Deep in the mountains close to the Mexican border, a mysterious place exists where time is altered at random.
A joke? Not according to Ron Quinn.
Quinn first submitted his stories to The Weekly’s former editor, Michael Parnell, in November 2002. Upon his departure in January, Parnell passed them on to current Weekly Editor Jimmy Boegle.
The Weekly staff decided to publish them; after all, they are quite compelling. Plus, Quinn’s got some credibility; a life-long treasure hunter, Ron Quinn’s stories have been appeared in Arizona Highways, Treasure Magazine and Fate.
The Weekly does not know the location of the site Mr. Quinn speaks of, nor could we verify the events mentioned. Therefore, we present his anecdotes as interesting stories–nothing more.
–Irene Messina
This fascinating journey into the unknown began in early 1956 and still remains an unsolved mystery today.
It all began during a two-year adventure into Southern Arizona in search of lost mines and hidden Spanish treasures. High among the rugged terrain bordering Mexico, my brother Chuck and I discovered a location where time itself is altered. This natural freak of nature lies deep within a region seldom visited by modern man.
The reason I’m bringing this tale to light after all this time is because something in the works might effect this interesting place. Tucson Electric Power Company plans on building a 345,000-watt high-voltage transmission line from Tucson to Nogales. The line could come quite close to this site.
When this line becomes active, what, if anything, will this enormous voltage do to this delicate location? Enhance the natural energy already lurking within it, or nothing? Only time will tell.
The following stories all took place around this mysterious location.
Lights in the Sky
This all began after my release from the military. My brother Chuck asked if I’d be interested in taking an extended trip to Arizona to search for several of the legendary lost treasures allegedly hidden during the Spanish occupation. This ignited my adventurous spirit, so plans were made. We saved enough capital, with the help of our parents, for two years. I was 23; Chuck was 26.
We left Tacoma, Wash., on March 20, 1956. Our final destination was Arivaca, Ariz., a small desert hamlet of perhaps 70 residents. This old adobe village was located squarely in the center of the country harboring some of these well-known hidden treasures.
About three weeks into this treasure game, Chuck and I were relaxing at camp one evening. Towards the south, the craggy peaks of the Tumacacori Mountains were silhouetted against the darkening sky.
Our attention was directed toward two large balls of blue-green lights slowly descending behind the mountains several miles away. They were not flares, as no sound of aircraft broke the silence of the night. Both vanished within minutes.
The following night at precisely the same time, 8:05 p.m., the lights appeared once again near the identical location. These also disappeared behind the peaks.
Several days later, Louie Romero, a local cowboy who rode for the Arivaca Ranch, stopped by. Over several weeks, we became friends and learned a great deal of the history about the area from him. While in Arivaca, we heard from the locals that if Louie tells you something, you can bet your life it’s the truth.
During one of his weekly visits, Louie told us many stories centering around the nearby mountains. Several bordered on the paranormal. After describing the odd lights we had seen, he smiled, saying he and others have spotted them since 1939 in the same location. Over the months, we saw them several more times.
Doorway to the Gods
One day, as we were returning to Arivaca, we spotted an old truck parked beside the road with a flat tire. Not having a spare, the gentleman stood beside his vehicle trying to hitch a ride to the nearest service station. We picked him up and soon arrived at the Kinsley Ranch and gas station.
After having the tire repaired, we returned John, an Indian, to his truck where we mounted the tire for him. John couldn’t thank us enough, as not many white men had shown him such kindness.
A month or so later at camp, we spotted a rider approaching–and were surprised to see it was John. He told us he was working temporarily for a local ranch, checking the fence lines.
While talking in general about the surrounding country, Chuck mentioned we were treasure hunting. As a boy, John said he heard many of the tales of lost mission gold and silver. He also believed some of the tales were true, as treasure was found in 1907 near Nogales.
Later, John told us about a mysterious stone archway. Roy told him we came across such a formation south of camp. John’s first words were, “Did you walk through its opening?”
Walt answered, “No. We noticed it while descending a slope, but paid little attention to the oddity.”
John told us around the 1800s, three Indians were hunting and upon returning to their village, discovered a stone archway. Being in a jubilant mood, they began chasing one another through the opening in a playful manner.
Moments later, one jumped through but never emerged from the opposite side. Fearing they had entered some sacred ground of the gods, the remaining two fled the scene. Arriving at the village, they told the medicine man how their friend had vanished before their eyes.
As the story spread, others journeyed to the high plateau to gaze upon the stone structure. Rocks and other items were tossed through, but nothing occurred–until an elderly woman approached. Tossing in a live rabbit, it suddenly vanished. The Indians backed off in fear and spread the story of this “Doorway to the Gods,” as it came to be known.
