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Re: “Segregation and Desegregation, TUSD Schools and Tucson Charter Schools

Or are you inferring that charters are somehow "racist" in their admissions process?

Look to the parents. Parents that understand the failings of the public school system left first. Others will follow. No story here.

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Posted by David W on 11/24/2015 at 5:02 PM

Re: “Recent TUSD Decisions: The Good, the Bad and the Arrogant

It's quite possible that if the City elections were fixed per the 9th Circuit Court ruling that candidates that have stood in the shadows may step forward. I see a couple at the County level that have become encouraged after the failing of the "old guard" on the bonds.

Change just may be coming. We can hope can't we?

Posted by Rat T on 11/24/2015 at 4:26 PM

Re: “Segregation and Desegregation, TUSD Schools and Tucson Charter Schools

Sorry - perhaps I missed something. Are charters under desegregation orders? Do they levy taxes on residents within a district for the specific purpose of achieving integration? No?

So why exactly is it relevant that schools not drawing money from the community in support of integration aren't integrated?

Whereas in TUSD, which has been levying desegregation taxes for 40 years, the public has a right to expect integration, and a right to be pretty damn mad that their elected representatives lie to the public about the fact that it's the district, not the deseg authority, that is starving schools hat are supposed to be receiving funding to INTEGRATE.

Spin away, David. Make more graphs, why don't you? People understand what your role is.

Poor Adelita. She had a chance to follow in her father's footsteps, but she blew it on an arrogant, megalomaniacal young schemer from Texas. Looks to me like in return for the faith she placed in him, he has destroyed her political career.

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Posted by Spin away, you're not persuading anyone. on 11/24/2015 at 4:23 PM

Re: “Recent TUSD Decisions: The Good, the Bad and the Arrogant

Rat, I tend to agree with your comment except for one pertinent point, the local Republicans are a bizarre lot and I wonder what they would do and who they would favor if they ever were elected to a majority position.

Kind of like the dog that finally catches the car it's been chasing.

Posted by Rick Spanier on 11/24/2015 at 4:09 PM

Re: “Recent TUSD Decisions: The Good, the Bad and the Arrogant

Crony capitalism is a term describing an economy in which success in business depends on close relationships between business people and government officials. It may be exhibited by favoritism in the distribution of legal permits, government grants, special tax breaks, or other forms of state interventionism.

That IS a very interesting point. It may take, or it will take a change of political party to put a halt to that.

This city desperately needs to move forward. We are stuck on stupid because we allow the very same people to stay in office too long.

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Posted by Rat T on 11/24/2015 at 4:05 PM

Re: “Recent TUSD Decisions: The Good, the Bad and the Arrogant

Well said, Rick.

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Posted by A Former TUSD Parent on 11/24/2015 at 3:59 PM

Re: “Recent TUSD Decisions: The Good, the Bad and the Arrogant

Bisbee Boy, Tucson is rich in businesses that directly support the mining industry (Modular Mining and many others). That's a good thing and those businesses employ thousands of highly paid professionals. To suggest Rosemont Mine will be a godsend to the local economy flies in the face of reality; copper prices are down and the major importer, China, is in an economic tailspin. The market is simply not there. In a boom and bust business, copper mining is now officially in a bust cycle with miners being laid off here and Hudbay's stock down below $5 from a five year high of $20. You really want to bet on that nag for the economic well being of Southern Arizona?

Rat, the biggest obstacle to Tucson gaining traction and building a solid base of business is, in my view, the crony capitalism, nepotism and garden variety idiocy we see each year evidenced by the Grand Canyon University fiasco and the latest brouhaha with TUSD naming family of board members to the internal audit committee. Throw in your favorite, be it Rio Nevero or the palatial new digs for the Regional Transport Authority. My favorite is a state issue, the legislature's absolute head in the sand approach to film production in one of the most scenic states in the union. So, locally we have Democratic rule that will find the way to screw the pooch at every opportunity and statewide we have Republicans who will always ignore the twenty dollar bill laying in front of them to chase a nickel rolling down the street.

Any discussion of school improvement strategies for TUSD is moot until the deadwood is removed from the board and administration. Perhaps as a result funding levels can be increased to provide teachers with a wage consistent with the critical role they could provide for the city's future. Until that happens parents will continue to pull their kids out of the district and UA graduates will continue to flee the city for greener climates.

