Blah blah rightwing nut job opposes progress, that is not news. However, it's always nice to have a light on the little cockroaches. That said, if I'm not too much mistaken we're under the jurisdiction of the 9th circuit court of appeals are we not? And if in fact we are, should prop 8 be struck down, all that will be required is a lawsuit to strike Arizona's idiotic amendment, thus Bisbee acted much too soon, but certainly not without good reason and certainly in the right direction. Of course I'm no lawyer, perhaps it isn't that simple.
I emailed and went to phx.
And have passed this info to everyone I know.
Lela Alston is the only one to have responded yet, with a strongly worded show of support for Arizona's transgendered community. THANK YOU LELA ALSTON!
>You REALLY want your young daughters in the restrooms with TG folks that still have their >male junk?
Ever heard of a Female to Male trans person? Not cuties like Chaz Bono, no I mean Grizzly Adams types. Who still have their "girl junk" You gonna feel better when they're using the ladies? How bout the ones that have shiny new boy junk, but cannot legally change their birth certificate, will you feel better?
Second and most importantly, what are you trying to imply by bringing up our young daughters? I've used the ladies for more than a decade, I got my parts as they were from the factory down there. Are you trying to suggest I might try something inappropriate? How does your twisted mind get from a transperson needing to use the toilet, to posing a threat to "your young daughter." Grow up. Learn something. Think before you shoot your mouth off about a subject you clearly know absolutely nothing about.
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I am thrilled for your brother. May all the blessing of the universe fall upon you both.
However, Many, many transpeople were born in states that will not alter a birth record. Transpeople in arizona while technically allowed to do this, under the current administration, are simply ignored. Plain and simple, it's legal but Jan won't allow it.
On a side note, since the scientific community recognizes Man and Woman as Gender and Male and Female as SEX, a facility marked Man, or Woman, does NOT designate it Male only or Female only. Thus even if it ends up passing a strong case can be made for us who commit disorderly conduct by having to pee.
Next, signs which only show an image of a person in a dress or pants, further complicate this. Being that, while the meaning might be "understood" they specifically create separation based on appearance. ie. A woman in pants should have equal access to the bathroom with an image of a person in pants, as a man (not transwoman) in a dress, should have free access to the other. Every bathroom in arizona would have to be relabeled to specify "Available only to those who's birth certificate shows them to be physically female, or who have a chromosomal arrangement of XX XX. And vise versa.
Passing this law will require hundreds of thousands of dollars in enforcement costs. Housing costs for those convicted. And will require a whole list of new laws to change our language so that Man is not gender, Woman is not gender, it is sex. So, how will we define gender when they do this?
An emergency? I've lived quite peacefully among you Tucson for the past 18 years. Never caused a problem. I don't like using public restroom any more than most other women. And I'm single minded when I go in. My only consideration is taking care of business, so that I don't have to be there. What is the Emergency? Has there been a sudden explosion in the Trans population in Arizona? Are Trans people suddenly flocking to gender appropriate bathrooms all over the state, keeping "normal" people doing the pee-pee dance at establishments everywhere? What is the problem? 18 years people...
On a side note, this is as much a slap in the face to F2M citizens as M2F. However these moronic laws are usually aimed at transwomen. But this law will be a case of very dumb people shooting themselves in the foot just for the chance to be cruel to some one. May I remind you all that not all transmen are the cute cuddly, rolly polly Chaz bono types. Some of them are big, hairy, full bearded, muscle bound, deep voiced, body builder types. This law passes, and how comfortable do you think these right wing hate mongers are going to feel when one of my big, Grizzly Adams type brothers walks in to their sacred "female only" spaces?
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And have passed this info to everyone I know.
Lela Alston is the only one to have responded yet, with a strongly worded show of support for Arizona's transgendered community. THANK YOU LELA ALSTON!
>You REALLY want your young daughters in the restrooms with TG folks that still have their >male junk?
Ever heard of a Female to Male trans person? Not cuties like Chaz Bono, no I mean Grizzly Adams types. Who still have their "girl junk" You gonna feel better when they're using the ladies? How bout the ones that have shiny new boy junk, but cannot legally change their birth certificate, will you feel better?
Second and most importantly, what are you trying to imply by bringing up our young daughters? I've used the ladies for more than a decade, I got my parts as they were from the factory down there. Are you trying to suggest I might try something inappropriate? How does your twisted mind get from a transperson needing to use the toilet, to posing a threat to "your young daughter." Grow up. Learn something. Think before you shoot your mouth off about a subject you clearly know absolutely nothing about.
I am thrilled for your brother. May all the blessing of the universe fall upon you both.
However, Many, many transpeople were born in states that will not alter a birth record. Transpeople in arizona while technically allowed to do this, under the current administration, are simply ignored. Plain and simple, it's legal but Jan won't allow it.
Next, signs which only show an image of a person in a dress or pants, further complicate this. Being that, while the meaning might be "understood" they specifically create separation based on appearance. ie. A woman in pants should have equal access to the bathroom with an image of a person in pants, as a man (not transwoman) in a dress, should have free access to the other. Every bathroom in arizona would have to be relabeled to specify "Available only to those who's birth certificate shows them to be physically female, or who have a chromosomal arrangement of XX XX. And vise versa.
Passing this law will require hundreds of thousands of dollars in enforcement costs. Housing costs for those convicted. And will require a whole list of new laws to change our language so that Man is not gender, Woman is not gender, it is sex. So, how will we define gender when they do this?
On a side note, this is as much a slap in the face to F2M citizens as M2F. However these moronic laws are usually aimed at transwomen. But this law will be a case of very dumb people shooting themselves in the foot just for the chance to be cruel to some one. May I remind you all that not all transmen are the cute cuddly, rolly polly Chaz bono types. Some of them are big, hairy, full bearded, muscle bound, deep voiced, body builder types. This law passes, and how comfortable do you think these right wing hate mongers are going to feel when one of my big, Grizzly Adams type brothers walks in to their sacred "female only" spaces?