John himself has been to the site on many occasions. The only time he witnessed anything strange was around 1948. A big storm had blown in, and the sky was filled with dark clouds in all directions. As he rode past the archway, he noticed the sky through its opening was blue–no clouds were visible. Dismounting, he walked cautiously toward the formation and peered through. The mountains on the other side hadn’t changed, but the sky was clear. Looking around the corner of the structure, the sky was once again covered with dark clouds. Fear gripped him and he rode off.
Some believe John was looking into another time period through the portal. We asked John: If the story was indeed true, why hadn’t it been investigated? He replied that only his people knew of the story, as it had never been mentioned outside the tribe. The only reason he told us was because we had shown him kindness while stranded beside the highway.
Curious, we decided to make another trip to the remote site with Roy Purdie and Walter Fisher–two fellow treasure hunters who were camping with us. It’s a rugged climb, and the torturous, craggy mountains play no favorites. Enter their domain, make an error, and you’ll be added to the list of the injured and missing.
This mysterious area is covered with windswept rock formations that dot the landscape. Searching further, we discovered an enormous deposit of geodes. The ground was littered with them. Some had broken open, revealing their crystal-lined interiors.
As we approached the archway, the structure took on a menacing appearance. It stood beside a rocky slope, and was perhaps 7 feet high by 5 feet in width. Its columns measured approximately 15 inches in diameter and were made of andesite.
Chuck jokingly tossed several rocks through, but nothing happened. Next, I placed my arm in. Roy, the superstitious member of our foursome, said I was flirting with danger if the story was true. Knowing his nature towards the unknown, I decided to play a joke. I suddenly yelled, like something was pulling me through. Jumping back, I began laughing as Roy cussed me out. By now, we were all close friends, so no offense was taken.
After several hours we departed this interesting location, carrying a number of geodes. I remember glancing back at this lonely part of the world, wondering if there was truly something within the area that could alter time at random. Was it just the archway itself, or were other unknown natural forces at play?
We would definitely discover the answer–at least to the time-altering question.
Horses From Beyond
It was roundup time on the Arivaca Ranch. That evening, Louie and several others were camping beside the corral just north of the mountains to get an early start the following morning.
As they sat around having coffee and making small talk, Louie noticed how still the night was. Most evenings, one could hear the night sounds of the desert. But this time it was unusually quiet, and the livestock seemed restless.
As they were about to bed down, they suddenly heard the rumbling of approaching horses. As the sound grew closer, one could hear the clattering of hoofs among the rocks accompanied by the whinnying of many horses. As the sound increased, the boys dove for cover, expecting to see a herd of horses stampeding through camp. But as the rumbling reached the opposite side of a nearby canyon, it abruptly ended.
The following morning, they searched, but found no evidence of horses. Louie mentioned wild horses once roamed the country around the turn of the century. Were Louie and the others caught on the outer edge of some time change?
It turns out they were near our mysterious archway.
(Before continuing, I’d like to set forth a theory told to us by a party well-versed in the field of the strange and paranormal: Perhaps an enormous deposit of geodes beneath the surface might be effecting time in some mysterious manner. When all the natural elements –the vibration of the crystals, the electricity in the atmosphere and the magnetic fields in the earth–come together at the precise moment, laws of nature are turned topsy-turvy, and things occur beyond our understanding. It could be like dropping a stone into a pool of calm water–the archway being the stone and the waves expanding outward could be the natural forces. These might reach anywhere from several yards to a mile. Depending upon the activation, everything within this radiating circle could be thrown into a different period of time. When it fades, things return to normal.)
Ghostly Padre
This story was told by a reliable rancher and also took place within the shadows of the puzzling archway. It involves the appearance of a Spanish padre long since dead: a ghost–or perhaps not.
Several hundred years earlier, a Jesuit priest, whose name has long since been forgotten, built a small mission east of Arivaca. The residents gave their most treasured possessions to him for safe-keeping, as they feared robbery. These were hidden somewhere near the church grounds.
One morning, a Mexican woodchopper found the elderly padre dead. After he was put to rest, the villagers suddenly realized he was the only one who knew the location of their valuables. They searched, but nothing was ever found.
Over the years, many cowboys and others have reported seeing a dark-robed figure walking near the site of the old mission, which has long since crumbled back into the dry earth. The description given resembles that of a Spanish padre. One rancher told us quite frankly, “Nobody will ever convince me otherwise. I know what I saw that afternoon. The figure wasn’t any ghost. It walked across a wash disturbing the gravel and casting a long shadow.”
The figure slowly became transparent, shimmered several times then vanished.
Again, was the witness caught in another trick of time produced by the site? Or was he himself back in the 18th century, watching the padre going about his daily rounds? Too bad our rancher didn’t see the mission. That would be hard evidence he wasn’t in his own time.
