OldKenny, it seems you have not been along the border in awhile. Yes, the majority of Border Patrol Agents you "see" our at their checkpoints, and along the highways. However, that is not the majority of how many Border Patrol are working. There are camps within a mile of the border manned 24 hours by Border Patrol. There are agents all over the border region.
Charles, source? I can say monkeys are smart enough to do algebra, but if I do not have a source, I am just talking out of my butt. Are you suggesting that a agent driving a little of the dirt road or following a group of illegal aliens, causes atmospheric conditions that makes a fire bigger? Even if you are right that the destruction of grasslands and National Forest by traveling off the main trails, is the main source of why these fires got out of hand. The sheer amount of thousands and thousands of illegal aliens and drug loads walking completely off the main trail dwarfs the couple of Border Patrol Agents following them.
Oh, here in my source..
"Along a rugged stretch of the Mexican border here in southern Arizona, U.S. authorities captured 687 illegal immigrants in a 24-hour period last week, three times the number captured near San Diego. During the past eight months, agents have apprehended 168,000 migrants along this sector of the border." http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2…
those 168,000 are just the illegal aliens they caught, there is no way to know how many more came through completely undetected. Saying that the couple thousand agents roaming around the desert do more damage than the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of illegal aliens running away from them are more dangerous to the environment is insane.
Llrnccrp@aol.com, nice talking about about volcanoes, what is your source?
I say you are wrong and just spewing a Fox talking point...
"According to the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), the world’s volcanoes, both on land and undersea, generate about 200 million tons of carbon dioxide (CO2) annually, while our automotive and industrial activities cause some 24 billion tons of CO2 emissions every year worldwide. Despite the arguments to the contrary, the facts speak for themselves: Greenhouse gas emissions from volcanoes comprise less than one percent of those generated by today’s human endeavors." http://environment.about.com/od/greenhouse…
Is climate change primarily caused by humans? I personally do not know, I just go by what the majority of scientists have concluded. The science is the science. Thousands of researchers worldwide are working on the problem of climate change and most of them are not Americans - or democrats -let alone republicans.
However, I do see how our society and culture is unsustainable. From our dependency of oil, coal and other dirtier and hard to get resources. The fact we are running out of easy sources of oil. Drilling in the ocean, drilling on a ice sheet (Alaska), and other harder areas to drilling is not going to drive down price. Drilling in those areas cost a lot more than drilling in Texas, Saudi Arabia and on land. Plus with the increasing demand from China, India, and other developing countries are going to put even more of a demand. Also if you believe in peak oil, which makes sense since oil is a finite resource, we need to move off of fossil fuels.
Not to forget our unsustainable industrial farming (which relies heavily on fossil fuels), unsustainable mass fishing, and our unsustainable consumer driven society.
The benefits of changing our lifestyle are numerous..
-energy independence
-preserving rainforests
-sustainability
-new green jobs
-cleaner, livable cities
-clean water and less pollutants in our enivorment
But hey What if global warming is a hoax and we create a better world for nothing? We should just keep polluting, maybe our kids will figure it out in the future...after they deal with the 13 TRILLION dollars that was smacked onto our debt in only 30 years. I do not blame myself and my generation for all these problems. I blame the baby boom generation for not leaving us a better world that their parents did. How is listening to neo-conservative, supply side, free trade, de-regulation idea that Rush keeps talking about working out for you?? Don't worry, your kids will just deal with it after you are long and gone...
Mickey, even though I do take issue with having private prisons. I do not believe that type of government function should ever be at the hands of a private company. However, SB 1070 is constitutional and does not discriminate by the wording of the law. Show me the text in the law that states how it discriminates. There is nothing illegal about how SB 1070 was going to be enforced.
Gore, I normally listen to Sirus XM Left, Free Speech TV, and yes Shepard Smith on Fox News. I still think our immigration laws needs to be enforced and AZ is in the right for providing their local law enforcement more instruction to how to deal with illegal aliens. I am not a "whitey-righty" and am a proud member of my Union. So maybe you need to stop being some ignorant about why people support SB 1070.
I know the Tucson Weekly likes to publish half truths and ignorant opinions, but sounds more like a rant than a opinion piece.
