private Gain reaping the rewards. I've been practicing my Sieg Heil! and Straight arm salute for whats to come.

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Posted by Beneal Good on 04/24/2017 at 8:28 AM

Re: “Statewide Voucher Initiatives Has Been Voted Down Everywhere, Every Time

Let's not be too certain about what voters will never go for. We thought they would never go for Trump, either. You will never go wrong underestimating the intelligence of an American voter.

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Posted by raythewatchman on 04/24/2017 at 7:43 AM

Re: “Zona Politics Tonight: Councilman Steve Kozachik and Metro Chamber Prez Mike Varney

No on the sales tax, you idiots already burn through money like its your own, not to mention the millions you will loose from the state from your moronic anti gun stance. Stupid does as stupid is and as for the vouchers, I hoped it spells the end of TUSD as an actual school districts. Like the city it also is run by morons.

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Posted by Azpaul on 04/24/2017 at 6:48 AM

Re: “Statewide Voucher Initiatives Has Been Voted Down Everywhere, Every Time

Wow, the majority is willing to abuse the minority. What a prescient observation.

Let's review the history. District education education is not public education. 99% of the public is excluded from district schools.

Bricks and teachers aren't public. Children are the public. Arizona is the only state with a public education system with every school in the state open ro the public.

In almost every other state, it is a crime to allow the public to attend a district school or to allow them to get their public education at a Christiam school.

Here you are defending a bigoted, racist institution to the bitter end.

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 04/24/2017 at 6:04 AM

Re: “The Pima County Fair is Back and You Don't Want to Miss It

DO NOT REPEAT, DO NOT GO TO THE PIMA COUNTY FAIR. We have been stuck in line that is still not moving in a half empty parking lot just trying to leave for an hour now. You probably will experience the same. The restrooms are disgusting people crapping in the urinals and it is a lets get drunk fest here.

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Posted by Azpaul on 04/22/2017 at 11:37 PM

Re: “Trouble in Republican City Over Voucher Expansion?

Turf reactions are everywhere. Only 50% of Republicans support school choice on polling data. But, when they go into the voting booth, they don't trust democrats to make the right decisions.

If your brain is wired to believe that the school is public, that these bricks, these teachers are public, then you have that reaction.

The truth is that the parents and the children are the public and now, close to 100% of the schools in Arizona are open to the public while the public in other states finds 99% of the schools closed to them.

We in Arizona now have a public school system, unlike almost every other state which have district school systems.

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 04/22/2017 at 6:57 PM

Re: “Trouble in Republican City Over Voucher Expansion?

What a surprise. Southern Arizona Democrats "dislike" the hard truth about their public policy preferences and their favored public institutions.

Perhaps they should recognize that if they want people to support their policy preferences and public institutions, they need to do a better job of managing them and communicating honestly with the public about them.

Loudly applauding dysfunction, disparaging legitimate progressive policy goals like integration, and engaging in a systematic program of trying to block the truth about what's actually going on in these institutions from getting to the electorate is not, in the long run, a winning approach. (Or, as Jo Holt once wisely said, "Lying is not a sustainable strategy.") All it will achieve is disenchantment and disengagement among those paying enough attention to see the difference between dishonest propaganda and the realities in the lives of constituents. When you observe entrenched resistance to competent management and honest communication, what else can you conclude but that the constituents being mistreated and underserved need to be given a way to leave?

Yes, I know. You disagree. Many of you think the only thing to do is lie to the public and engage in a no-holds-barred, last ditch street-fight with your political opponents to try to "save" the public district system. You conveniently ignore the fact that you yourselves and your entire filthy network have, over the course of the last few decades, conspired to turn large portions of this system into something impossible to reform, and thus, not worth saving.

Job well done. Just make sure you assign the blame where it actually belongs. Hint: a good, hard look in the mirror is what's called for.