Spanish Soldiers
Another mind-boggling story involves two cowboys out searching for a sick bull. Both separated and rode off in different directions. One rider paused atop a hill searching the country below with his binoculars. Suddenly, he felt a stone bounce off his hat. Turning, he expected to find his companion had tossed it jokingly, but nobody was there. Another stone hit his arm, but once again nothing was seen.
While scanning the terrain again, he spotted his friend several hundred yards below. In the distance, he saw the bull. Waving, he shouted to his partner signaling to him which direction to go.
While descending the hill, he spotted a group of six riders traveling eastward. They rode in single file and were about half a mile off.
Stopping, he looked through his field glasses–and was amazed at what he saw. His description of the horsemen resembled pictures he had seen of Spanish soldiers with tunics, lances and helmets. He followed their movements until the scene “shimmered” and faded.
Once again, this occurred near the archway’s realm. A column of soldiers traveling east? The only fort in that direction was the presidio located at Tubac during the Spanish occupation.
Indian Revisited
During the mid-1940s, Louie and another ranch hand came upon the skeletal remains of what appeared to be that of an ancient Indian. Beside the body was a rotted bow. The Indian’s clothing was of animal skins, and a leather moccasin clung to one foot. The skull and one leg were missing.
Could this have been the Indian who vanished so long ago? The body was discovered less than a mile south of our strange location. They buried the remains nearby, marking the grave with several large rocks. Louie noted that the body didn’t resemble 200-year-old remains.
Before hearing the above tale, I often wondered what became of the Indian allegedly swallowed by the archway. If the portal was visible from the opposite side, why didn’t he come back through? He might have never noticed a change and, to him, his friends had disappeared. Not finding them, he eventually returned to his village and perhaps also found it missing. Perhaps he was somehow transported forward in time, and for some unknown reason, died on that lonely hillside, only to be found by Louie years later.
The Shimmer
One day, Walt and Roy had their own weird experience near the stone portal. They returned there because Walt wanted to collect some geodes for friends in Tucson.
Looking toward the archway, both saw it appear to shimmer. According to Walt, this lasted several minutes before it slowly faded. During this period, both felt a strange pressure within their ears.
Roy said, “That’s it Walt. I’m outta here.” After gathering a number of geodes, both left with Roy leading the way–rather fast.
During the summer months, temperatures can reach 110 degrees. The heat waves dancing off a flat surface can make objects appear to shimmer while looking through them. But this was mid-January and the temperature was around 60 or so.
Old Roy would never again return to the site, no matter how we tried to persuade him.
Was the shimmering and ear sensation the beginning of some activation that never reached its full potential? Seeing the expression on Roy’s face after he returned to camp–take my word, it happened.
Ghost Camp
A number of individuals have disappeared from the unfriendly rugged hills over the years. Did some make the unfortunate mistake of entering the portal at the wrong time? The following suggests that possibility.
While the four of us were checking out an old silver workings, we came upon a deserted miners camp that Louie had told us about weeks earlier. Everything was left behind–rotted clothing, tools, drill steel, old blankets and cooking utensils. Everything was there to maintain a functional camp. By the looks of several items, I’d say the site was active during the 1930s.
It looked as though somebody just walked away and never returned–or couldn’t. The camp was almost a mile from the bizarre site high above. Did this party fall victim to it, or did he become discouraged with mining and abandon camp? I find this highly unlikely.
We also heard a story about a lone prospector who arrived each October and remained until spring. This continued for several years. One day, he vanished, leaving his horse, wagon and camp behind. It was located near a saddle in the mountains–just north of you know what. A body was never found.
We visited this site and found a deep shaft nearby with numerous open cuts on a hill. Was he prospecting or treasure hunting? It was rumored that some bandit’s loot–two bags of gold coins–was buried within this area.
Stories like this keep people like us searching.
Stones From the Heavens
Another close encounter occurred about 14 months into our treasure game, a game that seemed to be going nowhere.
While in Arivaca picking up needed supplies, we met three other treasure hunters. They were in the area for a month seeking the famous “Lost Treasure of Carreta Canyon” hidden by the fleeing padres from the Tumacacori Mission during the great Pima uprising of 1751.
We invited them to stop by camp and gave them directions. Several weeks later, they arrived and had an interesting story to tell. By chance, while traveling overland, they camped near the mouth of the canyon leading to the strange area. We discovered this when one pointed to their campsite on his map.
While relaxing one evening after a long, tiring search for this elusive treasure, they heard a sound like rain hitting the tent. Stepping outside, they saw the sky was clear. All at once a shower of hundreds of small stones came cascading down around them. Most were the size of a large pea, were reddish brown and resembled hematite, an iron ore.
Picking several up, they noticed they were quite warm to the touch. Their camp wasn’t located near any high cliffs where the stones could have originated. George, a member of the group, jokingly said: “Perhaps we’re camping on some ancient Indian burial ground and the spirits want us to leave.” He had read an article about an incident similar to this occurring on a burial ground somewhere in the Midwest.