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 11/24/2015 at 3:07 PM

Re: “Recent TUSD Decisions: The Good, the Bad and the Arrogant

Bisbee boy, I watched a news story this morning naming 5 countries that are on the verge of economic collapse due to oil prices. They claim citizens are about to riot. We have increased our production and cut consumption, but now it's destroying other countries' economic viability. Just like all the global warming kooks, they never stopped to consider the unintended consequences.

They can't all live in the USA. This immigration system is about to be overwhelmed and nobody is doing a thing. It will be the second coming of the baby boom that will bankrupt the social strategies of the 40s.

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Posted by Rat T on 11/24/2015 at 2:41 PM

Re: “Recent TUSD Decisions: The Good, the Bad and the Arrogant

Tucson will remain poor until there is a realization that the basic industries are necessary to lift the wages of the average person. This includes mining projects such as Rosemont. For each directly employed person, nearly two other full-time jobs are created to support such operations.

The whiners suggest that inasmuch as the owner, HudBay, is a Canadian company, we are giving away resources. This is a red herring. The vast majority of the income from the sale of the copper stays here in the US as "cost of production."

Hopefully, someday our "Obama-led" politicians will think for themselves and do something for Arizona by supporting the responsible exploitation of our natural resources.

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Posted by Bisbee boy on 11/24/2015 at 2:28 PM

Re: “The TUSD Magnet Schools Dilemma Continues: Will There Ever Be a Gray Area?

It used to be that the media informed the public. Now it's the other way around. If single payer works in health care, then the only way to make the public responsible is to give them all edu-credits and let them shop for a school. If it can be done more cost effectively they get to keep the savings. That would get their attention.

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Posted by Rat T on 11/24/2015 at 2:00 PM

Re: “The TUSD Magnet Schools Dilemma Continues: Will There Ever Be a Gray Area?

You are so right Rat T

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Posted by Brian Sauber on 11/24/2015 at 1:00 PM

Re: “The TUSD Magnet Schools Dilemma Continues: Will There Ever Be a Gray Area?

Fact Checking Teacher, you are so right and I thank you for saying it. I also support Ms. Campoy, but I don't have the access that you have. The court ordered that Grijalva receive all orders and documents as a warning, she has been put on notice about spreading misinformation, clearly she doesn't care. I hope that you will relay this to Ms. Campoy , if she should notify the court it may expedite her removal.

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Posted by Brian Sauber on 11/24/2015 at 12:09 PM

Re: “The TUSD Magnet Schools Dilemma Continues: Will There Ever Be a Gray Area?

Brian, the public will only get the truth when the public demands the truth. Until then the bias will continue. It's a constant drip, drip, drip,.....

Some of the blame for what TUSD has become lies at the feet of those that did nothing. I left so long ago and can't believe how fortunate I was to "think" that something is wrong here and it won't be fixed before my kids graduate HS.

Leaving was the best thing I could have done for my children. Shame on TUSD.

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Posted by Rat T on 11/24/2015 at 12:09 PM

Re: “The TUSD Magnet Schools Dilemma Continues: Will There Ever Be a Gray Area?

TUSD is in its death throws. I've said it many times before, TUSD will not survive with this leadership. My organization has demanded Sanchez' resignation after his racist comments, this majority chose to ignore it, law makers have not. The Federal handed Grijalva her butt, yet reading her statement in this article , it appears she doesn't care . Statements made here by Grijalva could get her held in contempt . I hope the judge sees this article. As for the Weekly , you over looked many facts on this issue, try reporting with no bias . The public needs the truth , not Grijalva propaganda.

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Posted by Brian Sauber on 11/24/2015 at 11:50 AM

Re: “The TUSD Magnet Schools Dilemma Continues: Will There Ever Be a Gray Area?

Fact Checks on Adelita Grijalva:
I am actually very happy that I was able to find Sylvia Campoy and ask her to send me the desegregation updates which I have been receiving for over two years. As a teacher it is the best information that I have been able to get about what has been occurring with the magnet schools on the desegregation case. I even set up a meeting with her and several teachers at my home. They were thrilled. I understand why Ms. Grijalva and her dad would want to wipe her out along with the Special Master. They want “their” people in place to carry their water. The Grijalvas’ point people have been asking current parents to demand that they be able to replace her and the Mendoza Plaintiffs. I know because I attended a meeting where this took place. What a disgrace!