1. Shawna Forde was basically banned by any mainstream anti-illegal immigration militias. She was even kicked out of the groups she helped found, Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, in 2007. Her "militia" was called Minutemen American Defense, which was more of a gang and actively broke state and federal laws. She was kicked out of MCDC because she was unstable and violent. She is no more of a militia member than members of the KKK were Christians..
2. The illegal aliens that died from the elements in the desert is tragic, but it was by their own free will.
3. The names mention all have various elements that concluded with their deaths. Esequiel was killed after shooting at the Marines. That has nothing to do with our law enforcement and everything to do with not properly training our military when put along the border. Brisenia and Raul Flores were killed by a home invasion and had nothing to do with our our immigration polices. The others were throwing rocks at law enforcement personal which could cause serious injury or death. If you do not believe it, I will be more than happy to throw first sized rocks at our head until you get the picture.
This is another reason why the Tucson Weekly is giving away for free. Who really would pay for this blatant one sided opinion piece?
How was actually wanting to make living in this country illegally harder to do "stigmatizing" illegal aliens? It is sad that the Chamber of Commerce still shows how much political clout they have over Republicans. Where they go against the will of the people that actually want tougher laws against illegal aliens, and side with businesses that treat illegal aliens as indentured servants.
Also what was the point about bring up how they increase funding for police officers by increasing fines on crimes? Do you think that was a bad idea, or are you just trying to be somewhat objective in your article? That this was a positive thing to help our struggling police departments in this state.
You did bring up the fact that Mr. Antenori is increasingly showing his true big government leanings by wanting to intrude on local matters. Also, didn't the Governor sign a bill for tax breaks for corporations in the state, while still complaining about not having enough money to keep social programs alive??
This whole "civil disobedience" is part of American culture does not relate the these children. Children have NO SAY in what classes happening in school. They do not pay taxes, if a child wants a class to continue. They need to tell their parents (who pay taxes and the budget of the school) to complain to the school council. Civil Disobedience is about injustice that happens in a community. Discussing the idea of making La Raze Studies a elective and not be allowed to replace actual American History is not a injustice. Personally, I agree with that stance. We are all Americans and need to learn AMERICAN HISTORY. If you want to learn a subset of history involving this area, that is fine with me. However, it should not replace general American History.
This whole issue of La Raze Studies, legal and illegal immigration, Illegal Aliens needs to take a step back and listen to one of our greatest Presidents....
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
"We can have no '50-50' allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all."
Well Sharon, if you want to listen to talking head on the national news to find out where you should live and visit, you have bigger problems with your life. Tucson is a great place to live, work and retire. SB 1070 is not racist and anyone who thinks that is not trusting their law enforcement to enforce the law. The only reason you might want to not move to Tucson is how our city council has not adequately funded our police force since the late 1990's. We have the same amount of police officers that we did 10 years ago. Nothing against our officers, they are some of the best in the country. It is not their fault the council and the residents don't want to cut funding or raise property taxes to help properly fund out cops.
That being said, I still pick Tucson over most medium sized cities. We have wonderful restaurants, resorts, and surrounding by a National Forest and four mountain ranges. Don't let a bunch of talking heads make you feel that Tucson is a "crazy place."
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Charles, source? I can say monkeys are smart enough to do algebra, but if I do not have a source, I am just talking out of my butt. Are you suggesting that a agent driving a little of the dirt road or following a group of illegal aliens, causes atmospheric conditions that makes a fire bigger? Even if you are right that the destruction of grasslands and National Forest by traveling off the main trails, is the main source of why these fires got out of hand. The sheer amount of thousands and thousands of illegal aliens and drug loads walking completely off the main trail dwarfs the couple of Border Patrol Agents following them.
Oh, here in my source..
"Along a rugged stretch of the Mexican border here in southern Arizona, U.S. authorities captured 687 illegal immigrants in a 24-hour period last week, three times the number captured near San Diego. During the past eight months, agents have apprehended 168,000 migrants along this sector of the border."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2…
those 168,000 are just the illegal aliens they caught, there is no way to know how many more came through completely undetected. Saying that the couple thousand agents roaming around the desert do more damage than the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of illegal aliens running away from them are more dangerous to the environment is insane.
I say you are wrong and just spewing a Fox talking point...