By now, one has to admit something quite out of the ordinary encircles this strange site. I won’t definitely say their encounter with the warm stones had anything to do with our odd out-of-time region. Indian spirits or not, something weird occurred while they sat relaxing in their tent.
My Encounter
After our two-year adventure ended without finding buried gold or lost mines, we returned to Washington State for almost a year. We then moved to Arizona, making Tucson our home.
Most of our adult lives have been one long adventure after the other. If Roy and Walt arrived at our door with some wild treasure lead, we’d be off with them the next day. To live such a lifestyle, we all remained single. We were one big happy family of devil-may-care adventurers.
The strange experience I had occurred on Oct. 14, 1973. During one of our two-week adventures, I found myself near the canyon that leads towards that oddball site. Not having been there in almost four years, I decided to pay it a visit. The canyon was just as rugged as ever. After climbing and slipping among the boulders, I finally arrived at the steep hill leading to the site above.
It’s a long, weary climb, so I paused for a breather half way up. I sat on the slope facing north. Too my left (west), the steep hill followed the canyon perhaps a mile, but something was definitely wrong. Below to my left was a canyon–where none had existed. Curious, I made my way down, entering it from the eastside, so I thought.
I soon discovered I was in the same canyon that led toward the hill I had just scaled. I was more than 250 yards back down the canyon on a different slope and now I was facing south–I had mysteriously been transported to the new location. Thinking I was looking west, I was really looking east seeing the canyon I had just hiked.
There was no way on earth I could have reached this other slope while climbing the original hill. Knowing where I was, suddenly I knew why this had happened. Any skepticism I had about this crazy site vanished.
I was apprehensive about continuing and should have departed the area immediately. But curiosity led me on. I made the grueling climb once again, passing the spot where minutes before I had been resting.
I realized that if something within this site caused my teleportation, I might not even be in my own time. What a frightening thought that was. I felt somewhat alarmed over the incident that occurred.
Soon, I arrived at the site and looked around. Everything appeared normal. No shimmering effects, lights or other odd observations were observed. However, I noticed how silent it was–not a breeze, a birdcall, nothing. Looking down, I saw the hairs on my arms standing straight up like being near static electricity. I began feeling uneasy and decided to leave.
It seemed each time we visited this twilight zone, we’d discover another geological oddity, and this time was no different. While descending the hill, I found an outcropping of thunder eggs–a cryo-crystalline variety of quartz found in egg-shaped nodules. We had searched this area before, and I couldn’t understand how we missed seeing them. After gathering several, I continued on.
If what happened was caused by this tricky mysterious region, I didn’t want to perhaps get zapped a second time and wind up God knows where. I was quite relieved when I climbed from the canyon and found my Jeep where I had left it three hours earlier.
Glancing skyward, I spotted a jet passing over. I sure was happy it wasn’t some prehistoric bird. I joke now, but something serious could have occurred while in the presence of that weird, upside-down area.
That evening at camp, I tried to arrive at some satisfactory answer to what may have happened. Some force could have been released from the area, but being well below the site, I didn’t receive its full impact. Anyway, something moved me within a micro second without ever realizing something occurred. This wasn’t my imagination.
I have kept the location secret all these years, as I do not want the area turning into some circus sideshow. Only five living friends of mine know its location. The others–Roy, Walt and Louie–have gone on to that Big Desert in the sky, where all of us will meet again. It is not some UFO landing site or mythical place to communicate with spirits from the beyond, but it is capable of altering time at random.
On my last visit to this wondrous place, I discovered the top portion of the archway had collapsed. All that remains are the two columns. Will this damage interfere with its ability to change time? The following story answers that question.
New Visitors
During 2001, my friend Bill Riley and his wife, Mary, wanted to visit the area after hearing the remarkable stories surrounding it. Both had to promise not to reveal its location to others. After showing them the rugged route on a map, it still took them several attempts to find it.
During their first attempt to reach this forbidden zone, Bill injured his knee but managed to continue. I had to remind them how unfriendly this region can be while prowling its harsh domain.
On their second trip, they missed the right hill. However, they did discover a portion of the geode bed, and were amazed by its expense. That evening, while camping within the canyon, both claimed a slight vibration came from the nearby geodes when placing their hands upon them. Mary later mentioned it was a spooky place and she felt uneasy throughout the night.
The following morning while exploring, Bill discovered a hollow geode large enough to sit in. It’s odd we didn’t find this large geode while exploring, as I’ve been there perhaps 10 times.
Like I’ve mentioned, it’s a real odd place. You see something one time and it’s gone the next. Could these large geodes be the main source that activates the natural energy within the area, or just more wild unfounded speculation?