Based on the updates and what I have learned in speaking with Ms. Campoy, here are the FACTS:
1. I have downloaded her updates and she has never said that “she” represents TUSD’s Latino students. What she has said is that she is a Mendoza Plaintiffs’ Representative. In the meeting with her, she explained that the Mendoza Plaintiffs are part of the 4 decade class action suit and, legally, the Plaitniffs represent the Latino class of students attending TUSD. Check your facts Madam President.

She also shared that her family has been in Tucson for 6 generations and that she is committed to this community and to TUSD. But her words have actually been lived out in her community and professional work. She was a TUSD student, TUSD teacher and administrator, she served on the Governing Board and her children attended TUSD. She has decades experience in public education, social justice and civil rights work. Her reputation in the area is phenomenal.

By the way, the Mendoza Plaintiffs and Ms. Campoy live within TUSD boundaries and are property owners, which is contrary to what Dr. Sanchez said at a school meeting.

2. Dr. Hawley is a nationally recognized expert in civil rights and public education. His research in the area is very impressive. The appointment of special masters are not made within the communities that they live. Dr. Hawley is not a Plaintiff in the case but it is interesting that Adelita and HT Sanchez both have gone on the attack. He called him “another superintendent”. Dr. Hawley is a Special Master and perhaps, Ms. Grijalva, you should do some real homework and find out what his role is. At least it is understood by the Court, if not TUSD.

3. If Ms. Grijalva has a “thing” for people who represent students living within TUSD, why did she and her dad endorse and support Krystal Foster get on the TUSD Board? Krystal has no children. Strange that she votes with Grijalva 99% of the time after gaining such support from Adelita and her dad. Madam President, do not speak out of both sides of your mouth.

4. As far as being “elected” to represent children. I am not elected either Ms. Grijalva. I do not have children attending TUSD but every single day of school, I represent my students. I advocate for them. I love my magnet school that YOU have not supported for as long as I have taught at the school. And did you read what Ms. Campoy said in her update? If not, here it is: “TUSD officials must understand their intention in dealing with all of us who are engaged in the desegregation case and when the District- its officials- cast public dispersions upon those of us who are involved- the District must understand that it is dividing; not collaborating. Reference has recently been made to me as an “unelected” Plaintiffs’ Representative, and while the statement is accurate its intention is far from pure. My position as a Plaintiffs’ Representative is not political. It is not contingent on campaign promises, fund-raising, name recognition or political endorsements; nor should it be. But too, the position should not be threatened or belittled by political figures. I represent the Mendoza Plaintiffs, both of whom remain engaged in the case and I do so with honor.”

5. The recent Court Order specifically stated: “Because of the highly visible nature of the magnet schools, the Court has received large numbers of letters from concerned citizens. These letters reflect a great amount of misunderstanding by the public regarding the changes underway to TUSD’s magnet program.” This assessment affirms both the Fisher and Mendoza outlook on this matter, as well as the growing opinion within the community, for which I am pleased. Additionally, and more significantly, the Court has ordered that the President of the Board will be provided with any substantive Order it issues, starting with the Order discussed in this update. The Court Order states, “In this way, on an ongoing basis, she may be kept abreast of the facts of this case, including the Court’s logic and reasoning, and the progress of the USP.” Adelita, you know that the letters were all developed by the administration and send out fromthe schools. I work at one of the schools and know this for a FACT. I refused to have anything to do with the smear campaign and have been criticized for my lack of “team support”. Really, it is nothing more than bullying all the way around. “Team support” has become nothing more than attack strategies against the desegregation court order.

6. Once again- the demographics that were used to develop the Unitary Status Plan were current. How many times does this need to be said? And as far as I can see the changes that have come about, that Ms. Grijalva has taken up as her stump speech, all fall back on the administration and Board. They turned in a lousy magnet plan. The Judge instructed them to re-do it. They then put a third plan together, which has been approved. The District is being supervised by a Federal Court because it cannot seem to get it right without that kind of supervision.