"According to the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), the world’s volcanoes, both on land and undersea, generate about 200 million tons of carbon dioxide (CO2) annually, while our automotive and industrial activities cause some 24 billion tons of CO2 emissions every year worldwide. Despite the arguments to the contrary, the facts speak for themselves: Greenhouse gas emissions from volcanoes comprise less than one percent of those generated by today’s human endeavors."
http://environment.about.com/od/greenhouse…
http://www.livescience.com/14591-carbon-di…
http://environment.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1…
Is climate change primarily caused by humans? I personally do not know, I just go by what the majority of scientists have concluded. The science is the science. Thousands of researchers worldwide are working on the problem of climate change and most of them are not Americans - or democrats -let alone republicans.
However, I do see how our society and culture is unsustainable. From our dependency of oil, coal and other dirtier and hard to get resources. The fact we are running out of easy sources of oil. Drilling in the ocean, drilling on a ice sheet (Alaska), and other harder areas to drilling is not going to drive down price. Drilling in those areas cost a lot more than drilling in Texas, Saudi Arabia and on land. Plus with the increasing demand from China, India, and other developing countries are going to put even more of a demand. Also if you believe in peak oil, which makes sense since oil is a finite resource, we need to move off of fossil fuels.
Not to forget our unsustainable industrial farming (which relies heavily on fossil fuels), unsustainable mass fishing, and our unsustainable consumer driven society.
The benefits of changing our lifestyle are numerous..
-energy independence
-preserving rainforests
-sustainability
-new green jobs
-cleaner, livable cities
-clean water and less pollutants in our enivorment
But hey What if global warming is a hoax and we create a better world for nothing? We should just keep polluting, maybe our kids will figure it out in the future...after they deal with the 13 TRILLION dollars that was smacked onto our debt in only 30 years. I do not blame myself and my generation for all these problems. I blame the baby boom generation for not leaving us a better world that their parents did. How is listening to neo-conservative, supply side, free trade, de-regulation idea that Rush keeps talking about working out for you?? Don't worry, your kids will just deal with it after you are long and gone...
Gore, I normally listen to Sirus XM Left, Free Speech TV, and yes Shepard Smith on Fox News. I still think our immigration laws needs to be enforced and AZ is in the right for providing their local law enforcement more instruction to how to deal with illegal aliens. I am not a "whitey-righty" and am a proud member of my Union. So maybe you need to stop being some ignorant about why people support SB 1070.
1. Shawna Forde was basically banned by any mainstream anti-illegal immigration militias. She was even kicked out of the groups she helped found, Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, in 2007. Her "militia" was called Minutemen American Defense, which was more of a gang and actively broke state and federal laws. She was kicked out of MCDC because she was unstable and violent. She is no more of a militia member than members of the KKK were Christians..
2. The illegal aliens that died from the elements in the desert is tragic, but it was by their own free will.
3. The names mention all have various elements that concluded with their deaths. Esequiel was killed after shooting at the Marines. That has nothing to do with our law enforcement and everything to do with not properly training our military when put along the border. Brisenia and Raul Flores were killed by a home invasion and had nothing to do with our our immigration polices. The others were throwing rocks at law enforcement personal which could cause serious injury or death. If you do not believe it, I will be more than happy to throw first sized rocks at our head until you get the picture.
This is another reason why the Tucson Weekly is giving away for free. Who really would pay for this blatant one sided opinion piece?
Also what was the point about bring up how they increase funding for police officers by increasing fines on crimes? Do you think that was a bad idea, or are you just trying to be somewhat objective in your article? That this was a positive thing to help our struggling police departments in this state.
You did bring up the fact that Mr. Antenori is increasingly showing his true big government leanings by wanting to intrude on local matters. Also, didn't the Governor sign a bill for tax breaks for corporations in the state, while still complaining about not having enough money to keep social programs alive??
This whole issue of La Raze Studies, legal and illegal immigration, Illegal Aliens needs to take a step back and listen to one of our greatest Presidents....
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
"We can have no '50-50' allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all."
Theodore Roosevelt
That being said, I still pick Tucson over most medium sized cities. We have wonderful restaurants, resorts, and surrounding by a National Forest and four mountain ranges. Don't let a bunch of talking heads make you feel that Tucson is a "crazy place."