On their final trip into this never-never land of mystery, Bill and Mary found the correct hill. After an exhausting climb, they arrived at the site. Bill found most of what I told him to search for, but the archway eluded them.
While searching, Bill and Mary spotted what resembled the two columns off in the distance. Upon arriving where they should have been, both columns had vanished. Was this their imagination, or were the strange forces within the area playing with their minds?
After spending the day searching and not witnessing any strange activities except for the vanishing columns, they left arriving at their truck after dark. While preparing to leave and follow their tracks out to the ranch road, Bill glanced toward the canyon. In the sky above the site, a circular transparent donut-shaped glow was seen resembling the Aurora Borealis. From the inside rim, tiny sparkling particles were observed cascading downward. Taking his digita1 camera, Bill took a picture of the odd display before it vanished.
Later, only the black sky and the moon appeared in the photo. Using a magnifying glass something else could be seen, but it was too faint to make out.
Mary refuses to go there anymore.
Fact or Fiction?
What we have out there is a natural phenomena created accidentally by nature. It alters time, and there’s no way to predict when this might occur. The majority of these tricks of time seem to occur during the summer and winter storm season when lots of energy is about. But others happen during the stillness of the night or on sunny days.
Undoubtedly, there will be the skeptics and believers. This is definitely not a hoax or a figment of this writer’s imagination. Such a place exists high on a plateau near the Mexican border. Odd things do occur at random within its mysterious boundaries.
Can this site alter time? I believe so until proven wrong.
Strange activities no doubt still occur near this bewildering location but go unnoticed by human eyes due to its remote proximity to civilization. I’ll no doubt return there again someday.
Will this uncanny mystery ever be solved? Only time will tell. I believe there’s ample evidence to support the claim that something quite unnatural happens at random within this locale.
How does that saying go? Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.
This article appears in May 15-21, 2003.

“Lost” makes total sense after this. This is pure greatness. One of the best stories ever.
James, are you high?
I actually remember this story when it was first published. I loved it. Yeah James. Maybe this inspired “Lost.” Yeah… maybe…
Too bad that the location is a secret. I’d love to go there and take photos and readings. Who knows? Maybe we can discover how it does what it does.
I need to go there, not a want but a need…How do I get in touch with Ron, chuck, Walt, or Roy? Someone please help me, if you’ve got any answers please email me at dvdolvera4@gmail.com thanks.
When was this first published? I’m just curious if it was published before Redmond’s “Celestine Prophecy” started making the rounds or whether the initial stories are lifted from that work. It’s got something for everybody, that’s sure! 🙂 Never mind that the history is really bad that supports his claims!
I am trying to locate the place using GoogleEarth… a wonderful free technology – I love the internet…
Anyway, there are several areas west of OroBlanco which might fit the bill…
within 3 hrs hiking distance from an access rd..
Anyone else have better luck narrowing it down?
@desertwman
That location doesn’t seem to fit what this article speculates. They mention the High voltage power lines that are being built in between Tuscon and Nogales and will cross near the site. To go from Tucson to Nogales by way of Oro Blanco would be very inefficient.
@desertwman
I did a little more googling and found that the proposed power lines are about 2.5 to 3 miles west of highway 19. Jerry Wills stated in his documentary that they were about 12 miles north of the Mexican border. This makes the possible location about 3 miles west of Rio Rico Northwest.
my brother and i have been there several times.we are good friends with the author.very remote wilderness.
way bk in late 20’s or very early 30/s we lived near arivaca on a ranch i think called tres biotes (sp) my father a cowboy/mother home alone/afraid when hearing a group of men on horeback/troubles even then near the border/father came home but could find no sign of horses posted by grammasez
thanks for the story. Let me tell you one of my own. Different place similar event…and no I’m not kidding. I was in college in the late 80s. This would’ve been around 88 or 89. A buddy was an archeology major and he wanted to to go look for pottery sherds. We took I-10 east just past where it crossed the Gila and then took one of the roads across the res to where the cultural center was, perhaps a mile past that (I guess to the west or north) we stopped and got out. Immediately we started gathering sherds. We’d fill our hands and carry them back to the truck (yes, I know we shouldn’t have…we were kids). Anyway on one trip from the desert to the truck, I looked to my left and just past some brush I saw a little clearing. There was a mat of some type a large partially broken pot and a handfull of other pieces laying around. I marked the spot in my head and hurried to the truck and dropped off my load. I went straight back to the spot. When I got there my buddy was walking back and forth looking. The pot, the mat and the other items were gone. Not there. David (my friend) said you saw that pot, right? I said “yeah where is it.” He said it’s not here and then he said they’re messing with us. I asked who and he told me that often when they would go to a site…they would see and hear things that would turn out not to be there. The “they” were the Indian spirits. I don’t know about spirits or time travel, but I’ll tell you…weird stuff happens in the desert. It just does.
im studying archeology and am hoping to major in it and id love to contact anyone who would allow me to tag along on any desert exploration, although im only 19 i get butterflies everytime i hear stories of such wonder so close to home:) i know theres hidden treasure in the mountains, as not all treasures are silver and gold. contact me!
