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Re: “A Dollar a Day, and Other Observations About Ducey's Education Funding Proposal

Ducey didn't sign legislation allowing tax credits for public schools. Liberals added that to the private school credit, which was approved for parents that were being forced to pay twice for education, when they were not using public ed. But I thought public credits could only be used for extra curricular activities as band or art.

If UHS received $300,000 is it reflected in the balance sheet as income to them? So then what is the real cost of a HS education at UHS when the 300K is added to all the other funding sources received?

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Posted by Concerned Mom on 01/18/2017 at 3:37 PM

Re: “Trump's Election Has Been Very Good For K12 Inc.

Students from k-12 have been helped by the election of Donald Trump. As they ask "what is the electoral college and why do the progressives keep talking about winning the popular vote, when it means absolutely nothing?" They seem to be acting more childish than we as students act.

Students band together and ask for a real honest education that includes real historic figures that wrote the Constitution to protect us from enemies from both domestic and foreign. You kids deserve to know the truth so you might as well ask them why they have hid so much from you in some sort of a childish partisan way. Progressive elites use their minions to accomplish sinister goals that uneducated would never fall for.

Then ask, "teacher what happened to Kenny?'

http://unclesamsmisguidedchildren.com/hillary-clinton-vanishing-school-children/

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Posted by Public Ed Is So Broken on 01/18/2017 at 3:28 PM

Re: “Trump's Election Has Been Very Good For K12 Inc.

How about shadowing a student through the school day at one of the recently de-magnetized TUSD schools, David, and getting back to us about whether choice policy is needed in Arizona?

These are schools in a district with the highest (desegregation-augmented) per-pupil funding rates in our region, and as magnet schools for a number of years they had authorization to utilize specially designated "magnet" funds. Part of the reason they lost magnet status was they failed to apply the funds in ways authorized by the desegregation authority, i.e. failed to use the funds properly to achieve benefit for target populations and attract students of a different demographic from outside the neighborhood.

What should students whose neighborhood public district school is one of these malfunctioning institutions do? Go down and speak in the Call to the Audience at a TUSD Board meeting to "I-take-home-$500K-per-year-of-your-tax dollars" HT Sanchez? It's hard to find many signs in this man's record in office that he gives a good Goddam about supporting school sites serving primarily the disadvantaged, as he uses newly available funding sources to give band uniforms to UHS before any other school in the district, and now this year to Tucson High Magnet: both schools that have among the largest tax credit donation totals in the district and also private foundations raising money for them. Then there were his repeated attempts to create a Fruchthendler to Sabino direct-feed pipeline, relieving parents utilizing an affluent-area TUSD elementary school (the one his own children happen to attend) and an affluent-area TUSD high school from having to enroll their children in a TUSD middle school serving (shudder) the disadvantaged.

Don't know about you, but if I were a parent with limited resources who'd had an up-close-and-personal view of what TUSD offers to its less affluent constituents, I'd be taking advantage of AZ's choice policies. Before running another article like this, David, I suggest you interview a few families who've used choice policies to opt out of Ochoa or Utterback or a few Hispanic families who use tax credits to enroll their kids in a Catholic school that is higher functioning than their neighborhood public school. But -- oops -- that would be something a real journalist does, not a propagandist pitching the same sad, hollow ideological BS you usually pitch here.

The day we see the majority of Fruchthendler parents with other options available enrolling their kids in Magee (or Utterback) for Middle School is the day I'll believe it's safe to start opposing choice policy. Until then, blocking choice policy serves families utilizing public district schools in affluent neighborhoods -- families like the (TUSD Sup) Sanchez family and the (Arizona Education Network former TUSD Board candidate and anti-choice organizer) Darland family. It does not serve the poor.

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Posted by How about some real journalism for a change? on 01/18/2017 at 3:16 PM

Re: “A Dollar a Day, and Other Observations About Ducey's Education Funding Proposal

...and let's not forget that public schools with high test scores not only serve students who have more support of various kinds in their homes, they serve students whose families invest hundreds of thousands and sometimes millions of dollars in their schools, both privately donated funds, through foundations and 501c3s supporting public schools, and, in Arizona, "tax credits." The schools serving the most affluent already have plenty of supplementary funding to apply, and their students don't have as many unmet needs, e.g. most have access to plenty of technology in their homes.

Private foundations supporting affluent public districts in Southern Arizona:
http://cfsdfoundation.org
http://tvseef.org

Beginning on p. 14 of this TUSD manual,
http://www.tusd1.org/sdm/documents/handbook.pdf
there are charts reporting tax credit contributions at various district schools. UHS, a selective TUSD high school with high test scores that serves a population more affluent than most TUSD schools' populations, had over $300K in tax credit funds to apply in the last school year reported. In the same year, many schools serving low-SES students had less than $10K to apply.