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Posted by "Lying is not a sustainable strategy." on 04/22/2017 at 6:24 PM

Re: “Just Getting Started

Great article. Keep up the good work!!!

Posted by Mariann Bournstein Flaschen on 04/22/2017 at 1:17 PM

Re: “Tucson Salvage

Excellent customer service! Reasonably priced!

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Posted by Saad DQ on 04/22/2017 at 11:16 AM

Re: “Trouble in Republican City Over Voucher Expansion?

If it weren't so sad, it would be quite funny, the way the promoters of an egregiously mismanaged public school district that, though it has lost thousands of students during the last decade, still has more than 40,000 student stuck in it, persist in trying to pitch their transparently shoddy merchandise to the public as "the best kind of education possible!!!"

Meanwhile they scheme to alter public policy to ensure that as few people as possible will have any way of escaping the sick institutions and shockingly poor governance they love to excuse and justify.

Heads up, Dems. If you live in Southern Arizona and have even the smallest degree of awareness of local conditions and events, you recognize that people who want to lock students into a district where the governance has deteriorated to this parody-able level are neither "pro-education" nor "pro-child":
http://tucson.com/news/opinion/column/fitz/fitz-i-m-the-man-for-the-tusd-job/article_f7e6d63d-e83c-5be9-9d40-ea9c55e747cd.html

Let's translate the propagandistic doublespeak in Safier's blog on "Trouble in Republican City": "Democrats hope to profit from squabbles between factions on the other side of the political fence to push their self-interested, political machine-feeding public policy agenda through the legislature. This agenda has nothing to do with expanding access to SOUND education or protecting CHILDREN'S best interests, and everything to do with keeping certain powerful politicians and their networks, which are interwoven with districts like TUSD, happy."

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Posted by Doublespeak Translation on 04/22/2017 at 11:14 AM

Re: “Money and Challengers, Oh My

Several times back in the past (i.e., before the attack) I can remember listening to our Representative Gabrielle Giffords live on local radio, being interviewed and taking calls. Gabrielle took all calls without hesitation and spoke up on a range of issues, even those that were personal to the caller. In a soft voice, Gabrielle spoke with strength and sincerity. With so many people in office today, such courage and common sense have evaporated.

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Posted by Constant Voter on 04/22/2017 at 5:24 AM

Re: “Trouble in Republican City Over Voucher Expansion?

Are there "pro-education, pro-child" Democrats David?

Who exactly would that be? The people who want to lock low-income kids into malfunctioning public schools like those where a rotating cast of outsourced and underpaid subs, not certified teachers, staff the classrooms?

But that doesn't serve either the cause of excellence in education OR the best interests of the children who could be learning more in an alternative setting, e.g. one of the private schools in Tucson where seats go begging for lack of families able to bear the full cost of tuition.

Not surprised that those who profit from charters are up in arms about the ESA legislation. Low quality charters have been able to draw enrollment off of high quality privates because of the state's economic discrimination against private schools. They know they can't compete once the economic discrimination is elimitated.

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Posted by It's voucher supporters who are pro-education and pro-child. on 04/21/2017 at 6:53 PM

Re: “Just Getting Started

Pionic is such a wonderful place! I envision this place becoming a gem of Tucson, and a nationally renowned restaurant. Scott's energy, passion, and love shows in everything Pionic does.
I think restaurants like Piology are fine too, but Pionic is OUR Tucson gem. It is the only restaurant with this concept that is native from Tucson.
Best of luck!

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Posted by Francy Luna Díaz on 04/21/2017 at 5:45 PM

Re: “The Skinny

12 dead in Caracas today from food riots. Socialism failing once again Tucsonans. Please try to pay attention.

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Posted by Victor E on 04/21/2017 at 4:52 PM

Re: “Editor’s Note

At least there's one golden highlight: If I move within the TUSD area, I'll be able to use this voucher program.

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Posted by Not a Rancho Snob on 04/21/2017 at 4:33 PM

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