7. The most offensive statement from Adelita is that magnet schools are going to lose funding because they are too brown. This flames racial tensions and she knows it and does not give a hoot. These are the exact words that Cesar Aguirre has used. I have heard him. Both of them are dead-on WRONG. Schools like Ochoa have refused to integrate and have fought it because of influences such as Aguirre. He and HT Sanchez are full of race-based divisive statements, which if made by a non-minority would be considered bigoted. Well- they are bigoted. Adelita, shame on you for buying this cheap and divisive argument and using it to defend the fact that the schools have not complied with the desegregation court order, which is a FACT.

Just a thought, Madam President. Get your facts straight. Do some research. Step outside of your parroting mode and think for yourself. Is that possible?

(I obviously cannot use my name, which I regret but writing and sending this during my lunch break makes me feel as though I am contributing- to the facts.)

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Posted by Fact Checking Teacher on 11/24/2015 at 11:34 AM

Re: “The TUSD Magnet Schools Dilemma Continues: Will There Ever Be a Gray Area?

TUSD needs board members who will ensure that the district:

...STARTS documenting that it is applying desegregation funds to actually benefit Hispanics and African-Americans.

...STOPS using taxpayer money to build a political machine & loyalties rather than to educate our young people.

...STOPS running deliberate campaigns to spread misunderstanding of the courts' actions and stir up resentment against the desegregation authority.

...STOPS its INEXCUSBLE attempts to turn the community against the idea of integration.

Just say "NO" to Grijalva's allies Foster and Juarez and any other Grijalva-cronies put forward in the 2016 board elections. This school district desperately needs a leadership change.

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Posted by Vote Out the Bad Leadership in TUSD on 11/24/2015 at 10:08 AM

Re: “Recent TUSD Decisions: The Good, the Bad and the Arrogant

Rick, can you explain to me why "Tucson is a relatively poor city," and what can we do to change it? I personally see charter trade schools for blue collar students as one way to provide what Tucsonans need and want. Education alone will not improve the economics of Tucson. There is something fundamentally wrong at the root of this problem.

I'll be darned if I can figure it out. And yet the public school upper management and the City and County heads make as much as anywhere in the country. That does not reflect the community at large. And I must add that very few problems are solved.

What gives? It's time for an open an honest discussion about how to change Tucson for the better because politics is not getting it done.

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Posted by Rat T on 11/24/2015 at 10:07 AM

Re: “The TUSD Magnet Schools Dilemma Continues: Will There Ever Be a Gray Area?

Good point, "Read the Docs Yourself..." about UHS.

What would people be saying if the district's message to Anglo parents at UHS was "our kids don't have to sit next to brown kids in order to learn" just as the message to brown parents at the magnets is "our kids don't have to sit next to white kids in order to learn"? The community would be up in arms.

Why is it somehow OK to say this to Hispanics in the magnets? What kind of attitude does the district's counter-productive message create among Hispanics in the "magnets" toward Anglos that enroll? Will Anglo students who enroll be welcomed, or will they be resented because kids have been hearing at home, "my mom and dad say I don't have to sit next to white kids in order to learn"?

Reverse racism is still racism, and it's still ugly and counter-productive.

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Posted by Turn About Is Fair Play on 11/24/2015 at 10:06 AM

Re: “Recent TUSD Decisions: The Good, the Bad and the Arrogant

Tucson is a relatively poor city and TUSD has yet to convince voters that it deserves a robust infusion of additional revenue via bonding or overrides. A salary and benefits package for this superintendent ranging from $250,000-$300,000 might be in line with other large districts. But stating "I believe he has done, and continues to do, a reasonably good job" is faint and damning praise. The Tucsonans who are struggling to make ends meet on poverty level incomes, expect more than a reasonably good job - they expect to see the district turned around.

Without a proven, experienced administrator supported by a competent, non-partisan school board, TUSD will continue to be an educational backwater and revolving door for would be school improvement journeymen.

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 11/24/2015 at 9:29 AM

Re: “Court Pleading

...and now Kozachik is trying to breath life back into the Sonoran Corridor Bond before we comply with the court's decision on illegal elections in Tucson.

Force them onto the same ballot and the Corridor will get the same results. Bring jobs and show the need before we give you any money. Even the RTA is now floating the idea of stealing funds from other projects as the revues were actually over stated and those projects can not be completed. More misrepresentation which erodes public confidence.

And animal crossings costing millions and millions of dollars? Stop this nonsense. We have homeless that need food. Share the roadkill.

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Posted by David W on 11/24/2015 at 9:24 AM

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