Way to go, Ducey. Coals to Newcastle: what brilliant public policy.

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Posted by This is "Hunger Games" education policy. on 01/18/2017 at 2:05 PM

Re: “A Dollar a Day, and Other Observations About Ducey's Education Funding Proposal

There are no potholes in Phoenix. What gives?

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Posted by Dave Nelson on 01/18/2017 at 1:42 PM

Re: “A Dollar a Day, and Other Observations About Ducey's Education Funding Proposal

Carlos Ruiz:

David Safier did acknowledge that there will be a greater funding weight for low income / high performing schools. Here is what he wrote:

"His plan gives more money to top 10 percent schools where more than 60 percent of their students qualify for free and reduced lunch$400 per student at the lower income schools compared to $225 per student at the othersmeaning his plan is significantly more generous to schools whose high test scores beat the odds."

As for your assertion that "it's up to the school leaders to make the choices to expand, replicate or improve." This seems to assume that whether or not to "excel" is a CHOICE leaders of schools serving low-SES populations can make and whether or not they make it into the top 10% is somehow a test of their will and character. Those who make these kinds of arguments tend to like free market mechanisms. Consider this aspect of the free market: the wage rates in the teaching profession are so low in Arizona and the conditions in many schools are so poor (due in part to the brutal elimination of the kinds of social service programs that make it possible for families working for low wages to provide the right kind of support for their children outside of school) that Arizona has one of the worst teacher shortages in the nation. Our certified teachers are refusing to work in the profession for which they have been educated by the thousands and many of our classrooms are filled with unqualified or unqualified long term substitutes. In most cases schools serving low income families have higher rates of classrooms filled with uncertified, insufficiently qualified teachers than schools serving high income families. This is not a level playing field on which to "compete" for the "prize" of funding supplements which, however the distribution of scores shake out in any particular year, will only go to the top 10% and will always exclude 90%.

I don't often agree with David Safier, but I do agree with him on this point: this is BULLSHIT education policy, so certifiably insane when looked at from the perspective of anyone who knows education and the conditions in our public schools that you wonder if we have finally fallen off the edge of the known world, or down the rabbit hole with Alice into some weird pseudo-reality. Are we characters in a bizarre farce someone is writing? It would seem so. (And we wonder why our children are attracted to literature like the "Hunger Games" series. It's because it's a heightened version of the reality they are actually living out in the institutions most of them utilize for their "education": a sick Darwinian rigged game of survival of the fittest.)

An aside to David Safier: I think you probably know, David, that part of the perception that drives the people behind "independent schools," schools which operate privately and separately from the public district and charter system is that they don't want to be forced to adopt government policies about how to educate their students and they don't want to utilize government-mandated standardized testing. They feel that the structure of public schooling, where policy is determined by politicians and not by professionals in the field of education, ends up forcing inhumane policies on students and insupportable conditions on teachers. When it comes to education in Arizona, it is clear that they are right, and this is one reason among many why we cannot eliminate education choice policies before we gain enough control of the public district system that we can prevent "Hunger Games" structures like this from being forced on our schools. Given what Arizona is and has been for the past couple of decades, locking kids into a system that has been allowed to deteriorate to this extent is not ethical, and, contra the overly simplistic, self-serving, and reductive Democratic party agenda, increasing funding will not by itself solve all the problems a malfunctioning public system has developed during the past 20 years of misguided education policy in this state.

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Posted by This is "Hunger Games" education policy. on 01/18/2017 at 11:34 AM

Re: “Laughing Stock: Safe Space for Dirty Comedy

Ah, the snowflakes might melt. If you don't like it walk out. Women of course never objectify men. Haha.

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Posted by bslap on 01/18/2017 at 10:29 AM

Re: “The Fake News Frenzy

The News might not be literally fake, but the media has had a vendetta against Mr. Trump and the people he represents.
For years the media establishment has supported mass immigration, globalization at expense of the working class, LGBQTXYZ-ism and other causes that most Americans really don't support while for the most part denigrating most traditional values of the working class.
So while the "fake news" charges are hyperbole (hyperbole from Mr. Trump???) the political fight of the middle and working classes against the media establishment has valid reasons behind it.

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Posted by bslap on 01/18/2017 at 9:58 AM

Re: “A Dollar a Day, and Other Observations About Ducey's Education Funding Proposal

Great, more potholes! Thanks for literally driving the state into the ditch Mr. Ducey!