*studying soon
Gentlemen, if you liked this, read some Mark Twain. Fiction is fiction.
“Quinn’s got some credibility; a life-long treasure hunter”
–Irene Messina, May 15, 2003
okey-dokey
I loved this article and after having grown up in Arizona and spending a lot of time in the desert exploring, I don’t doubt it one bit!
The story was fantastic, and filled my imagination. I don’t really care if it’s true or not. The mysteries of arizona is part of the reason I fall in love with the desert every time I look at the mountains and allow myself to dream.
My comments? I totally believe it. My outdoor hiking friends and I found a very similar place. @ Jerry Rose: You were in or near the
Sacaton Mountians, on the reservation. Been there, done that. That place is full of oddities. Like the stone ‘giants’ lying on the desert floor next to each other. (near Sacaton, the town). I am a treasure hunter, prospector, and ‘explorer’ of the Arizona deserts. Did it for 25 years. In an area, north of Apache Junction, near Bulldog Canyon, we went to locate an existing mine from an elderly miner that had passed away. While searching, from the Jeep, I was looking across the canyon from the road, and spotted a set of columns. Thinking they could be mine marker posts. One on each side of a little wash. A tributary from the main canyon. We parked my Jeep on a pullover on the dirt road, and proceeded to head down into the canyon. It was 9-10 am. We hit the bottom of the canyon, and proceeded up the other side toward the columns. To our surprise, there was a small amount of water coming down this tributary, and there was a small waterfall, as a result of the ledge it came over, which was the same ledge the columns were on. We scaled the ledge, instead of going around, to insure we wouldnt lose the location of the columns. Once at the top, it was an awesome view, you could see the down into the canyon. The columns were directly in front of us up maybe about 25 yards. We moved up to them. They were about 7 foot tall rock cairns, about 15 yards across from each other, one on each side of the ledge at the top of the waterfall, with a base of about 3 feet diameter, rising to a point. Definately man made. Very old however, because the lichen had pretty much covered it. One thing to point out, as we approached, there was a weird humming sound, and the air seemed to be energized. This was a little weird, but didnt deter us. (I had seen all kinds of ‘weird’ in the Suprstition Mountians before this.) As we followed the small creek up through the pillars. Our ears got the ‘pressure’ feeling. Now, the fun begins. There we were, only 20 yards past the columns, static electricity every where, and only 40-45 yards up from the edge of the ledge. I turned around, and to my surprise, my Jeep was gone! I raised an alarm. My friends took notice. Not only was the Jeep gone, there was no road in site, that should have been visible for miles, because it wound its waydown the canyon. Nor was there the high tension power lines that run down the west side of Bull Dog Canyon! In fact, looking southward, the microwave tower on the southern ridge had also vanished. The mountians all looked the same, minus any development done by man. The sky looked a little odd, like the color wasnt right. We all agreed that the mine could wait, because we were curious of the location of our ride out of the mountians. We traveled back down the small tributary, back through the columns, down the to the bottom, where we found metates, numerous amounts of them. As if this was a grinding location for the indians of the past. We climbed back up the canyon wall toward the Jeep, and arriving at the top, were stunned by the fact, it was still there, along with the road, power lines, and microwave tower. The only odd thing, it seemed later in the day then our watches said. Now, after arriving at the first friends place, we got out to have our usual after hike b-b-q. When entering his home, and seeing the clock, we were shocked!!! Our watches, all of our watches, said around 2:15pm, the house clock said 615pm. I verified this when I got to my house, as well as calling information to verify. We all sat around that b-b-q, in silence and thought, wondering what happened to 4 hours of time, that we had not encountered (considering we were only beyond the columns for 15-20 minutes max.). So…our experience WAS physical. And don’t ask me to explain, becuase I have no clue, and I’m not a physics major. We often wondered what would have happened if we had continued up that mountian, and gone out of site of the two columns. Because of its weirdness, and unexplainability, and the fear of what “could” happen, we all swore to never divulge were it is, or to go there again. We don’t want to be responsible for someone disappearing (which happens all the time in those mountians). I have, however, sat in my Jeep, staring over at it, watching for some strange thing to happen, on many occasions. Just never had the will to risk it all for another adventure, that could turn bad. So, people, never under estimate what mother nature, or the unknown, can do. I no longer live in Arizona, but do miss my many, many adventures I had there. Maybe I’ll return one day, to show where the many things I found are. (Or maybe I’ll just write a book.)
Life is an adventure, esp. in Arizona. Love all the comments and stories. With all the high tech electronics, why are they not being used to solve these mysteries.
things like these are to be left alone as a Natives American such things are sacred places.
I have been there contact me if you want to assemble a team to go back
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My wife and I have visited the place 3 times since 2005. I will be happy to give anyone information on the area. My email is prhoutx@yahoo.com
As a kid growing up in western NY I had such a place. That old gate was relatively stable and the time displacement was much longer than mentioned in an above story. These are old star gates and there are many around the planet. The one near Arivaca sounds like it needs help and not something to play with. You have no way of knowing how scary it can be when you’re stuck someplace until its happened to you.
I ended up in a clean up operation during the Civil War. That was real ammo zinging by my head. Men died covering me as I figured out how to go back. The idea of running into large dinosaurs is a definite possibility also. My sister almost found the hard way and needed “help” afterwards. Another time,a piece of man was left and thrown through the gate during an eating session, don’t think he ever knew what hit him. His wife got back their wedding ring, only a piece of skin and part of his left hand was left. I gave that ring back to the local sheriff.
The problem with these gates is there a part that most people can’t see. Those arches mark its presence in our current reality, but when those arches fall, the gate is still there.
I would like to visit the gate there in the near future, but want to see other events are occurring locally. Time inversions reaching as far as those mentioned indicate a particular problem. Other events may not seem to be of significance, but unless you have spent time with one of these old gates, you may not know. Most are configured the same way, although depending on who built them that can vary.
Information is key and not the location. What I’m looking for is anything out of the ordinary in the surrounding 20 mile area. Beyond the usual stuff. The various events already mentioned indicate one thing What else is being found or seen?
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I was driving with my Dog on an old logging road near Willard Springs near Flagstaff. We came to a bend in the road that was not on my topo map. as we proceeded my dog began to whine and whimper. I stopped the car to let her out, she crawled down behind my seat and would not move. I then felt a bit light headed, my GPS stopped working and my old standby compass was spinning. All the trees in the area seemed twisted and were all leaning to the North. All the air around seemed to shimmer. I put the car in gear and proceeded on and at about 250 feet everything returned to normal. I again stopped, got out and looked back at an entirely different place then what I just drove thru, the trees were pointing up, my GPS came back on, my old compass was pointing true north. It did take a few minutes before my Dog stopped whinning. I have tried several times since to find that bend in the road with no luck.
I grew up in Carmen/Tubac back in the fifties and sixties. This would be on the opposite side of the Tumacacori mountains from the area I think he’s talking about. Arivaca is northwest of Tubac. One night I was standing on our front porch looking out at the sky and I saw an orange/green light slowly descend down into the mountains in the direction of where I think Arivaca would be. I’ve wondered about that light my whole life, so reading this gives me verification that I did see an unexplained oddity.
A friend of mine lived in Sierra Vista AZ back in the early seventies and his father claims to have seen three civil war soldiers riding down a dry riverbed that ran between Sierra Vista and Tombstone. He said they rode a distance down the riverbed, then slowly vanished into thin air. There was a time when I would have been more skeptical about such a story, but I’ve had the unsettling experience of watching a transparent man briskly walk across my back yard and vanish as he walked into a stand of trees. This was in Tacoma Washington, so it’s not related to the occurrences in Arizona.
Yeah, contact the guy Steve for info, he’ll be glad to provide for a $100. Woo-Hoo.
I meant Stanley Nussbaum will sell you a supposed DVD for $100. Yeah, buy that……..
Yes i think there’s a really high probability that i know were this site is located. I must go again and make sure.
I will be in Tucson for a couple of weeks starting the 11th of March 2015. Anyone want to explore the area with me? Email me at astralguy333@gmail.com
This is so strange! I know an author (Carl Grimsman) who wrote a completely fictional book called “Apache Portal” about this area and dealing with this portal. He felt “in touch with” the “Grandfathers” during his visits to the area and his composition.
Hey I grew up in between Tucson and arivaca. One night going west on Sahuarita rd when u go over the cattle guard a ghost car appeared. Me my mom and my brother saw it and as it turned on a lil rd north that runs along the pecan orchard out there it disappeared.
Somethings are just not meant to be found. Don’t mess with power of any sort. It’s not smart.
I hope the author reads this comment because I too have experienced the same. I was a youngster at the time probably only nine years old (around 1963). My father and I were visiting my Grandmother in Hesperia, California. We had gotten new BB-guns and walked out into the desert in early afternoon for some target shooting. When all of a sudden a door appeared with cascading greenish crystal lights falling downwards. The apparition was the same shape as a regular door but set about 2 feet up off the sand. The only thing that defined its shape were these tiny chrystaline lights, kinda like you’d see coming from a sparkler and cascading downward all within this rectangular door. There are no rock formations just flat sandy area with tumbleweeds. I look at my Dad and asked him what’s that Dad? He didn’t know and we never talked about and never discussed it with anyone until now. I only found your article because I googled “Doorway of Cascading Lights”. Yes it was something to behold. I only wonder what would have happened if we had gone through it.