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Posted by bslap on 01/18/2017 at 9:53 AM

Re: “A Dollar a Day, and Other Observations About Ducey's Education Funding Proposal

The thing is, he is still robbing Peter (Hurf, road funds) to pay Paul (schools). On top of that, a legislator is finally proposing added tax to fix roads (http://tucson.com/news/local/lawmaker-is-seeking--cent-hike-in-arizona-s-gas/article_d0745c84-d084-5000-a4eb-b3d043e7eace.html). But until the state gets back to honoring its line item funding/expense I don't see how any of this does any good. Voters specifically voted for school tax money which went elsewhere (remember the $300M?) and other things I have probably forgotten, but Ducey is not managing that way and legislators seem to follow him at this point.

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Posted by MaryE2 on 01/18/2017 at 9:03 AM

Re: “Cinema Clips: Paterson

Wrong Cinaste.

This review may be somewhat condensed, but it gets the point across, especially to those of us who are fans of Jim Jarmusch. If you want a long, drawn out review, search the internet. I can't imagine there isn't one there for you.

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Posted by AZ/DC! on 01/18/2017 at 8:01 AM

Re: “The Fake News Frenzy

Ok, here's how it works folks:

If the news you read slanders conservatives but favors libtards, it is Fake News.

If the news you read slanders libtards but favors conservatives, that's the Real Deal.

Don't you pinko liberal commies understand anything?

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Posted by What, Again on 01/18/2017 at 7:53 AM

Re: “The Fake News Frenzy

Kenneth Groves - "Since the media is owned over 90% by six far right wing republican companies..."

Well there's some ignorance and Fake News for ya'. 1) Those are public companies, 2) All with the exception of News Corp have leftists as their CEO's and Boards.

You ignorantly seem to think that wealthy equals Republican yet the 8 richest are all lefties as is most of the evil Wall Street.

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/01/16/eight-richest-people/

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Posted by What, Again on 01/18/2017 at 7:44 AM

Re: “A Dollar a Day, and Other Observations About Ducey's Education Funding Proposal

But we are robbing Peter to pay Paul. The Highway Trust Fund was established as a "trust fund" to prevent raids like this. Taking money from the already under-funded highway system will just assure continued deterioration of our State highways, especially the rural parts of the State. While I strongly support our public schools and have personally given tens of thousands of dollars to public school classrooms through www.adoptaclassroom.org, I cannot support robbing our road money. Remember, the annual fiscal crisis at the legislature has been brought on by over two decades of irresponsible tax cuts by a succession of administrations. Time to reverse course, methinks.

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Posted by Michael S. Ellegood on 01/18/2017 at 7:19 AM

Re: “Cinema Clips: Paterson

Golly.

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Posted by Bob Grimm on 01/18/2017 at 6:42 AM

Re: “A Dollar a Day, and Other Observations About Ducey's Education Funding Proposal

You failed to acknowledge that there will be a greater funding weight for low income/high performing schools. There is a path for increased funding and it's up to the school leaders to make the choices to expand, replicate or improve. The majority of the low income/high performing schools are in Southern Arizona.

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Posted by Carlos Ruiz on 01/18/2017 at 5:58 AM

Re: “The Fake News Frenzy

Oh, and to the statement that we are not a democracy. Only in the minds of right wingers who do not want one. In truth we are a constitutional democratic republic. We the people elect representatives in a direct democratic vote. . . .https://www.reference.com/government-polit…

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Posted by Kenneth Groves on 01/18/2017 at 5:28 AM

Re: “The Fake News Frenzy

Since the media is owned over 90% by six far right wing republican companies I'm always amazed by those who call the media "so liberal it's literally the democratic party". This is what a conservative business site says. Oh yeah, a lot of the rest is owned by Mitt Romney (ClearChannel) . . http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-cor…

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Posted by Kenneth Groves on 01/18/2017 at 5:21 AM

Re: “Cinema Clips: Paterson

This is a skimpy, rushed and superficial review which lacks any form of criticism, analysis and depth. There's no attempt to analyze Paterson's character or his motivation for writing poetry. There's no description of the relationship between Paterson and Laura, nor is there any mention of the culmination of events, over an entire week, that explore and define Paterson's psyche. A devastating loss occurs towards the end of the film, and a beautifully filmed redemption is ultimately realized. Yet this Grimm review stolidly sticks to cliche, formula and ultimately, a contempt of the viewer's intelligence.

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Posted by Cineaste on 01/18/2017 at 3:17 AM

Re: “The Fake News Frenzy

I must really have mental illness. I keep responding to my own messages and I keep referencing a rock group that isn't even here. It was bound to happen, I was already way off my rocker.

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Posted by What, Again on 01/17/2017 at 8:23 PM

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