How do people get 4 dislikes for such interesting comments? The one about Mark Twain, and flippant discounts, I get it. But others are simply helping out. The world is a great mystery.
I can tell you this, I believe. My name is Linda,I live in Yuma, Arizona. I can’t tell you anything about the other stories other than I enjoyed them very much, but I can tell you that I have a video of something (lights) that is proof that there is something out there in our universe with intelligence,and is not human. It travels way to fast whatever it is. It is not flares,drones,stars or any kind of military aircraft. I would love to post my video of this here for you all to see, and on YouTube, but I have yet to find anyone who can tell me anything about what it is or who to get in touch with that can tell me anything. If anyone can help me please email me at lindasue@myself.com I have let several friends view this video,and like me,they are totally amazed by the contents,and I never believed before I seen these lights that anything like that was possible. I can assure you that now I’m a believer!!
Interesting thing happened to me down in that General vicinity. Have not thought of it in years until I read this story. Sometime in the middle 70s early 80s. I was in Rio Rico working, returning to Tucson crossing the highway overpass from Rio Rico to head north on i-19. There was a hellacious Monsoon storm happening, (I love the wild weather here in Southern Arizona) as I was just beginning to cross the bridge I experienced a very bright light that would have been considered approximately 10 ft off the roadway directly in front of me. Bright enough that it looked almost like a locomotive headlight. Happened in a Split Second and at the time freaked me out a little but didn’t think too much about it. I attributed to maybe a lightning Flash. Don’t think I even ever mentioned it to anybody. Some years later don’t remember what I was reading about, but the term Saint Elmo’s Fire came up. When it explained what it was (essentially ball lightning that can happen in strong storm environments) I figured ah ha, that’s what it was. Regardless after reading this story and it being in such close proximity to these occurrences I thought it was worth mentioning. The story was a pretty good read in any case the guy who was the narrator did not speak as though he was trying to scam people. Just my opinion.
A mention was made of ‘Lost’ which was the coolest television I have ever seen. But Lost may have been inspired by true events. You see there are documented islands that have been discovered by Explorers and Ship’s Captains that disappeared when follow up visits were made by either the same or another Explorer of Captain. And then some of these have mysteriously reappeared again later, with no explanation. These mysteries are mentioned in a paranormal book I have from the early 1970’s called ‘Beyond the Strange’ by Eric Norman. It is full of weird tales and adventures. Eric Norman also wrote ‘This Hollow Earth’ and ‘The Under People’, a second book about the Hollow Earth topic. They are all great books and you will be very lucky to find them, if at all. Not sure if I believe in the Hollow Earth theory, but I won’t say it couldn’t be true, either. Another mystery that has been reported in some of these paranormal topic books by Frank Edwards (or was it Eric Norman..) is the famed ‘City in the Sky’ seen by people in some remote part of Alaska. Could that be the legendary Shambala? Or an optic illusion. It was noted long before modern technology could have created it. Then there is Frank Edwards stunning UFO book. “Flying Saucers, Serious Business”. It is the single best UFO I have ever read, it will amaze you. I have seen more than one spectacular sighting myself, including the weirdest lights at close range. I read every single book John Keel wrote and they are all amazing also. Get every book I listed, it will boggle your mind. Then read Dr Brain Weiss’s books as well as Robert Monroe. You will not regret any of these classics.
I know where it is…
Decades ago there was a program called Alcoa Presents One Step Beyond that told of stories that science couldn’t explain. Frank Edwards also wrote Stranger than Science, which also tells of things which science cannot explain. But now that many countries are declassifying their investigations of UFO sightings and Project Blue Book has been declassified and running on the History Channel, we are nearing a knowledge that will change everything we have believed in for centuries.
I would like to go there some day, if you can take me there email me at lfugit402@gmail.com
I’ve really enjoyed reading everything people have seen, I believe because I grew up in Tucson AZ. I’ve seen things since I was a kid, I would like to ask a question? Has anyone ever seen pillars going up into the sky? I was 24 years old and driving down from Mt. Lemon and my friend and I saw pillars . We pulled over and both of us was looking down into the valley into tuscon. One pillar was setting on downtown tucson. It went as high as you could see . My friend ask what are those things trapped in them. My friend and I was not drunk or on drugs we know what we saw. It was like we had driven into a whole . I’m very serious about what we saw. That was in 1980. Again thanks for everything everyone has shared.
Does anyone have the coordinates for the archway? I’d really like to pull it up on google earth.